2019 United Kingdom Election CONSERVATIVE WIN

[its free real estate]

If you first take your voter base for granted then you can appeal to all the other bit part groups to form your super group and get into power.

Steve Sailer’s coalition of the fringes.

 

[Jupes]

Most young people aren't children of bankers, and those who are are more likely to be Conservative voters. Young working class people weren't the strong Labour voters (or indeed, voters) they are now until Corbyn became leader, because Labour and Blair took this demographic for granted.

There aren't easy answers, as many of you like to depict, and likewise the "working class" isn't entirely white, male, middle aged and living entirely in the towns of the north of England, again as commonly is depicted. The people in those towns had their job options undermined over the last few decades, but that also means the younger people in those towns don't have work options either, and so they've moved to the cities for opportunities. And they've overwhelmingly voted Labour, and Corbynism has successfully locked these people into its project.

Blair abandoned both older and younger working class voters, while the Conservatives didn't care about them. Some of those older voters switched to the Tories, some switched to the Brexit Party, some stayed home. Labour need to win them back, obviously, but if it returns to taking younger working class voters for granted then it's not going anywhere.

My point was re-framing class as "an age thing" is pretty handy if you're an upper/middle-class student in London larping as a socialist revolutionary. In reality radical Labour saw a -10% swing in the working-class and the 'high-school or below' vote from 2017. -10%. In two years. It took Blair a decade and a war to do comparable damage. Corbyn and his academic progressivism was such cancer to the working-class over a dozen deprived northern Labour strongholds turned blue for the first time in 70 years (some 100), and the only seat they gained was Putney, one of the wealthiest in the country.

 

[Pessimistic]

I thought we had it tough exclusively in the north, then I visited Holloway suburb of greater London. It was rough

over 30 yrs ago by the way

 

[HairyO]

The labour party in the UK is banking on the Muslim vote, makes you wonder what sort of appeasing and spending they will make moving forward.

This is why the Conservatives introduced Same Sex Marriage.

Labour's new base are totally opposed.

 

[its free real estate]

I thought we had it tough exclusively in the north, then I visited Holloway suburb of greater London. It was rough

over 30 yrs ago by the way

Full of hipsters now.

 

[Les Malone]

This is why the Conservatives introduced Same Sex Marriage.

Labour's new base are totally opposed.

That's just the start of it, the demographic clock is ticking, particularly in England and France, the left are loving it for their own insane reasons and the right in general have their head in the sand.

Its like if we just ignore it -it wont happen.

 

[blackcat]

Most young people aren't children of bankers, and those who are are more likely to be Conservative voters. Young working class people weren't the strong Labour voters (or indeed, voters) they are now until Corbyn became leader, because Labour and Blair took this demographic for granted.

There aren't easy answers, as many of you like to depict, and likewise the "working class" isn't entirely white, male, middle aged and living entirely in the towns of the north of England, again as commonly is depicted. The people in those towns had their job options undermined over the last few decades, but that also means the younger people in those towns don't have work options either, and so they've moved to the cities for opportunities. And they've overwhelmingly voted Labour, and Corbynism has successfully locked these people into its project.

Blair abandoned both older and younger working class voters, while the Conservatives didn't care about them. Some of those older voters switched to the Tories, some switched to the Brexit Party, some stayed home. Labour need to win them back, obviously, but if it returns to taking younger working class voters for granted then it's not going anywhere.

bring back milliband brahs, #meds what say you

 

[Sainteric]

Blair knew giving ol rupes the blowjob was worth a hundred policies

Pess he knew how to win and wanted to be in a party of Govt. You can't be a racist, hate Britain, be a friend to every terrorist out there and be PM. It has nothing to do with Rupert at all.

 

[medusala]

bring back milliband brahs, #meds what say you

£680k working for a charity allegedly tax free. Working class hero

 

[Chief]

BBC Radio 4 - More or Less: Behind the Stats, Election Special (2/2)

Labour's spending plans, Conservatives claims on homelessness, the SNP's education record

www.bbc.co.uk

Corbyn's dodgy numbers on benefit to the average family, and BoJo's even dodgier claims about homelessness - which was shrinking until the Conservatives came in and killed programmes and funding, and has been growing since 2010.

 

[Northalives]

Congratulations to the Tories on their thumping victory in the UK election held on THURSDAY the 12th of December, 2019.

Of the 47,587,254 registered voters, the Tories gained 29.35% of the vote, Labour 21.58%, Liberal Democrats 7.77%, Others 12% and a whopping 32.7% couldn't get to a polling booth/didn't give a f**k/not interested/voted for anarchy.

To put it into perspective, 15,561,032 didn't bother to vote which is more than all of those who voted in the last Australian Federal Election (15,088,616). We had a voter turn out of 91.89% at the last election, the UK had a miserable 67.3% which was LOWER than their 2017 election turnout of 69.1%.

 

[Pessimistic]

Pess he knew how to win and wanted to be in a party of Govt. You can't be a racist, hate Britain, be a friend to every terrorist out there and be PM. It has nothing to do with Rupert at all.

and back in kinnocks an foots time they were going to invite the russians in. Next

 

[Pessimistic]

So if bojo accepts the vote as ahuge tick for independence from europe, why isnt the massive vote for the SNP a tick for scotlands independence?

 

[Northalives]

So if bojo accepts the vote as ahuge tick for independence from europe, why isnt the massive vote for the SNP a tick for scotlands independence?

they're just foo***ng scots son! Just give 'em haggis and fried mars bars and they'll be right - remember, we Englishmen subdued them devil worshipers in Ireland and we'll do the same to them if needs be.

 

[Les Malone]

So the actual poll on this board is pretty well the exact opposite of real life.

That actually makes sense because we know the left lives in its own little echo chamber of lies and hate on the many platforms of social media.

 

[Pessimistic]

We english were once the superpower of the world but treat our citizens like shit At the VERY SAME TIME.

some superpwer

 

[Pessimistic]

So the actual poll on this board is pretty well the exact opposite of real life.

That actually makes sense because we know the left lives in its own little echo chamber of lies and hate on the many platforms of social media.

did the numbers get to three figures yet? Honestly dont get rustled by that

 

[Jupes]

So if bojo accepts the vote as ahuge tick for independence from europe, why isnt the massive vote for the SNP a tick for scotlands independence?

It's a tick for Sturgo to pursue another independence referendum I guess, considering that was in their platform. Even though they had a "once-in-a-lifetime" vote only five years ago and No won pretty emphatically.

 

[medusala]

BBC Radio 4 - More or Less: Behind the Stats, Election Special (2/2)

Labour's spending plans, Conservatives claims on homelessness, the SNP's education record

www.bbc.co.uk

Corbyn's dodgy numbers on benefit to the average family, and BoJo's even dodgier claims about homelessness - which was shrinking until the Conservatives came in and killed programmes and funding, and has been growing since 2010.

A large % are from the EU, is that Boris's fault? BREXIT will cut homlessness, just another benefit.

So if bojo accepts the vote as ahuge tick for independence from europe, why isnt the massive vote for the SNP a tick for scotlands independence?

Hardly the same. Leave won a referendum then both major parties agreed to leave, then Article 50 was voted for by huge numbers.

In Scotland the leave referendum was lost and all other parties are against Brexit.

 

[Pessimistic]

Nice try guys, that was before brexit. Brecxit is deeply unpopular in scotland and changes the game.

SNP is the major party in scotland, which still maintains a historically seperate legal and administrative system

btw theres been more UK referendums voting stay in europe than voted leave

 

[Pessimistic]

A large % are from the EU, is that Boris's fault? BREXIT will cut homlessness, just another benefit.



Hardly the same. Leave won a referendum then both major parties agreed to leave, then Article 50 was voted for by huge numbers.

In Scotland the leave referendum was lost and all other parties are against Brexit.

and all the people who haveleft the UK? Theres another source of lost traditional labour votes

 

[Pessimistic]

the other graphic showed young women voting labour in huge numbers. Surely the biggest demographic affected by insecure emplyment etc.

I see the tories are still operating the 30-40-30 rule first used by thatcher

 

[HairyO]

So a cornerstone of the Conservative platform will be more funding for the NHS.

I thought it was going to be de funded. Hrmmm.

 

[Les Malone]

Good to see democracy win out and Brexit moving ahead as it should of 3 years ago.

Soon the UK will be a sovereign nation

 

[Pessimistic]

So a cornerstone of the Conservative platform will be more funding for the NHS.

I thought it was going to be de funded. Hrmmm.

Election year. Had there not been an election, would it be happening?