List Mgmt. 2018 St Kilda Trade Thread Part 4

[BrutThough]

Trade radio carrying on about how much we will pay to Hannebury. $500 000 PA apparently.

a) I'm sure there is a clause if he needs to retire before the contract is up.
b) who else are we going to pay it to. McCartin? Geary?

I thought we were paying him 800k.

500k is a bargain then!

 

[VDS66]

Just heard we are balls deep into Hanners. Can any of our itk confirm?

 

[plugger66]

As far as I know. Our position has been that chad has to advise port he wants to leave before we approach him. That’s where we stood prior to the first day of trade.

Yes leathlean said that. As far as I know on this we have and still have no interest in Wingard.

 

[St Neil]

The only variable there is wingard.

Port would be taking the risk of a two pick upgrade without knowing who will be available at 4.

On trade night it's a different scenario.

If their player is available @ 4 then 6 & 10 could come into play.

Unless they were confident of trading wingard then upgrading 4 & 10 for a top four pick or better.

I agree, but what if the Crows get their hands on pick 5 and both Adelaide clubs are desperate for the same player or for the first choice of the pool of elite SA lads.

It becomes a race to the moon. It seems both SA clubs are desperate to get their first pick before the other.

 

[bird_man]

If they want 4 I wouldn't be giving them 39 in that deal. Why would you? Pretty simple... if you want 4 pick 6 and 11 is the price. Take it or leave it

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That is a silly way to look at it.

Would you prefer 4 and 39 or 6 and 11?

 

[NotITK]

Pick 4 for Hanners

 

[plugger66]

I thought we were paying him 800k.

500k is a bargain then!

We were always paying 500K. Had this discussion with another poster who was complaining we didn't have enough money to spend on Shiel and it would bankrupt future trades.

 

[BrutThough]

We were always paying 500K. Had this discussion with another poster who was complaining we didn't have enough money to spend on Shiel and it would bankrupt future trades.

Is sydney paying part of his contract?

 

[VDS66]

That is a silly way to look at it.

Would you prefer 4 and 39 or 6 and 11?

No it's not.

It's every man for himself in this game.

You ask for best and compromise if you have to.

They will do exactly the same.

 

[plugger66]

Is sydney paying part of his contract?

That's what Dal said about a week ago.

 

[AFLOnline]

Wow It is pick 4 for hanners!!!!!!

**** me

 

[plugger66]

No it's not.

It's every man for himself in this game.

You ask for best and compromise if you have to.

They will do exactly the same.

But in the end you do whats best for the club. Ask Melbourne with Lever or even us with Carlisle. Or Richmond with Prestia. If you really like the idea of 6 and 11 you don't hold it for pick 39. If you don't like the idea just don't do it.

 

[St Neil]

Nah Stewart was as good as they come a class above then out of nowhere he needed to shop at the big men’s store and couldn’t get a kick.

Chads a good player who can be great on his day, I think he’s gone backwards since opposition sides started putting more work into him.

He definitely seems to have the hump with port at present though.

The tuddy thing at Collingwood was all about cash, they didn’t like playing their players much in those days I think it was him and len Thompson took a stand.

Not quite. It was also about principle. Tuddy and Len Thompson did make a stand on behalf of the other players after Collingwood paid a lot to recruit a blond full back from WA called Peter Eakins (number 10).

Eakins was paid much more than all the local lads but was popular with his teammates. As a matter of fact Eakins was a journo and was the first reporter on the scene when the West Gate Bridge collapsed in 1970.

Tuddy was stripped of the Captaincy and wanted to leave after 1970. His beef was with the club and the Committee. A swap with Ian Stewart was a real possibility at one stage.

Ironically Tuddy captained Victoria on the MCG in 1971 while not Captain of his own club.

 

[VDS66]

But in the end you do whats best for the club. Ask Melbourne with Lever or even us with Carlisle. Or Richmond with Prestia. If you really like the idea of 6 and 11 you don't hold it for pick 39. If you don't like the idea just don't do it.

No shit?

 

[VDS66]

Hanners for pick 4 @ $500k per year.

Bargain.

Well done Saints.

 

[soups1982]

Re: Hanners - i understand it to be something similar to the following:

We end up giving Pick 39 this year and a pick next year, but get 28 this year in return plus Hanners.

plenty of options, so we'll see what gets it done.

 

[plugger66]

No shit?

Well that pretty much what Birdman said so you are confusing me. He just used pick numbers instead of words.

 

[BilboJackins]

Not quite. It was also about principle. Tuddy and Len Thompson did make a stand on behalf of the other players after Collingwood paid a lot to recruit a blond full back from WA called Peter Eakins (number 10).

Eakins was paid much more than all the local lads but was popular with his teammates. As a matter of fact Eakins was a journo and was the first reporter on the scene when the West Gate Bridge collapsed in 1970.

Tuddy was stripped of the Captaincy and wanted to leave after 1970. His beef was with the club and the Committee. A swap with Ian Stewart was a real possibility at one stage.

Ironically Tuddy captained Victoria on the MCG in 1971 while not Captain of his own club.

Can we talk about stuff that happened in colour please...

 

[St BKD]

What if they say its pretty simple. We want 4 and 39 if you want 6 and 11. We aren't doing this as a favour to them. They will know we are doing this because we think 6 and 11 is so far in our favour. They may say to much.

Then we say 'we will pick at #4. Thanks for the call'

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[BrutThough]

Re: Hanners - i understand it to be something similar to the following:

We end up giving Pick 39 this year and a pick next year, but get 28 this year in return plus Hanners.

plenty of options, so we'll see what gets it done.

That would be a good trade

 

[Kennedy84]

Wow It is pick 4 for hanners!!!!!!

**** me

Please tell me you're joking....
Speachless at the minute, but ready to explode with plenty of profanitys if it is the case.

 

[St BKD]

Wow It is pick 4 for hanners!!!!!!

**** me

This kinda stuff should get a ban

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[sunny3193]

Des Tuddenham was also disenchanted and wanted to leave Collingwood after 1970. At one stage a Stewart-Tuddenham swap was considered. Not sure why it didn’t eventuate but the Tigers were unscrupulous at that time.

Tuddy would have been handy in the 1971 Grand Final.

Sorry, back to trade news..........

He would have run through Keddie before half time

 

[AFLOnline]

Please tell me you're joking....
Speachless at the minute, but ready to explode with plenty of profanitys if it is the case.

Lel sike

 

[PandaG]

Please tell me you're joking....
Speachless at the minute, but ready to explode with plenty of profanitys if it is the case.

I twas funny when the first guy did it...by the third time it was lame.