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could we mix in on the Butler deal to come up with something better?
Looks like Melbourne are trading 3 for 6 and GWS future first
Good trade for both.
Pick 3 is equal to 6.
Most likely they would get the player they wanted.
14 and 37 points wise is 1644
Don't think Geelong would risk it, especially considering all of the nga and f/s bids....
thats why saints want to do our deal first so that they can keep what they get from dogs...saints may get dogs 2020 first ,something going back....
Personally, I feel that Hill is suffering the same problem as Neale last year, being undervalued badly by most just because they don’t watch too many of our games. After Neale move to Brisbane, he is suddenly perceived to be so much better, winning AA and brownlow votes.
Since coming to Freo, Hill have improved tremendously and is taking games on and threaten to win games via his own foot. I’ll say in terms of impacting games, Hill will have more impact than Neale.
Asking for 2 1st rounder with something going back is fair. Problem is, most will still be stuck with the impression of Hill in his Hawthorne days, hence they think we are asking for too much.
Honestly, I’ll rather keep him. His kind of talent is irreplaceable.
Since coming to Freo, Hill have improved tremendously and is taking games on and threaten to win games via his own foot. I’ll say in terms of impacting games, Hill will have more impact than Neale.
Asking for 2 1st rounder with something going back is fair. Problem is, most will still be stuck with the impression of Hill in his Hawthorne days, hence they think we are asking for too much.
Honestly, I’ll rather keep him. His kind of talent is irreplaceable.
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Acres is highly talented and yet to tap into his potential.
He has been playing alongside a shit midfield, like the best he's played alongside is Stevens who doesn't seem like a great mentor (not being disrespectful just saying it how it is). I think alongside some other A grade big bodies like Mundy & Fyfe he will flourish!
genuinely excited at the thought of having him in purple, getting him and Aish is significantly better than Robertson/Menadue/Masten. If we can pull of deal for Hill where we don't get shafted i think we've had a brilliant trade period!
He has been playing alongside a shit midfield, like the best he's played alongside is Stevens who doesn't seem like a great mentor (not being disrespectful just saying it how it is). I think alongside some other A grade big bodies like Mundy & Fyfe he will flourish!
genuinely excited at the thought of having him in purple, getting him and Aish is significantly better than Robertson/Menadue/Masten. If we can pull of deal for Hill where we don't get shafted i think we've had a brilliant trade period!
That's far from neutral in my opinion. If that comes to pass Bell has smashed it out of the park.
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Doesn’t take much to do that though.
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I’ve always been unsure on this.
Picking up people who “were” first rounders is like the opposite of Moneyball which seems a generally sound strategy in a salary cap/draft system.
Can’t get behind the paywall
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I think it's the epitome of a moneyball situation. Players who came in highly rated but have stalled due to role or injury, we get them cheap and repurpose their talent to a new role.
Both Aish and Acres are inside/outside mids. Playing them on ball and the wing would be different to the half back and half forward role they have been playing currently
Or, he’ll easily double his poll just by virtue of playing for St Kilda.
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St Kilda will emerge triumphant from the trade period with the Brad Hill deal effectively done and a complex trade nailed to secure Paddy Ryder and Dougal Howard.
The Herald Sun understands the Saints and Dockers have agreed on a deal to send St Kilda’s No.10 pick, their future second-rounder and pick 58 to the Dockers.
Saints utility Blake Acres could also be thrown into the trade after heading to Perth today to assess a shock move home.
But he is not a deal-breaker, with the former No.19 draft pick expected to be thrown into the swap after a trade for Hill was already agreed by both clubs.
Despite St Kilda throwing up his name two days ago - only for Freo to knock it back - he is expected to play on a wing for the Dockers next year.
It means St Kilda has found a way to secure Ryder, Hill and Howard while still preserving its first-round selection next year.
The AFL will be happy for St Kilda to officially lodge the Hill deal after 3pm on the last of nine days in the trade period to preserve some drama for the league’s annual meat market.
The Saints will approach the last day of the trade period believing they can achieve their grand vision of securing that trio as well as Sydney’s Zak Jones and Richmond’s Dan Butler.
Today, as revealed by the Herald Sun, they turned picks 12 and 18 into 10, Howard and Ryder, with the Power and Saints also swapping third and fourth-round picks.
Kingy and Joey have talked up Acres on Fox Footy’s trade day. Reckon a change of scenery will do him good.
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