2019 Off-Season Discussion

[TheGreatBarryB]

And in further shocking news for the Redskins they confirm Rob Ryan as new inside LB coach....the the humanity

 

[Demonic Ascent]

vale redskins dolphins raiders
once great organizations

Private ownership is a terrible sports model. So glad the AFL ceased going down this track after their lessons with Edelsten and Skase.

Member owned sports club will still have incompetent administrations but at least there's an element of accountability for it and they can be voted out. How do Redskins fans get rid of Snyder, Browns with Haslem, Jets with Johnson? Of course revenue loss will hurt them but these guys are billionaires and their egos won't allow them to just sell up and move on or hand the reigns over to their employees (who are often terrible hires made by them anyway).

 

[Exe Gesis]

Private ownership is a terrible sports model. So glad the AFL ceased going down this track after their lessons with Edelsten and Skase.

Member owned sports club will still have incompetent administrations but at least there's an element of accountability for it and they can be voted out. How do Redskins fans get rid of Snyder, Browns with Haslem, Jets with Johnson? Of course revenue loss will hurt them but these guys are billionaires and their egos won't allow them to just sell up and move on or hand the reigns over to their employees (who are often terrible hires made by them anyway).

whole-heartedly agree. this includes teams belonging to cities/regions then as well, wont see a relocation.

 

[Exe Gesis]

Donlphins CB Xavien Howard admits to hearing trade rumors as he prepares to head into the final year of his rookie contract.

Howard stated after the season ended that he wants to be the highest-paid corner in the league, besting Josh Norman's $15 million per year. We haven't seen any concrete rumors reported by the media, but there's speculation whether Miami will want to pay Howard accordingly when the team is in full rebuild mode. Howard is a 26-year-old (in July) fast-rising star and would certainly fetch a nice haul for the Dolphins draft picks-wise. His only concern is a knee injury history.


Source: ESPN.com

 

[rumply]

Roger Goodell: NFL will 'look again at instant replay'

NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell told reporters Wednesday that the much-discussed non-call on Rams cornerback Nickell Robey-Coleman during the NFC Championship Game was a play that "should have been called" and the league will "look again at instant replay."


Much of Goodell's time during his State of the League news conference in Atlanta was spent fielding questions centered around the non-call and steps the league can possibly take to ensure that plays like that do not happen again.


"Let me start just on the basics. Look, we understand the frustration of the fans. I've talked to [Saints coach Sean Payton], the team, the players. We understand the frustration that they feel right now. We certainly want to address that," Goodell said ahead of Sunday's Super Bowl LIII between the Rams and Patriots. "Whenever officiating is part of any kind of discussion post-game, it's never a good outcome for us."


Payton in the immediate aftermath of the Saints' overtime loss to the Rams on Jan. 20 -- which featured the non-call that would have given New Orleans a potential game-icing first-down late in the fourth quarter -- said the play showed "all more reason we need more replay."


Goodell was asked if the play could spark an expansion of replay.

"We have worked very hard to bring technology in to try to make sure we can do whatever's possible to address those issues," Goodell said. "But technology is not going to solve all of those issues. The game is not officiated by robots, it's not going to be. But we have to continue to go down that path. Specifically, on Sunday night I think Coach Payton spoke to Al Riveron, our head of officials, immediately after the game. Al told him that that's the play we want to have called. I have spoken to him, Troy Vincent, the head of football operations, has spoken to him. I've spoken to [Saints owner Gayle Benson]. Coach has also spoken to the competition committee, Rich McKay, the chairman, so there's been a great deal of communication in making sure that they understand that."

Goodell added: "We will look again at instant replay. There have been a variety of proposals over the last, frankly, 15 or 20 years, of 'should replay be expanded?' It does not cover judgment calls. ... The other complication is that it was a no-call. Our coaches and clubs have been very resistant and there has not been support to date about having a replay official or somebody in New York throw a flag when there's no flag. They have not voted for that in the past. It doesn't mean that we won't, it's something that we're going to put to the competition committee, see if there's an answer to that, but the reality is that's been at least an opposition philosophically for many clubs."


The competition committee is expected to examine potentially reviewing penalties ahead of March's Annual League Meeting, and Goodell was asked what his role is regarding those discussions.


"As it relates to what I think my role is is to make sure that the competition committee understands that this is critical for us to analyze, to evaluate and try to see if there's a better solution than what we have today," Goodell said.


"Always what happens in the competition committee is not just considering a solution, but what are the unintended consequences to that solution? And that's part of this issue of not wanting a replay official or official back in New York throwing the flag on the no-call. If that happens, you could have multiple fouls on a play that people are looking at. Now there's solutions for this, and I'm not suggesting that, that's what the committee has to focus in on. What are the solutions? What are the unintended consequences? And come up with something that we think can keep the competitive nature of our game, but also improve officiating."

Goodell's comments regarding the so-called slippery slope of instant replay are similar to previous remarks from some of the non-Sean Payton members of the league's competition committee.


"Where do you stop in that process?" McKay asked during a radio interview last week. "And I think all of those things need to be talked about, because it doesn't mean it's not possible, but it does mean you need to figure out exactly how you would implement and not impact the game negatively."


Goodell also emphatically shot down the notion that he could have intervened and overturned the result of the NFC title game due to a missed call by an official.




Goodell's statements regarding the no-call on Robey-Coleman were the league's first public comments since the NFC Championship Game, and he was asked about the perceived delay in discussing the events in New Orleans.


"As I said to you we addressed the immediately after the game. We spoke to the coach [Sean Payton]. The coach announced the conversation and the fact that this play should have been called and we had several conversations with those clubs and other officials over the next several days. That's our process. That's what we always do, particularly with judgement calls. And so it was handled no differently other than to make sure that we listen and communicated that to the officials."


While Goodell stressed on multiple occasions that a flag should been thrown on Robey-Coleman, he did take time to praise the work done by officials the difficulties the face in calling games.


"We also know our officials are human," Goodell said. "We also know that they're officiating a game that moves very quickly and have to make snap decisions under difficult circumstances and they're not going to get it right every time."


"They're men and women of high integrity. They're that people that, when people are talking about officiating, they know that's not the outcome they want. So I know they're disappointed also. But they work hard to make sure we improve officiating and I think they do an excellent job."

 

[Exe Gesis]

The Miami Herald reports the Dolphins are expected to release Ryan Tannehill.

The Dolphins' power structure, including owner Stephen Ross, have "agreed they are moving on from Tannehill." Miami's plan to pull the plug on Tannehill has been out there for awhile, but the Dolphins are starting to realize they won't be able to trade him with his contract. It's possible Tannehill restructures his deal to facilitate a trade, but the most likely scenario is a clean break for both sides. In a weak quarterback market, it won't be surprising if Tannehill gets a chance to compete for a starting role somewhere in 2019.





Source: Miami Herald

 

[Exe Gesis]

With news the Dolphins are outright releasing Tannehill. With Flacco and Foles available. The 1st round of the draft is going to be interesting in terms of QBs taken or not, given the number of QB needy teams AND the number of decent vet FA QBs who could be acquired instead by them, freeing these teams up to NOT take a QB in the 1st/2nd round.

 

[drd23]

Absolute lock for first ballot HOF. Kinda surprised he didn't try to play one more season to lock down #3 all time in sacks (he's 0.5 behind Kevin Greene in 3rd)

 

[Sven]

With news the Dolphins are outright releasing Tannehill. With Flacco and Foles available. The 1st round of the draft is going to be interesting in terms of QBs taken or not, given the number of QB needy teams AND the number of decent vet FA QBs who could be acquired instead by them, freeing these teams up to NOT take a QB in the 1st/2nd round.

You’d have to add Bridgewater to the mix. The draft isn’t looking good for QBs so I’d expect a very healthy market for FA QBs. As always demand exceeds supply.

 

[aussiedude]

The NFL making judgement calls like PI reviewable would be one of the dumbest things they have ever done. Just train the refs better and get better ones.

If PI is going to be challenged, then you must make OPI the same [including pick plays]. and if those judgement calls are now reviewable why not holding, or if a tackle leaves his stance before the ball is snapped.

And then what will determine who much contact will be needed to change a call since they are judgement calls. And since most crews have different standards for the amount of contact it will under mind them even more and make the refs hesitate more, so they dont throw a flag and let the coaches challenge it or NY take a look at it.

It will just open Pandora's box

 

[rumply]

The NFL making judgement calls like PI reviewable would be one of the dumbest things they have ever done. Just train the refs better and get better ones.

If PI is going to be challenged, then you must make OPI the same [including pick plays]. and if those judgement calls are now reviewable why not holding, or if a tackle leaves his stance before the ball is snapped.

And then what will determine who much contact will be needed to change a call since they are judgement calls. And since most crews have different standards for the amount of contact it will under mind them even more and make the refs hesitate more, so they dont throw a flag and let the coaches challenge it or NY take a look at it.

It will just open Pandora's box

Reviewable pick plays would be a nightmare, some games would never get finished.

Doesn't matter how well officials get trained up though, they'll still make howler calls/non calls & not have to explain themselves publicly. A first year high school official or a grizzly 20 year vet - we should have confidence that both would have thrown the flag in that situation - so momentary incompetence or worse, bias, corruption or rigging, these things will still happen.

Unfortunately there has to be some mechanism to correct these blatant mistakes. What other way is there besides a coaches challenge or handing all such incidents straight over to NY?

 

[TheGreatBarryB]

Strange time to get rid of Tannehill with weak draft class.

 

[rumply]

Strange time to get rid of Tannehill with weak draft class.

Yeah I saw that before. I think we now have a good idea where Foles will end up.

 

[Exe Gesis]

Strange time to get rid of Tannehill with weak draft class.

also forgot to mention Bridgewster is also available

 

[Broken]

Just read that ex-Vikings QB Wade Wilson died at the age of 60.

Won a SB ring with the Cowboys, but also played for a few other teams.

 

[TheGreatBarryB]

also forgot to mention Bridgewster is also available

True but I don’t see him as much of an improvement if any.

 

[Exe Gesis]

True but I don’t see him as much of an improvement if any.

tyrod taylor is also available i think

 

[rumply]

Lol

 

[Exe Gesis]

 

[TheGreatBarryB]

That’s brilliant

 

[Broken]

Marvin Lewis - "Can't wait to be on a winning team"

 

[GlocksTickin]

Just decided I'm going to the next Super Bowl in 2020. Just checked and it's in Miami. Would have preferred a better city but who ****ing cares in all honesty. It's the Super Bowl. Will be putting weekly savings away, the ticket to the match itself will cost an absolute shit load, but it is what it is and you folk know the price they go at. I've always wanted to see the Patriots, spewing I didn't go this year. Would love to see them next but at the same time, these campaigners make it every ****ing year it seems.


Will be heading to a Championship Game too.


https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/...e-way-in-sales-for-cheap-seats-its-near-3000/



just read the above. To be honest that's expensive, but not the 6000 U.S I read a couple of weeks ago. 2900 odd U.S Dollars is 4k Aussie. Expensive yes, a rip off yes, but I'd live with it. The Super Bowl is a once in a life time thing.


Time to start saving.

 

[Broken]

Just decided I'm going to the next Super Bowl in 2020. Just checked and it's in Miami. Would have preferred a better city but who ******* cares in all honesty. It's the Super Bowl. Will be putting weekly savings away, the ticket to the match itself will cost an absolute shit load, but it is what it is and you folk know the price they go at. I've always wanted to see the Patriots, spewing I didn't go this year. Would love to see them next but at the same time, these campaigners make it every ******* year it seems.


Will be heading to a Championship Game too.


https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/...e-way-in-sales-for-cheap-seats-its-near-3000/



just read the above. To be honest that's expensive, but not the 6000 U.S I read a couple of weeks ago. 2900 odd U.S Dollars is 4k Aussie. Expensive yes, a rip off yes, but I'd live with it. The Super Bowl is a once in a life time thing.


Time to start saving.

By all accounts the Super Bowls in Miami have a real good atmosphere all week.

 

[Exe Gesis]

Just decided I'm going to the next Super Bowl in 2020. Just checked and it's in Miami. Would have preferred a better city but who ******* cares in all honesty. It's the Super Bowl. Will be putting weekly savings away, the ticket to the match itself will cost an absolute shit load, but it is what it is and you folk know the price they go at. I've always wanted to see the Patriots, spewing I didn't go this year. Would love to see them next but at the same time, these campaigners make it every ******* year it seems.


Will be heading to a Championship Game too.


https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/...e-way-in-sales-for-cheap-seats-its-near-3000/



just read the above. To be honest that's expensive, but not the 6000 U.S I read a couple of weeks ago. 2900 odd U.S Dollars is 4k Aussie. Expensive yes, a rip off yes, but I'd live with it. The Super Bowl is a once in a life time thing.


Time to start saving.

Just try to get on the Patriots staff somehow, whatever job it doesn't matter. You'll go to the Super Bowl and it won't cost an arm and a leg.

 

[Exe Gesis]

the NFL HONORS ceremony is happening right now....

here's the web-page where a running list of winners and HOFers is getting announced...

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001015493/article/running-list-of-nfl-honors-award-winners