List Mgmt. 2018 St Kilda Trade Thread Part 2

[Ceanag]

https://www.3aw.com.au/caroline-wilson-says-daniel-hannebery-will-be-at-st-kilda-next-year/

Well if Caro says so, we may as well start the 'Welcome to the Saints, Dan Hannebery" thread now ...

 

[Diehard Saint]

This system is screwed because the afl only introduced parts of it, the top clubs and the AFLPA love it so don’t hold your breath waiting for changes.

If the afl even try to restrict the clubs the free agents choose to go to, the AFLPA will be crying restraint of trade faster than you could blink.

They’ve screwed it up to the detriment of the lower standing clubs but the genie is out the bottle, very hard to get it back in.

 

[Longmembrey]

Hickey and Dunstan for Seedsman...

That would be overs from us I think - but would still consider it

 

[Keg on legs]

Please....please..... PLEASE Saints, don't give our first rounder up.

No

Matter

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*Go on then you big tease...try to tempt me.....

 

[StCicatriz]

Hickey and Dunstan for Seedsman...

massive massive overs. adelaide paid **** all to begin with to get him

 

[StCicatriz]

Please....please..... PLEASE Saints, don't give our first rounder up.

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Matter

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*Go on then you big tease...try to tempt me.....

i was told 100% that any deal for hanneberry wont involve this years pick. we have to convince him first, once we've done that we can convince sydney to release him

but i think there's something else brewing for sydney which means he could come a bit cheaper pick wise as they will need to move him to get the other side of the deal done

having said that i was also told that summers would be interviewed by mark robinson and he'd talk about the coach review/staying on and going out on top.

 

[Diehard Saint]

Richmond will have to let go of a few to afford Lynch.

I'd prefer we throw a good contract at Houli rather than Goddard. Fills a need with his run and carry, still playing good footy and is a great character.

I like it. Thought Houli should have been Norm Smith actually.

 

[gringo2011]

Yes
As long as we don’t give 7 or 13 to the swans

You know it wouldn’t be both 7 and 13 along with Seedsman though. We will trade 4 and end up with Seedsman and Hanners and it will be a travesty.

I must be watching a different Seedsman Gringo? He takes some difficult options but to me looks like an amazing user by foot.

I always think of him as a shit kick. He was at the Pies.

 

[Longmembrey]

massive massive overs. adelaide paid **** all to begin with to get him

I agree it is overs, but what has his previous trade cost got to do with anything? It is irrelevant

 

[gringo2011]

Depends what you give up.

I honestly don't see how the young "leaders" will do any different to this year. They either got it or the ain't got it.

Lycett could be a 5 to 8 year player. Hanners, depends on his body. Seedsman is good for at least another 5?

Throws the age demographic back into balance.

Rather Seedsman over Hall for example.

Worst we could do is nothing and have another year like this one.

We won't have a year like this one IMO. We had a terrible draw and injury run and players go backwards, that usually results in a step up a year later.

I don't mind chasing players and Seedsman is an okay player but if we give up access to a top 4 pick for any player that isn't an absolute superstar we are just killing our long term future for the sake of desperation. Getting two okay players for a top 4 pick is unforgivably irresponsible. This is the pick range clubs get Buddy, Dusty etc.

This has the potential to embarrass us for years. It's literally a really high risk low reward spin of the wheel.

 

[The Enemy Within]

Typical negativity about recruits, Tom Morris is spot on he has inside info, Seedsman is an elite kick & runner 2 requirements we need will be a straight swap of player.


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[BrutThough]

If the AFL is going to hand out priority picks, maybe we could convince them to give us one to trade for Hannebery.

 

[Yawkey way]

If the afl even try to restrict the clubs the free agents choose to go to, the AFLPA will be crying restraint of trade faster than you could blink.

They’ve screwed it up to the detriment of the lower standing clubs but the genie is out the bottle, very hard to get it back in.

There’s no need to do that and yes the AFLPA would have a fit.

The way to beat them and save the system is in things like cap spend, short term contracts, cut and recruit up to June 30.

Free agency qualifying should only be shortened as a trade off for clubs being able to trade contracted players to their team of choice.

As it is system is broken and any arbitrary changes the afl make are just as likely to make things worse. Can you imagine the impact on us for example if Carlton and GCS were granted extra picks after their first rounders.

 

[VDS66]

massive massive overs. adelaide paid **** all to begin with to get him

Doesn't matter what they paid... it's what he's worth today.

 

[Therealsaint]

We won't have a year like this one IMO. We had a terrible draw and injury run and players go backwards, that usually results in a step up a year later.

I don't mind chasing players and Seedsman is an okay player but if we give up access to a top 4 pick for any player that isn't an absolute superstar we are just killing our long term future for the sake of desperation. Getting two okay players for a top 4 pick is unforgivably irresponsible. This is the pick range clubs get Buddy, Dusty etc.

This has the potential to embarrass us for years. It's literally a really high risk low reward spin of the wheel.

That won't happen,the most i can see happening is a downgrade which would still not please me

 

[VDS66]

We won't have a year like this one IMO. We had a terrible draw and injury run and players go backwards, that usually results in a step up a year later.

I don't mind chasing players and Seedsman is an okay player but if we give up access to a top 4 pick for any player that isn't an absolute superstar we are just killing our long term future for the sake of desperation. Getting two okay players for a top 4 pick is unforgivably irresponsible. This is the pick range clubs get Buddy, Dusty etc.

This has the potential to embarrass us for years. It's literally a really high risk low reward spin of the wheel.

Surprising display of optimism on your part

 

[Yawkey way]

All this talk of Hannebery, lycett and Seedsman has me worried.

Firstly their not that good but surely the club should clear the decks before any decisions are made.

If richo and others are leaving then who’s driving the bus?

 

[can coach]

Mid year I would have thought Seedsmen was in all aus talk. Was most metres gained in the league and was kicking goals. Would be a good get got the right price .

 

[Yawkey way]

All this talk of Hannebery, lycett and Seedsman has me worried.

Firstly their not that good but surely the club should clear the decks before any decisions are made.

If richo and others are leaving then who’s driving the bus?

 

[Longmembrey]

You know it wouldn’t be both 7 and 13 along with Seedsman though. We will trade 4 and end up with Seedsman and Hanners and it will be a travesty.




I always think of him as a shit kick. He was at the Pies.

Gee I don't know cobber, I havent paid too much attention to his career, but I always thought he was a great kick.

 

[VDS66]

I agree it is overs, but what has his previous trade cost got to do with anything? It is irrelevant

Like saying a HK Monaro isn't worth $80k because it only cost $3500 when it was released.

Imagine if a club came to us and offered us pick 50 for Membrey.LOL.

 

[VDS66]

All this talk of Hannebery, lycett and Seedsman has me worried.

Firstly their not that good but surely the club should clear the decks before any decisions are made.

If richo and others are leaving then who’s driving the bus?

Mate you get worried every year around this time.

It's the list manager driving the bus, trying to fill gaps and improve our list.

 

[Diehard Saint]

All this talk of Hannebery, lycett and Seedsman has me worried.

Firstly their not that good but surely the club should clear the decks before any decisions are made.
If richo and others are leaving then who’s driving the bus?

This.

 

[Longmembrey]

Like saying a HK Monaro isn't worth $80k because it only cost $3500 when it was released.

Imagine if a club came to us and offered us pick 50 for Membrey.LOL.

Exactly. Or pick #1 for Paddy.

 

[VDS66]

Exactly. Or pick #1 for Paddy.

Polar opposite end of the example scale, but yes correct.