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What do we think Minsons role with be this year? Im thinking 60-40 ruck split with Nicnat and stints up forward.
Need to get the most out of him, he's a seasoned veteran.
Need to get the most out of him, he's a seasoned veteran.
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I thought we picked up Jonathon Giles not Will Minson as our back up to the back up ruck list clogger?
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ps. not sure if serious ?
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Some knob was saying we should give up our first rounder for minson before the trade period . Then argued for about 10 pages whilst people took the piss .
If we are playing Darling at CHF in 2016, then we haven't gone forward at all.
Playing McGovern anywhere other than CHF predominantly is not utilising our list properly.
Play Lycett as 7th Defender whilst Nic Nat rucks, that way you maintain intercept mark percentage, McGovern gives us a mobile option up forward and we rest our runners more efficiently on the bench.
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Lycett as a loose defender reminds me of that sceen in Happy Gilmore when the big fella chases down Shooter for stealing the gold jacket.
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hahaha we are talking about Will Minson right ? wow
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Well... That definitely is BS.
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Can't see Lycett playing defence this year except when dropping back as ruck. He is a pretty capable forward, has a strong contested mark and knows how to finish. If his 2015 wasn't interrupted by injury I think he would have delivered similar output to Sinclair on the scoreboard. I'd be surprised if that isn't one of the coaches big focusses with him in pre-season. This shouldn't impact us playing 3 other talls (JK + Darling + one other).
Interestingly Lycett's largest goal tally was 4 in Rd 20 2014 against the Pies where we played JK, Darling, Gov and him all in the forward line. Darling also kicked 4, JK 3, NN 2 and Gov none (but he was still in the action). EMac, Brown and Schoey all played in defence. We smashed 'em btw. So long as Swan or Cloke don't stand on the mark this season our forwards should be pretty accurate again in front of goals.
Still like Gov & Schoey > Brown in defence atm although not writing Brown off completely until I see him play in NAB. Gov as intercept marker was a big reason we were runners up imo.
Interestingly Lycett's largest goal tally was 4 in Rd 20 2014 against the Pies where we played JK, Darling, Gov and him all in the forward line. Darling also kicked 4, JK 3, NN 2 and Gov none (but he was still in the action). EMac, Brown and Schoey all played in defence. We smashed 'em btw. So long as Swan or Cloke don't stand on the mark this season our forwards should be pretty accurate again in front of goals.
Still like Gov & Schoey > Brown in defence atm although not writing Brown off completely until I see him play in NAB. Gov as intercept marker was a big reason we were runners up imo.
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Simmo has already said that Gov is likely to play most of his time in the backline and the ruck and only going forward when needed, this then implies that Darling will play a full time role at CHF.
You will not see Lycett floating in the backline for the intercept, thats why Gov is there. When fit Darling gives us plenty of mobility up there and is a very formidable forward.
Original much...
Strange call granted, but as we really didn't recruit a CHF the only legitimate option is McGovern, am happy to throw the team around to cater for Gov to find himself there as Emac will fill most of the void left and what do we have to lose by Having Lycett who is a solid contested mark resting as 7th defender knowing he is not required to mind an opponent...
Would rather that than McGovern copping knees to his hip from larger opposition ruckmen at centre bounces.
you make it seem as if intercept marking is an easy thing to do and that anyone can do. Currently theirs only few players in the comp that can do it and gov is miles ahead of anyone at the Eagles. IMO opinion an elite intercept marking defender worths more than an elite lock down defender. Till Barrass shows that his ready to come into the side as an intercept defender, Gov should remain back.
I don't know why people think Mcgovern is a CHF. If you want to look at attributes and what they are actually good at Mcgovern is a hell of a lot more like a full forward than a CHF. If kennedy didn't have his degenerative knee condition i would be playing him at CHF (his actual best role), with mcgovern at FF and darling off the flank or out of a pocket.
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If they want McGovern down back and don't want Darling at CHF then why not give Lamb a try there?
It would create the same issue that we have when playing Darling there. Not tall enough when matched up against a teams 2nd best defender. Lamb, like Darling will be a much better player when getting the 3rd or 4th best defender.
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Not sure why Lamb would get the gig ahead of McInnes?
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He's a similar height to Roughead and Gunston. How tall do you think a CHF needs to be?
I think McInnes deserves a look in also. It's just who out of he and Lamb give a better balance for the team overall. McInnes is taller, more experienced and can ruck as well. Lamb is more mobile, has a big tank, and could be versatile playing elsewhere if we need. I like Lamb myself because I think he has far more potential than Fraser but I'd still be fine with McInnes getting a shot if it means Gov could stay down back.
Roughead is a much better contested mark than Darling and in the GF Gunston played 3rd fiddle to Roughead and Schoenmakers.
Thats the sort of lineup we need
Roughead - Kennedy
Schoenmakers - Gov
Gunston - Darling
Breust - Lecras
Rioli - Hill
Puopolo - Cripps
Ruck - Naitanui
Ruck - Hale
Bench - McEvoy
Bench - Lycett
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I was meaning Lamb (~193cm) was a similar size not Darling btw. But Darling not being a good contested mark is also not true imo. He averaged the same number of contested marks that Gov did last year (1.4/game). And both were higher than Gunston (1.2/game) and Roughead & Schoenmakers (0.7/game). Kennedy (1.6/game). Both teams don't seem to rely too much on contested marking up forward though as both want effective disposal inside 50 to strong leading targets. The whole kick it up and use a bash and crash forward with crumbers isn't our game style nor theirs imo. I see it like this (not by exact position and may not have latest heights):
Schoenmakers (195cm) - Kennedy (196cm)
Roughead (193cm) - Lamb (193cm) or McInnes (197cm) or Gov (196cm)
Gunston (193cm) - Darling (191cm)
Breust (184cm) - Hill (185cm)
Shiels (183cm) - LeCras (183cm)
Rioli (177cm) - Cripps (183cm)
Puopolo (173cm) - Jetta (181cm) or Yeo (190cm)
McEvoy (200cm) - Natanui (201cm)
Ceglar (204cm) - Lycett (203cm)
Anyone??
If I thought anyone could intercept mark I would have put Masten as 7th defender not a 203cm ruckman with good pace and and a solid contested marking game....
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