Prediction 2020 Fixture

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Why is it we cop so many ******* trips to Tassie considering its the longest ******* trip other than Queensland?

Us and Freo should seriously get about five seasons of no Tasmania trips considering both WA teams seem to cop it more than anyone else
Geelong should be getting sent down there to balance out their unique home ground advantage + Vic travel advantage that no one else has. Don’t know why we’re always getting the raw end. We always get calls about having a home ground advantage that none of the Vic sides have.. yeah but we pay for it by travelling 70.000+ kms every ******* year. Plus that advantage has now evened out a little with the dimensions of Optus. I reckon a fair few sides would be clocking up 20 win seasons if they had Geelongs fixture every year.

Not to be negative but you’d have to pencil in GMHBA and Launceston as losses going into the year (expecting the worst and hoping for the best).. so we can only really afford another 4 at best. Possibly 2 games against Richmond, say we go 50/50 there.. we’re going to need to win all our home games and hope we get Gold Coast and Saints away or something. Would’ve been good to fill up one of those “away” games with Alice Springs again.

Honestly don’t have high hopes.. expecting us to get shafted. Geelong twice (playing at the shithole), Richmond twice, going to Brisbane or Sydney again, Launceston, possibly double up against an Adelaide side (which wouldn’t be too bad), two derbies and then getting all the average sides at home. Fingers crossed for a whole heap of dry flat track decks.
 
Geelong should be getting sent down there to balance out their unique home ground advantage + Vic travel advantage that no one else has. Don’t know why we’re always getting the raw end. We always get calls about having a home ground advantage that none of the Vic sides have.. yeah but we pay for it by travelling 70.000+ kms every ******* year. Plus that advantage has now evened out a little with the dimensions of Optus. I reckon a fair few sides would be clocking up 20 win seasons if they had Geelongs fixture every year.

Not to be negative but you’d have to pencil in GMHBA and Launceston as losses going into the year (expecting the worst and hoping for the best).. so we can only really afford another 4 at best. Possibly 2 games against Richmond, say we go 50/50 there.. we’re going to need to win all our home games and hope we get Gold Coast and Saints away or something. Would’ve been good to fill up one of those “away” games with Alice Springs again.

Honestly don’t have high hopes.. expecting us to get shafted. Geelong twice (playing at the shithole), Richmond twice, going to Brisbane or Sydney again, Launceston, possibly double up against an Adelaide side (which wouldn’t be too bad) and then getting all the average sides at home. Fingers crossed for a whole heap of dry flat track decks.

There is lot's of really good points in this post. I probably am a bit more optimistic about our chances and a little more nonplussed about what we know about the fixture so far.

I'm not too fussed about what has been released in the fixture so far. In fact, I think the last 2 years has proven we are a very good travelling team.

What history tells us is that if we finish top 2, we will make the Grand Final (6 out of 6 times AFAIK). We know in recent history that 16/6 record is often good enough for top 2 and 17/5 will be enough.

I know it's a bit of crude and rudimentary benchmark, but if we look at the fixture and can realistically see us winning 10/12 home games and 6/10 away games, that could very likely be enough (percentage dependant) to finish top 2 and see us in the Grand Final again.

This year we had a difficult fixture in terms of who we had to play away, however met the 6/10 needed for top 2. What let us down the most was the 3 losses at home, 2 against teams outside the 8, and a fadeout against the Pies. That is what cost us a spot in this years Grand Final, not the fact that we had to play Geelong/Richmond/Brisbane/Sydney on the road.
 
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There is lot's of really good points in this post. I probably am a bit more optimistic about our chances and a little more nonplussed about what we know about the fixture so far.

I'm not too fussed about what has been released in the fixture so far. In fact, I think the last 2 years has proven we are a very good travelling team.

What history tells us is that if we finish top 2, we will make the Grand Final (6 out of 6 times AFAIK). We know in recent history that 16/6 record is often good enough for top 2 and 17/5 will be enough.

I know it's a bit of crude and rudimentary benchmark, but if we look at the fixture and can realistically see us winning 10/12 home games and 6/10 away games, that could very likely be enough (percentage dependant) to finish top 2 and see us in the Grand Final again.

This year we had a difficult fixture in terms of who we had to play away, however met the 6/10 needed for top 2. What let us down the most was the 3 losses at home, 2 against teams outside the 8, and a fadeout against the Pies. That is what cost us a spot in this years Grand Final, not the fact that we had to play Geelong/Richmond/Brisbane/Sydney on the road.
That is an excellent point. I'd forgotten that port and hawks beat us at home, neither making the 8.
 
There is lot's of really good points in this post. I probably am a bit more optimistic about our chances and a little more nonplussed about what we know about the fixture so far.

I'm not too fussed about what has been released in the fixture so far. In fact, I think the last 2 years has proven we are a very good travelling team.

What history tells us is that if we finish top 2, we will make the Grand Final (6 out of 6 times AFAIK). We know in recent history that 16/6 record is often good enough for top 2 and 17/5 will be enough.

I know it's a bit of crude and rudimentary benchmark, but if we look at the fixture and can realistically see us winning 10/12 home games and 6/10 away games, that could very likely be enough (percentage dependant) to finish top 2 and see us in the Grand Final again.

This year we had a difficult fixture in terms of who we had to play away, however met the 6/10 needed for top 2. What let us down the most was the 3 losses at home, 2 against teams outside the 8, and a fadeout against the Pies. That is what cost us a spot in this years Grand Final, not the fact that we had to play Geelong/Richmond/Brisbane/Sydney on the road.

Great post.

Losing to good teams on the road isn't unusual. Its losses to crap teams at home that kill us (round 23!).
 
There is lot's of really good points in this post. I probably am a bit more optimistic about our chances and a little more nonplussed about what we know about the fixture so far.

I'm not too fussed about what has been released in the fixture so far. In fact, I think the last 2 years has proven we are a very good travelling team.

What history tells us is that if we finish top 2, we will make the Grand Final (6 out of 6 times AFAIK). We know in recent history that 16/6 record is often good enough for top 2 and 17/5 will be enough.

I know it's a bit of crude and rudimentary benchmark, but if we look at the fixture and can realistically see us winning 10/12 home games and 6/10 away games, that could very likely be enough (percentage dependant) to finish top 2 and see us in the Grand Final again.

This year we had a difficult fixture in terms of who we had to play away, however met the 6/10 needed for top 2. What let us down the most was the 3 losses at home, 2 against teams outside the 8, and a fadeout against the Pies. That is what cost us a spot in this years Grand Final, not the fact that we had to play Geelong/Richmond/Brisbane/Sydney on the road.
Yeah good points but 2018 we also had a couple of bad home losses if I remember correctly. Essendon and Melbourne (to be fair arguably should’ve won both of those in the end). But we were able to balance that out by playing most of our away games in Melbourne or Adelaide against pretty average opposition. We got SCG and Hobart but I think the rest worked in our favour (Richmond and Geelong at Optus being the big ones).

2019 was different as we got all the shittest grounds at once so we weren’t able to get enough “cheap” away wins to offset the home losses. As it turns out we only needed one. Swap any of Sydney, Brisbane, Geelong with North, Essendon, Bulldogs, or Adelaide and we most likely just played off in a GF.
 
Yeah good points but 2018 we also had a couple of bad home losses if I remember correctly. Essendon and Melbourne (to be fair arguably should’ve won both of those in the end). But we were able to balance that out by playing most of our away games in Melbourne or Adelaide against pretty average opposition. We got SCG and Hobart but I think the rest worked in our favour (Richmond and Geelong at Optus being the big ones).

2019 was different as we got all the shittest grounds at once so we weren’t able to get enough “cheap” away wins to offset the home losses. As it turns out we only needed one. Swap any of Sydney, Brisbane, Geelong with North, Essendon, Bulldogs, or Adelaide and we most likely just played off in a GF.

That’s true. When I think about it, and both fixtures were top 6 fixtures.

My point was more about the fact that we shouldn’t be feeling negative about the fixture. 2019 was a hard fixture and we were too far off the mark (one point against Collingwood really). If gov missed that goal against port, maybe we don’t finish top 2 in 2018 and don’t get a flag.

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I actually really like that fixture. We could be something like 10-2 going into the bye assuming we drop the Launceston game and then finally drop a game against the pies at the G. Glad to be playing both tigers and cats on our turf
 
Fixture seems ok.

Geelong, Richmond, Collingwood, Giants, Essendon at home (some of whom we double up with). Brisbane, Bulldogs away. Seems a good split against finalists.

Brisbane and Dogs we play for the first time in Round 21 and 23, which is incredibly stupid. A few blockbusters mixed through, closing stretch looks ok before ramping up again late.

If we’re good enough it’s perfectly navigatable.
 

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