List Mgmt. 2017 Trade/Draft/FA SuperMegaUltra Thread - Post Trade-Period Edition

[donpyke92]

Just throwing it out there....Half back flank would have to be the easiest position to play if you're not a big fella/key position.
Young players get put there to learn their chops and aged midfielders go there because of their experience reading the play.
Of course there are exceptions.
Personally, in the upcoming draft, would like a half forward /KPF in junior ranks that shows enough at that age to play midfield rather than another HBF trying to be converted to a midfielder. Apologies to Duggan, reckon we've got a diamond there, just needs some polish. (that's 'polish' not 'Polish')

 

[dajesmac]

When the **** is the draft machine coming out?

 

[jesterwester]

If we choose Allen at 13 I will be ok, he's got a good head on his shoulders and a drive to succeed. I'd prefer him at 21, though.

Something that does strike me about Constable & Clark is that they look more suited off the HBF than being genuine midfielders. Are they any more capable of making the transition as Allen would be as a midfielder?

If we decide it is between those three and they all are capable of playing midfield- then I think they start with the midfielders from day 1.

Having said that, if we managed to snare 3 of worpel, bailey, starcevich, Kelly or petruccelli with our 2nd round picks then I think taking a tall in Allen or Brander may turn out to be a good call.

 

[Wangchung82]

Playing devil's advocate for a second - isn't one of the reasons that our midfield is so devoid of top line talent is that we almost exclusively play with a straight bat and don't take risks?

We have drafted many "pure" midfielders with great Colts/TAC/U18 pedigrees in the past 10 years and only Shuey has approached what you would might call A grade.

While you can point out Darling as an example of a failed attempt (if there ever was an attempt) to create a midfielder out of a player from a different position, you can also point to the likes of Fyfe, Dangerfield and Bontempelli as success stories. It's also worth pointing out that Darling wasn't (outwardly at least) drafted as a midfielder.

It's an oversimplification, but when we're picking midfielders outside the top handful of picks you tend to have three options:
1) Accomplished midfielders who lack outstanding traits like athleticism or size.
2) Players with outstanding traits who don't have much midfield experience.
3) Players with midfield experience and outstanding traits but who have issues with injuries, attitude or production.

I think we've had a habit of picking players from that first group and what we've been left with is a bunch of good-but-not-great midfielders. Michael Brauns rather than Chris Judds.

Taking safe pick after safe pick and expecting to unearth a gun midfielder doesn't make sense, especially when we're picking players that lack the traits that are setting the best midfielders in the competition apart.

I want us to draft players who have the traits to become great midfielders, even if they question marks about their position or about injuries. I don't really care which particular player it is, because ultimately the recruiting team will have seen much more of the player and know a lot more about them (What is their attitude like? What do their coaches say? Are they a flight risk?) than we ever could. So I don't care if we take Allen or Bonar or Clark, I just want us to take the punt on someone who could be great even if they might end up being shit.

I 100% agree.
Having said that, apart from this years draft, I personally think Venables could be anything!!!!
I said when Shuey came on board that he was a gun! Since that time I have only been excited about Duggan (still think he can make it)
Watched Venables in WAFL. Early days. But very imprrsssed

 

[Lyyynnnchy]

If we choose Allen at 13 I will be ok, he's got a good head on his shoulders and a drive to succeed. I'd prefer him at 21, though.

Something that does strike me about Constable & Clark is that they look more suited off the HBF than being genuine midfielders. Are they any more capable of making the transition as Allen would be as a midfielder?

If we decide it is between those three and they all are capable of playing midfield- then I think they start with the midfielders from day 1.

Having said that, if we managed to snare 3 of worpel, bailey, starcevich, Kelly or petruccelli with our 2nd round picks then I think taking a tall in Allen or Brander may turn out to be a good call.

I dont know why people keep saying this. Constable has played a lot of games through the middle for years and Clarke has played plenty of football through the middle.

 

[Yippy Yi Yeo]

If we choose Allen at 13 I will be ok, he's got a good head on his shoulders and a drive to succeed. I'd prefer him at 21, though.

Something that does strike me about Constable & Clark is that they look more suited off the HBF than being genuine midfielders. Are they any more capable of making the transition as Allen would be as a midfielder?

If we decide it is between those three and they all are capable of playing midfield- then I think they start with the midfielders from day 1.

Having said that, if we managed to snare 3 of worpel, bailey, starcevich, Kelly or petruccelli with our 2nd round picks then I think taking a tall in Allen or Brander may turn out to be a good call.

Clark played midfield all year this year, averaged 26 disposals too.

 

[twce13]

Something about Allen just screams future star for me. I'd be happy if we take him at 13.

 

[Pulsedriver]

I need help with my top ten
In no particular order:
1. Katheryn winnick
2. Olivia munn
3. Monica belucci
4. Eva mendes
5. Jessica alba
6. Adriana Lima
7. Emily ratzjkowski
8. Rita ora
9. Rhianna
10. Megan Fox

To be top 10, she can't have herpagonasyphilaids. So that would cut that list in half, at least, given how much they get passed around between the entertainment industry big-wigs and social scene.

 

[Pulsedriver]

Too much PEM (Performance enhancing makeup)

But but but... it's not actually make-up, it's fake-up.

 

[Pulsedriver]

Where is Sophie Monk tipped to go?

Perma-ban for you for mentioning someone who's post-wall.

 

[Pulsedriver]

Picking up CEY would have a bit of a Dick smell to it

It'd only smell like Dick due to Dark Sharks serving up 500 orgasmic Masto's. CEY and Masten on the same team? Dark Sharks will be unstoppable - the Voltron of the Eagles board.

 

[FKASC]

Do we though? Butler and Wellingham are gone, Hurn's probably got two or three years left at most, and people want Duggan and Yeo put into the midfield.

Some people want it but I think there's enough evidence to show that Yeo should stay in the backline. And not sure if Duggan will make it as a mid.

But even if you do assume Duggan and Yeo become full time mids: Sheppard, Cole, Watson, Rotham and Nelson is still more than the three forwards you mentioned.

I'm not necessarily saying Allen is a better player or pick than Clark, but generally speaking there's merit in the argument that picking a forward with midfield aspirations is a safer risk, given the make up of our squad, than it would be to pick another half back with midfield aspirations.

 

[mentalgrind]

I'd be happy to back in any of these guys mentioned at our first pick to be a decent player but the one I really want is Brayshaw. Just looks to be so measured in everything he does and the play seems to open up in slow motion around him.

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[eagles rule]

Something about Allen just screams future star for me. I'd be happy if we take him at 13.

That’s because he looks so raw and yet is taking apart the best defenders of his age bracket ..


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[Patron]

I really do want Allen but I think he's a chance at getting to 21 which would be the dream as we could get a good forward and midfielder. We need Richmond to grab Naish before 21. Those whining about Clark being a hbf are missing the point he's been a midfielder all year. We will be lucky if he's available.


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[Dark Sharks]

Key forward, 3rd tall, plays forward or back..... It's all i keep reading. Take a look at his bio, there's absolutely nothing mentioned about midfield.

Does anyone OTHER than Oscar Allen himself think he can play midfield?

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-11-03/tomorrows-heroes-workhorse-forward-rises-to-challenge



This pick worries me. Don't think i'm going to go to work today.

 

[FKASC]

Getting a bit worried about this draft now. We still have such bad midfield depth and the decision to swap picks with GC next year is making me nervous.

Don't want to become the next NM

 

[Boohemian]

Lindsay Thomas delisted. Get on board!

 

[eagles rule]

Port Power have signed up Trent McKenzie now if he gets a good injury run he will be a weapon in the backline..


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[Monocle]

Lindsay Thomas delisted. Get on board!

Torn on the idea TBH........ but Aether it does have some very sound merit.

Part of me ( the brain ) knows he would be a very good fit given our list deficiencies.

Part of me ( the heart ) would find it extremely difficult to barrack for such a ******* campaigner , he is one of my most despised and disliked player in the AFL.... a dead set W. Oh if you wondering he speaks highly of me too.

Trouble is that he is so undisciplined you cant count on him staying away from the match review committee.

 

[DanWCE]

Picking up CEY would have a bit of a Dick smell to it

The tension against the possibility of taking Allen has triggered this in me. I dunno, maybe I'm a dick.

Ahh so that's where the smell is coming from!

 

[archiemoses]

Not sure if trolling but the fact there are people here even entertaining the idea of Lindsay Thomas scares me

 

[Obeanie1]

If we choose Allen at 13 I will be ok, he's got a good head on his shoulders and a drive to succeed. I'd prefer him at 21, though.

Something that does strike me about Constable & Clark is that they look more suited off the HBF than being genuine midfielders. Are they any more capable of making the transition as Allen would be as a midfielder?

If we decide it is between those three and they all are capable of playing midfield- then I think they start with the midfielders from day 1.

Having said that, if we managed to snare 3 of worpel, bailey, starcevich, Kelly or petruccelli with our 2nd round picks then I think taking a tall in Allen or Brander may turn out to be a good call.

I think you've nailed what we will do.

Unless a stand out mid slides like a Higgins or Fogarty then we will pick the best tall with 13 and use 4 second round picks on mids.

 

[new breed]

Not sure if trolling but the fact there are people here even entertaining the idea of Lindsay Thomas scares me

Lindsay Thomas is going to Port Adelaide most likely so not us .

 

[Monocle]

Lindsay Thomas is going to Port Adelaide most likely so not us .

Shit playing Port next season will be like playing the combined side.