But that moment will get singled out if we miss the final of the world test championship by a game.
We had our chances to win the second and fifth test as well but that will be the moment they pinpoint
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We had our chances to win the second and fifth test as well but that will be the moment they pinpoint
Both Finch and Roy aren't test match openers. But there's more to it that both nations trying to convert white ball stars to the test arena with disastrous effect. Finch is a quality captain at ODI level and his test selection (and that of Head) seemed more about bolstering our leadership and captaincy options post sandpapergate.
Not that I'm advocating it, but I daresay our team would be stronger if we brought in Finch (C) and Carey and dropped Harris and Paine. Finch could either open or bat down the order and captain this summer. Having Carey improve the lower order and having Finch as captain would be big improvements and would more than offset Finch's fragility as a test batsman.
A batting line-up like this...
Khawaja
Warner
Labuschagne
Smith
Finch (C)
Carey
Wade/Head (if selected, at 6) / Marsh (if selected, at 7)
... is a slightly stronger batting line up and capably led. Roy has zero test attributes, Finch has one (leadership) and can actually catch to boot.
Roy offers so, so much less at test level than even Finch could...
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Finch could under no circumstances open the batting in England, and I doubt he could have batted down the order either.
Agreed. I'm more trying to point out that Finch has at least one attribute that might earn him a test recall (say if he's in ok form in the summer and then Paine gets injured, or the selectors decide they must pick Carey) while Roy has proven he has absolutely nothing at all to offer at all at test level.
We need keepers who can keep, I'm not sure that Carey is there yet and watching him learn on the job could be rather painful. Picking keepers because our batsmen are gash seems stupid. Pick him as a batsman if necessary.
Nah, I think we are all onboard with pointing the fingers at the batsmen if we miss out on the test championship. Leaving out Sir Smith of course.
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I remember last summer , Root won all 5 coin tosses v India and we won 4-1 .
There is no way we were vastly superior to them but the scoreline says we thrashed them. That is down to winning the toss and having best use of the pitch.
In the Ashes Paine has won 4 out of 5 tosses..
so I believe we did well to draw 2-2 .
There is no way we were vastly superior to them but the scoreline says we thrashed them. That is down to winning the toss and having best use of the pitch.
In the Ashes Paine has won 4 out of 5 tosses..
so I believe we did well to draw 2-2 .
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I find it somewhat amazing that just 4 batsmen scored a century in this series - Smith, Burns, Wade and Stokes. Only 8 centuries (Smith 3, Wade 2, Stokes,2 and Burns 1) were scored in the series too.
You had great bowling conditions first test and wasted them(had us 8-120) and you had the biggest advantage of the whole series bowling first under very dark skies at headingley, you were going to bat first at the oval no matter what and as it turns out both sides were wrong to want to bowl first at lords so that was a lucky toss to lose.
Overall you got the better bowling conditions through the series and still couldn't get the ashes back at home.
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Interestingly, 8 is more than was scored in 2015 when just 5 centuries were posted. That mark was the lowest since the 1975 Ashes series.
Steve Smith now accounts for 1/3rd (9 out of 27) of Ashes centuries since and including Sydney 2013/14, with no one else posting more than 2 Ashes tons. In that time he has also has double the amount of Ashes runs of anyone bar Joe Root (Smith 2091, Root 1163, Warner 986).
http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/en...1=span;template=results;trophy=1;type=batting
We don't need any more evidence of Steve Smith's ocean-going size awesomeness.
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Root wanted to do the opposite of Paine anyway at Lords and The Oval. So can't really hide behind the tosses as the reason for 2-2.
Not so good to see Michael Slater on the TV in the background. A reminder of the shitshow we're in for over summer.Always good to see the boys sharing a beer after the series.
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Tough bastard is Siddle, Starc would have stopped bowling and left the team a man down if he broke a fingernail!
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Kind of like Anderson in the first Test, huh?
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Would he have abandoned the tour and gone home when things were going poorly?
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The Murdoch press is the lowest of the low.
I guess because Stokes writes a column for a rival newpaper that grates with Murdochs minions.
We are really in bed with the devil with Murdoch with our TV deal
Fantastic photo, very different players obviously but both are very tough competitors.Always good to see the boys sharing a beer after the series.
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Review article --- "Patchy, dodgy, and delightful, it should be marked as one of the most entertaining series in living memory "
(https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-09...down-as-one-of-the-most-entertaining/11526066)
I'd agree with that; it certainly was an entertaining roller-coaster
BUT
after winning the toss, putting them IN to bat at The Oval?? I still can't get over that.
(https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-09...down-as-one-of-the-most-entertaining/11526066)
I'd agree with that; it certainly was an entertaining roller-coaster
BUT
after winning the toss, putting them IN to bat at The Oval?? I still can't get over that.
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