List Mgmt. 2019/20 Trade/Delist/Re-sign Predictions/Opinion (now with TRADE RADIO)

[DangerSloane]

What FWD/RUCK spot though?

WE will have Walker at CHF and Fogarty at FF, surrounded by Lynch and Frampton? That's a TALL Forward line.. I don't see it.

Yeh its certainly not simple, but we are going to have a lot more agility/chasing/tackling with anyone instead of JJ and stengle/mcadam instead of Betts.

Fog/Frampton/Stengle so much more forward pressure than Jenkins/Himmelberg/Betts

The other thing is we are likely to see a change in structure and see different roles with a new coach.

 

[footy4ever]

Typical Dwayne Russell

Port apparently have a "top 6" list

So it's fallen from the top 4 list Kochead was masturbating about?

 

[mattymac]

Future 4th for Jacobs

Stockpiling the future picks

 

[Firewalker]

Club must think they’re in with a show of getting Luke Edwards and other NGA players by taking these future 4th rounders for next year

 

[footy4ever]

Looks like Aish to Freo. He has flown to Freo for tests.

Good!

 

[Thetrader15]

 

[Maggsy]

Dont'get me wrong, with the deal done now - it looks like it's basically Jacobs out, Frampton in - so costs us nothing in reality. I just would be surprised if he played more than a few games in 2020.

 

[DangerSloane]

Why are people not going on about getting more for Jacobs?

Was it because the alternative was he left for free

 

[Maggsy]

Now that it's official, I'm on board.

I've always loved Big Framps

 

[dylan123]

Typical BF blinkers where only the here and now matter.

Reid consults with Ogilvie on all the pick swaps involved during trades. None are done without Hamish's approval.

You're missing the point. The issue isn't whether they're this draft or next so much, it's the pick/s we're getting for him.

Most expect something around a 20 for Greenwood compared to a future 3rd and 4th that was floated.

 

[kulak]

I get what you’re saying, but unless something changes Frampton is a walking 2 match suspension. Fogarty needs to pull his head in a bit too.

It’s a very fine line the current player has to tread.

Strategic fit. When Big Bad Billy is suspended for one week for a jumper punch it will line up beautifully with The Fog’s return from a one week suspension from a coat hanger.

 

[Thetrader15]

You're missing the point. The issue isn't whether they're this draft or next so much, it's the pick/s we're getting for him.

Most expect something around a 20 for Greenwood compared to a future 3rd and 4th that was floated.

we aren't getting 20 for Greenwood...unless we are dealing with GWS and our list manager is Graham Wright

 

[texas_ranger]

Greenwood traded to Gold Coast

Adelaide will receive future third round and fourth round draft selections from Gold Coast

www.afc.com.au

 

[WetCrow1991]

we aren't getting 20 for Greenwood...unless we are dealing with GWS and our list manager is Graham Wright

We got a future 3rd and a 4th round selection.

 

[ams4crows]

Why not a future 2nd for Greenwood? GC will already have 1, 11 and 19... surely they can give us 20.... its just 20 in next years draft... where we need points for F/S NGA

Supposedly we have 3 next year 2 known and one unknown

 

[Golumless]

The big concern I have Greenwood and Keath is how the list management decisions were made here. With these two it is that these two clearly wanted to stay, but in Jarryd Lyons style we offered up lesser contracts effectively to encourage them to leave. One goal would be create space on the list, but the other would no doubt have been to obtain some draft currency.

The trouble is these decisions were made effectively by a football department that no longer exists. These decisions would have been made 2-3 months+ ago, yet the ones heavily involved in making the decisions have either resigned or just been sacked.

Now it looks like we're a fair chance of losing both for SFA, when the entering coach may have had other ideals.

Unfortunately the consequence of a board who have been in denial and couldn't get their act together, when the writing was on the wall clear for all to see, months ago.

I mean, Reid doesn't change who is the list manager.

That said, I think we've already backed ourselves into the refresh corner with not making finals this year, which means, we do probably need to shed both of them.

 

[Thetrader15]

We got a future 3rd and a 4th round selection.

Is it already done?

Edit: Just saw it - loss

 

[Golumless]

I get what you’re saying, but unless something changes Frampton is a walking 2 match suspension. Fogarty needs to pull his head in a bit too.

It’s a very fine line the current player has to tread.

The occasional suspension isn't a bad thing.

Encourage them to be aggressive, and if they have the occasional week off for being reckless, so be it.

 

[Eagleboy2011]

GC 3rd and 4th would be equivalent to a F/S or NGA in the low 20's.
There will be clubs screaming for points next year so an opportunity to climb the ladder for Thilthorpe or trade our 1st and 2nd is valuable.

So what's a second round pick worth. That will get you better talent and more points.

 

[Thetrader15]

Approx equivalent to early 30s pick on points, which is obviously what we are trying to do

 

[Legz]

So what's a second round pick worth. That will get you better talent and more points.

 

[xchadders]

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I like how his new jumper matches his freckles

 

[Legz]

Approx equivalent to early 30s pick on points, which is obviously what we are trying to do

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If being used for F/S or NGA, once you factor in the discount you effectively match Pick 23.

 

[Vader]

Stockpiling all these future picks is fine, given that we're probably getting 2 players under F/S and NGA rules next year. However, it does absolutely nothing for replacing all our lost players this year.

So far the story is...
OUT: Douglas (delist), Otten (delist), Betts (traded), Jacobs (traded), Greenwood (traded), ** CEY (FA)
IN: Frampton
** CEY was on the rookie list

That's 5x senior players out, and only 1 senior player in. We're still waiting on Knight and Keath.

To replace them, we currently have the following 2019 draft picks: #4, #23, #28, and #49, plus picks in the 100+ range.

So far we're OK - 5 out, 1 in, 4x "decent" picks. However, we're now treading a very fine line.

 

[Thetrader15]

I like how his new jumper matches his freckles