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I really can’t see Jack cracking it at the club and asking to leave. I had a cousin who played school football with Ben and said there is no chance any club would have drafted him if he was not a Silvagni. We gave him a crack and if he wants to keep going I am sure we will offer him a VFL spot with a view to promoting him if he improves.
No mention of contracts for Phillips or Moore? Likely to be gone too?
Though nor has Owies been mentioned?
Though nor has Owies been mentioned?
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He's top 50 in the AFL Player Ratings, 5th in a BnF for the Giants is a great result. Think about how many A-Graders they've had during his time:
Callan Ward
Jeremy Cameron
Heath Shaw
Toby Greene
Lachie Whitfield
Josh Kelly
Adam Treloar
Dylan Sheil
Stephen Coniglio
Ryan Griffen
I'm sure there's many more I'm forgetting too.
I think Williams slots in to our top few players, probably behind the likes of Cripps, Weitering and Walsh. I really think that our center bounce team of Cripps, Walsh and Williams is unreal. We can also rotate in players like Martin and Setterfield. Really exciting.
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So with projected media lists to be 38 & 2 our list signings don't add up?
We start with 46 + 3 Draftees + 3 Possible Trades or FA's.. So we would need to cut 12
The 10 signing today Plus the signing of (Listed OOC Footy Wire)
Likely - Betts,Williamson, Setterfield
Possibly - Macreadie. Phillips, Newnes & Kennedy
Only leaves possible
Kruezer (RET)
Simpson (RET)
B Silvagni (Delist)
Lang (Delist)
O'Dwyer (Delist)
Goddard (Delist)
Moore
Polson
Owies
That could only mean the club either
We start with 46 + 3 Draftees + 3 Possible Trades or FA's.. So we would need to cut 12
The 10 signing today Plus the signing of (Listed OOC Footy Wire)
Likely - Betts,Williamson, Setterfield
Possibly - Macreadie. Phillips, Newnes & Kennedy
Only leaves possible
Kruezer (RET)
Simpson (RET)
B Silvagni (Delist)
Lang (Delist)
O'Dwyer (Delist)
Goddard (Delist)
Moore
Polson
Owies
That could only mean the club either
- Know the list cuts are not going to be that bad
- We will be inactive in the trade period
- Will not have to draft 3
- Players are going to be traded.
We only have to draft max 2, as Gibbo was upgraded to the senior list. If they do cut list sizes then surely the reduce the mandatory draft pick requirements, probably to 2, so 1 for us.So with projected media lists to be 38 & 2 our list signings don't add up?
We start with 46 + 3 Draftees + 3 Possible Trades or FA's.. So we would need to cut 12
The 10 signing today Plus the signing of (Listed OOC Footy Wire)
Likely - Betts,Williamson, Setterfield
Possibly - Macreadie. Phillips, Newnes & Kennedy
Only leaves possible
Kruezer (RET)
Simpson (RET)
B Silvagni (Delist)
Lang (Delist)
O'Dwyer (Delist)
Goddard (Delist)
Moore
Polson
Owies
That could only mean the club either
- Know the list cuts are not going to be that bad
- We will be inactive in the trade period
- Will not have to draft 3
- Players are going to be traded.
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Would think it is most likely his Dad getting sacked and his Brother getting delisted... Probably just wants some clean air and to start again.
Hope we can convince him to stay
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So with projected media lists to be 38 & 2 our list signings don't add up?
We start with 46 + 3 Draftees + 3 Possible Trades or FA's.. So we would need to cut 12
The 10 signing today Plus the signing of (Listed OOC Footy Wire)
Likely - Betts,Williamson, Setterfield
Possibly - Macreadie. Phillips, Newnes & Kennedy
Only leaves possible
Kruezer (RET)
Simpson (RET)
B Silvagni (Delist)
Lang (Delist)
O'Dwyer (Delist)
Goddard (Delist)
Moore
Polson
Owies
That could only mean the club either
- Know the list cuts are not going to be that bad
- We will be inactive in the trade period
- Will not have to draft 3
- Players are going to be traded.
Best guess is this is the first wave of delistings.
Could be a logistics issue with the exit interviews.
Could be conditional on other player movement.
Highly doubt this is it.
Not for this to be a game, but in terms of further players to be de-listed, I'd have it in this order -
1. Polson - Sadly there's little more he can add if we do attain Saad...and even if not.
2. Owies - No need to rush him off, as he can have a third year on the Cat B list, but purely as a player, I'd have him next to go.
3. Betts - If we get anyone that can remotely play a good crumbing forward role....sorry Eddie.
4. Moore - I still think there are possibilities there but not forward.
5. Phillips - I'd be sorry to see him go, but I feel he may take too long to make good. If we can wait though....
6. Macreadie - He may well be first to go, but I just think there may be some regret somewhere down the line, should his body hold up.
1. Polson - Sadly there's little more he can add if we do attain Saad...and even if not.
2. Owies - No need to rush him off, as he can have a third year on the Cat B list, but purely as a player, I'd have him next to go.
3. Betts - If we get anyone that can remotely play a good crumbing forward role....sorry Eddie.
4. Moore - I still think there are possibilities there but not forward.
5. Phillips - I'd be sorry to see him go, but I feel he may take too long to make good. If we can wait though....
6. Macreadie - He may well be first to go, but I just think there may be some regret somewhere down the line, should his body hold up.
I really never saw it with Macreadle tbh.
Was one of those blokes that got games and did just ok but has always been talked up on here, like Adam Hartlett or Andrew McInnes.
Was one of those blokes that got games and did just ok but has always been talked up on here, like Adam Hartlett or Andrew McInnes.
I'd love to see it, but Samo needs to lift his running and physicality to Gibbons' level if he wants that spot.
Gibbons certainly covers more ground, but physicality?
And given how much we struggle with mid-forward transition, I'd take Samo's ball use way ahead of what Gibbo provides.
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What makes you think he's elite, or perhaps how many elite players do you think there are? To me he's probably on par with someone like Doc, which I wouldn't call elite. Perhaps I haven't seen enough of him.
I think we'd all prefer Samo to be in that spot - ditto LOB for Newnes, Dow/Stocker for Ed - the theme is the same across the park. We're not a development squad anymore.
Well, Samo is clearly in our best team. He's played 80 out of a maximum possible 83 games.
He's not a development player, I just don't think he's at his best in the backline.
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This can of worms. It’s like the A grader B grader talk.
For me Williams is far from elite, I wouldn’t have him in the top 50 players/prospects and i’d only call the top 20 or so elite. Others would only call the top 10.
In saying that I think he will be by far and away the best get in the league this offseason, all things considered.
We offered him the most money
He probably doesn't have a role unless he was to replace Ed as our tagger in 2022 & beyond
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According to who?
Everything I've read has North Melbourne offering significantly more.
Agree, finally started to quite composed and settled. Significant upside, big, quick and penetrative left peg.
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Scoops Maclure said in the Age our offer was bigger than Norf's, not sure how true that is though.
Would say yes to Parker
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