List Mgmt. 2018 St Kilda Trade Thread Part 2

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Pick 4 for seedsman, 7 and 13?
The only thing that worries me - if you believe the media;

Seedsman, Lycett and Hanmers all 27+. Does bring in leadership, but we’d want to make sure the next wave are seriously developed right.
 

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Tom Morris just reported on Fox Footy that Saints are into Paul Seedsman who is out of contract with Adelaide.

Crows have offered him a 3 year deal but he wants 4 years.

Morris said Saints believe he is the sort of player they need: experienced, quick and skilful.

Morris also suggested that Seedsman could be ‘trade bait’ to help Adelaide move up the draft order to get an early 1st RDP so they can draft Lukosius.
Seedsman is not skillfull, he’s going to fit in well ...hits the occasional target when he feels like it.

Can’t we have a board spill before we commit to any more hacks and waste our pick. We need to get the broom out now. Ricoh is doing a Mick Malthouse and trashing the place before they sack him.
 
Armo is realistically list clogging ....
Stevens is retired now
Ok if we get hanneberry for nothing I'm not opposed we will be letting a few senior players go in the next year or two plus we already iirc have plenty of space in the cap. Let's be realistic though we are going to lose a first round or a second round pick, both could be better used on midfielders

Steven's probably has some time left in the midfield but even if you right he could be an effective forward for a few more years
 
Tom Morris just reported on Fox Footy that Saints are into Paul Seedsman who is out of contract with Adelaide.

Crows have offered him a 3 year deal but he wants 4 years.

Morris said Saints believe he is the sort of player they need: experienced, quick and skilful.

Morris also suggested that Seedsman could be ‘trade bait’ to help Adelaide move up the draft order to get an early 1st RDP so they can draft Lukosius.

Well at least he suits what we need. Quick and an elite kick.
 
Seedsman is not skillfull, he’s going to fit in well ...hits the occasional target when he feels like it.

Can’t we have a board spill before we commit to any more hacks and waste our pick. We need to get the broom out now. Ricoh is doing a Mick Malthouse and trashing the place before they sack him.

I must be watching a different Seedsman Gringo? He takes some difficult options but to me looks like an amazing user by foot.
 

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The only thing that worries me - if you believe the media;

Seedsman, Lycett and Hanmers all 27+. Does bring in leadership, but we’d want to make sure the next wave are seriously developed right.

Depends what you give up.

I honestly don't see how the young "leaders" will do any different to this year. They either got it or the ain't got it.

Lycett could be a 5 to 8 year player. Hanners, depends on his body. Seedsman is good for at least another 5?

Throws the age demographic back into balance.

Rather Seedsman over Hall for example.

Worst we could do is nothing and have another year like this one.
 
No, he is quick and a fantastic kick. Happy to be corrected? Probably similar to Polec. Bit injury prone too.

Seedsman’s kicking has improved out of sight over the past 2 seasons... before that he was an inconsistent kick.

Great speed, run & carry. Not a bad option depending on the price.

Swap for Dunstan sounds about right


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With so many free agents coming in 2019 they would have to move on the guys that will be moving - they have too

we have to get in there and find what we need

GWS Players Out of Contract in 2019 GWS Player Contracts

Name Years Service Status
Adam Tomlinson 8 Restricted Free Agent
Brent Daniels 2 Non-Free Agent
Brett Deledio 3 Non-Free Agent
Daniel Lloyd 4 Non-Free Agent
Dylan Shiel 8 Restricted Free Agent
Harrison Himmelberg 4 Non-Free Agent
Jacob Hopper 4 Non-Free Agent
Joshua Kelly 6 Non-Free Agent
Matthew Buntine 8 Restricted Free Agent
Matthew De Boer 3 Non-Free Agent
Matthew Flynn 4 Non-Free Agent
Nick Haynes 8 Restricted Free Agent
Rory Lobb 6 Non-Free Agent
Sam Taylor 2 Non-Free Agent
Stephen Coniglio 8 Restricted Free Agent
 
With so many free agents coming in 2019 they would have to move on the guys that will be moving - they have too

we have to get in there and find what we need

GWS Players Out of Contract in 2019 GWS Player Contracts

Name Years Service Status
Adam Tomlinson 8 Restricted Free Agent
Brent Daniels 2 Non-Free Agent
Brett Deledio 3 Non-Free Agent
Daniel Lloyd 4 Non-Free Agent
Dylan Shiel 8 Restricted Free Agent
Harrison Himmelberg 4 Non-Free Agent
Jacob Hopper 4 Non-Free Agent
Joshua Kelly 6 Non-Free Agent
Matthew Buntine 8 Restricted Free Agent
Matthew De Boer 3 Non-Free Agent
Matthew Flynn 4 Non-Free Agent
Nick Haynes 8 Restricted Free Agent
Rory Lobb 6 Non-Free Agent
Sam Taylor 2 Non-Free Agent
Stephen Coniglio 8 Restricted Free Agent

expect WCE to go hard at Lobb and jump in front of Freo who are also chasing him hard
 
Adelaide received Seedsman and gave up pick No.32; Collingwood drafted him with pick 76

thats what adelaide paid for seedsman when he was 23 and approaching his prime mature window

so any idea that it would cost us a first rounder is utter madness especially for a bloke out of contract and hardly sought after. he has similar value to koby when we took him i reckon. its a cheap money ball pick up. so another money ball player sent to them, or a third round selection which would be early given our ladder position

lets be honest adelaide would take that
 
something is up with this sydney hanneberry thing. sydney must be into someone up to their eye balls and want to restructure their cap to support that.

even weirder is how much john longmuire has been blind sided by this whole thing, even though, lethers called tom harley to get approval to speak to hanners.
 
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