List Mgmt. 2017 Trade/Draft/FA SuperMegaUltra Thread - Post Trade-Period Edition

[former lurker]

Allen was on 6pr last night. Extremely impressive young man.

 

[Patron]

I'm trying to get used to the idea, but i just can't shake the feeling that WCE will balls up the picking of Allen completely.

He LOOKS and plays like a tall forward. His skills are very good i've noticed, both by hand and foot, but there really isn't anything about the way he plays to suggest he could possibly become a midfielder at AFL level. Not explosive or mobile enough, nothing to suggest he'd be good in traffic. He lumbers around like all talls do.

So where does that leave us? We'd be recruiting him to likely end up being a 3rd banana to Darling and Kennedy. Our forward line would have to have a bit of a shake up to accommodate a 3rd tall forward. If that's the case Waterman and M.Allen might as well pack their bags right now like Lamb because they won't be getting many opportunities.

This is my line of thinking with Allen. I actually rate him quite highly and wouldn’t be devastated if we got him at 13 because I think he will become a very good third tall type. I just don’t think he’s a midfielder and any expectation he becomes one is a overly optimistic/risky.


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[bl4ke]

I'm hearing Tim Kelly is in the mix for pick 23 if West Coast don't take him at 21, so you might be right.

- Knightmare

 

[Patron]

Bishop thinks we are heavily into Balta for a pick in the 20's.

For a pick in the 20s I would love balta. Not sure he will be there though.


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[JoshWoodenSpoon]

Not explosive or mobile enough, nothing to suggest he'd be good in traffic. He lumbers around like all talls do.

I appreciate one must judge on in-game exhibitions, but 8.27s in the agility test (eighth highest) really doesn't fit with what you are saying here.

 

[Patron]

I appreciate one must judge on in-game exhibitions, but 8.27s in the agility test (eighth highest) really doesn't fit with what you are saying here.

And his 20m sprint time?


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[amazingjoshy]

I'm hearing Tim Kelly is in the mix for pick 23 if West Coast don't take him at 21, so you might be right.

- Knightmare

And if not North at 23, the Cats at 22 or 24 imo would be a massive chance to take him too I'd reckon. He's well worth using 21on imo

 

[JoshWoodenSpoon]

And his 20m sprint time?

I don't have access to that (not top 10). You could go ask someone like Bishop if they'd pass on that specific result to you, I'd be interested to know it also.

 

[Jiggyman]

I don't have access to that (not top 10). You could go ask someone like Bishop if they'd pass on that specific result to you, I'd be interested to know it also.

Why is anyone expecting Allen to be explosive? He's a smooth mover; size, agility, endurance, overhead strength and skills are the assets I feel he could bring IF he did make a midfield transition.

 

[JoshWoodenSpoon]

Why is anyone expecting Allen to be explosive? He's a smooth mover; size, agility, endurance, overhead strength and skills are the assets I feel he could bring IF he did make a midfield transition.

I agree completely.

 

[Suma Magic]

Allen was top 6 for running verticale jump. So combined with his long arms he would play as a 194cm player IMO.

The inside footy draft magazine rated his speed as 3.5/5. Combined with his top 10 agility result I think it's safe to conclude that he is above average speed.

 

[Galileo9]

Remember when we were obsessed with McGoverns height....


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[Avalor]

Why is anyone expecting Allen to be explosive? He's a smooth mover; size, agility, endurance, overhead strength and skills are the assets I feel he could bring IF he did make a midfield transition.

A Bont type then ... Perfect.

 

[JoshWoodenSpoon]

The inside footy draft magazine rated his speed as 3.5/5. Combined with his top 10 agility result I think it's safe to conclude that he is above average speed.

Do you have this magazine? I would love to know what other players are placed around 3.5/5.

 

[liam123]

For a pick in the 20s I would love balta. Not sure he will be there though.


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Why? I wouldn't take him at 37 personally.

 

[Suma Magic]

JoshWoodenSpoon

The highly rated prospects who are 3.5

Ballard
Ballenden
Balta
Brander
Cerra
Clark
LDU
D. Fogarty
Garner
Hayes
Ling
Naughton
Worpel

So not sure how accurate this is. But those are some ratings FWIW.

 

[JoshWoodenSpoon]

The highly rated prospects who are 3.5

Ballard
Ballenden
Balta
Brander
Cerra
Clark
LDU
D. Fogarty
Garner
Hayes
Ling
Naughton
Worpel

So not sure how accurate this is. But those are some ratings FWIW.

Hahahahaha. Well, thanks.

 

[Chris_6678]

The highly rated prospects who are 3.5

Ballard
Ballenden
Balta
Brander
Cerra
Clark
LDU
D. Fogarty
Garner
Hayes
Ling
Naughton
Suma Magic
Worpel

So not sure how accurate this is. But those are some ratings FWIW.

 

[Suma Magic]

The highly rated prospects who are 3.5

Ballard
Ballenden
Balta
Brander
Cerra
Clark
LDU
D. Fogarty
Garner
Hayes
Ling
Naughton
Suma Magic
Worpel

So not sure how accurate this is. But those are some ratings FWIW.

I can't believe I didn't scrape in for a 4.

 

[LeCrassic]

Any one know anything about Ian Hill?
Haven't seen his name been thrown around but seems to have skill and plenty of pace, but that's just from one YouTube vid.

 

[Chris_6678]

Any one know anything about Ian Hill?
Haven't seen his name been thrown around but seems to have skill and plenty of pace, but that's just from one YouTube vid.

Will be a gun...but not in this years draft.

 

[JoshWoodenSpoon]

And his 20m sprint time?


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Why is anyone expecting Allen to be explosive? He's a smooth mover; size, agility, endurance, overhead strength and skills are the assets I feel he could bring IF he did make a midfield transition.

Allen was top 6 for running verticale jump. So combined with his long arms he would play as a 194cm player IMO.

The inside footy draft magazine rated his speed as 3.5/5. Combined with his top 10 agility result I think it's safe to conclude that he is above average speed.

The highly rated prospects who are 3.5

Ballard
Ballenden
Balta
Brander
Cerra
Clark
LDU
D. Fogarty
Garner
Hayes
Ling
Naughton
Suma Magic
Worpel

So not sure how accurate this is. But those are some ratings FWIW.

Oscar Allen's 20m sprint time at the national combine:
3.07 seconds.

 

[LeCrassic]

Will be a gun...but not in this years draft.

Aahhhh, that makes sense, cheers

 

[Suma Magic]

Oscar Allen's 20m sprint time at the national combine:
3.07 seconds.

Fairly slow? I'm not sure what average is.

 

[JoshWoodenSpoon]

Fairly slow? I'm not sure what average is.

Neither, but the difference between the speediest (Petruccelle) and the 10th speediest (Shipley) doubled is where we find Allen.