List Mgmt. 2020 Trade Targets

[OneGreatClub]

 

[MrChow]

I don’t mind the strategy to be a bit quieter this year.

If no-one of serious quality wants to come this year and our 18-22 and depth is better then anyone we could trade in, why bother forcing it. Easy to off load salary cap into the front end of next years contracts like Rozee, Butters, etc.

Also it’s a riskier draft considering the CoVid year, good call to limit the risks.

Besides Bonner, I don’t think we have anybody we want to or is worth trading - where trade value is higher than what they are worth. Unless someone wants Rocky, or Motlop or maybe even Hartlett for something ridiculous.

Honest, if we picked up Orazio and Allir, got rid of Bonner, recruited Jones, Schofield and a project key back I’d be fine with that.

 

[yepits2020]

Reading this thread brings images of Port picking over the bones of a carcass.

 

[Smithy7]

Ask Smithy7

It has already been answered. LOL

 

[RossFC]

How can you offer a contracted player a contract?

You can talk terms with any player, a trade still needs to be agreed.

 

[FishingRick04]

Well you used it for Hogan. That's about as broad reaching as it gets.

Sarcasm

 

[FishingRick04]

If we brought in a bigger defender I’d trade McKenzie.

I’d also trade Bonner for Fanta.

Garner for a points pick potentially also, his days appeared numbered due to depth in that position.

 

[JimmyBC]

If we brought in a bigger defender I’d trade McKenzie.

I’d also trade Bonner for Fanta.

Garner for a points pick potentially also, his days appeared numbered due to depth in that position.

Garner's as hard as a cats head I wouldn't be surprised if he's one that plays well elsewhere & gets us annoyed at the club.

 

[agmsy]

If we brought in a bigger defender I’d trade McKenzie.

We only just signed him up to a new two year deal ...

Garner's as hard as a cats head I wouldn't be surprised if he's one that plays well elsewhere & gets us annoyed at the club.

Seems good at the lockdown part of defending, but how's his rebound work?

 

[JUSTWORK]

We only just signed him up to a new two year deal ...



Seems good at the lockdown part of defending, but how's his rebound work?

Played a fair bit of midfield pre getting drafted didn't he ? Maybe time to push him up the ground a bit.

 

[Schulzenfest]

If we brought in a bigger defender I’d trade McKenzie.

I’d also trade Bonner for Fanta.

Garner for a points pick potentially also, his days appeared numbered due to depth in that position.

Agree with all of this.

Lachie Jones is just Garner but better. Hard to see Joel cracking the 22 any time soon now.

 

[Econopower]

The afl brought in 2 expan clubs, which smashed the ability of teams that should have been rising to stock draft talent, and free agency which allowed the teams at the top to stock up while geelong is still be fitting from a dodgy father son rule that allowed them to double dip and pick up Selwood while getting Hawkins for a 3rd rounder.

This just served to delay the top teams drop, as were now seeing with hawks

Cats turn will come.

It did for Hawthorn though Geelong have been defying the odds for longer. They have been helped by the recruitment of Dangerfield, the fact that their KPFs like Hawkins and Taylor are still going and playing well, and some very good drafting and player development over the years. Cameron will not only help extend their window but may make them a more popular destination for FAs in the future. Let’s face it, they are just a really well run club that also capitalises on natural/comp structure advantages.

 

[FutureShock]

I'd like to see something done that would enable McKenzie to play further up the ground. His strengths are being completely wasted forcing him play as a KPD.

 

[Rendaw]

I really wanted Garner to make it but it does seem like he is going to find it tough to crack the side

 

[Econopower]

Nothing mind blowing in the comments to follow but I think any good trading strategy should draw on the halo effects of good or bad team performance.

For example, when a team is performing well it elevates the status of everyone playing regularly for that team. The opposite is true when teams are underperforming.

But that creates an opportunity to buy players from poor teams ‘low’, sell ‘high’ when your own team is performing well (especially if there are players you know are benefiting from the system/performance of other team members) and avoid trading for average players from other high performers whose own value is being inflated.

I like the idea of trading for Allir because he fits the ideal of good player (at least in terms of our needs) in a poor team that we can probably get for good price or at least a not inflated one.

Liverpool have done this pretty well in recent years. Sold Coutinho for an inflated price. Bought players like Mane, Robertson, and Wijnaldum from weaker teams cheaply (relatively!). Kind of like the opposite Man United have done!

 

[Long live PAFC]

Riley Knight

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or Mitch O’Neill worth a look as DFAs?

 

[Granny Duurs is Lovely]

It did for Hawthorn though Geelong have been defying the odds for longer. They have been helped by the recruitment of Dangerfield, the fact that their KPFs like Hawkins and Taylor are still going and playing well, and some very good drafting and player development over the years. Cameron will not only help extend their window but may make them a more popular destination for FAs in the future. Let’s face it, they are just a really well run club that also capitalises on natural/comp structure advantages.

The thing that Geelong has in its favour is the massive amount of players produced in the region. This lets them draft players from other places whilst having intimate knowledge of the players under their nose at the falcons (or even the GFL in tom stewarts case) who might be interested in returning home at some point in the future if drafted interstate.

 

[Janus]

Geelong have legit been up for 10 years. I remember when it was when Chapman, Corey , Enright ect all retire

I've been waiting for them to drop for my whole adult life.

They artificially propped themselves up with FA and trading out first round picks while GWS hoovered up all the talent.

Dangerfield, Henderson, Tuohy, Ablett, Stanley. All brought in (or back) to prolong the length of time the Cats would stay up the top with that remaining core from 2007.

It will be the same with us when we start targeting Lukousis and Rankine to add to Burton, Marshall, Powell-Pepper, Drew, Houston, Hayes, Rozee, Butters, Duursma, Bergman, Georgiades, Williams, Mead, Jones and Schofield. It’ll seem like these guys have been playing forever and that Port is always around the mark like Geelong and Richmond.

When we don’t rate a draft, we’ll trade for players and the capital needed for F/S selections. I expect us to be up the top for the next ten years, and for Rankine to be Port’s “Dangerfield” in FA. Lukosius will be back earlier than that - Gold Coast is destined to never win a flag because no one cares about them.

 

[Comettski_1]

We were also a bit lucky with Schulz. Bigfooty treated him like Sam Gray

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/Sutcliffe in his early games here and oddly enough he eventually broke out and found his niche.

Port Adelaide - where marking on a lead and kicking straight is considered a “niche”

 

[MALTSY]

I really wanted Garner to make it but it does seem like he is going to find it tough to crack the side

Agreed. He is also one-paced.

 

[Ford Fairlane]

The thing that Geelong has in its favour is the massive amount of players produced in the region. This lets them draft players from other places whilst having intimate knowledge of the players under their nose at the falcons (or even the GFL in tom stewarts case) who might be interested in returning home at some point in the future if drafted interstate.

And the sanfl stripped us of that advantage.

 

[Econopower]

The thing that Geelong has in its favour is the massive amount of players produced in the region. This lets them draft players from other places whilst having intimate knowledge of the players under their nose at the falcons (or even the GFL in tom stewarts case) who might be interested in returning home at some point in the future if drafted interstate.

Yeah, that was one of the natural advantages I was referring to...

 

[robbo1981]

And the sanfl stripped us of that advantage.

We have had our hands tied behind our back ever since we joined the AFL makes me sick.

 

[jac147]

Because the only reason why he’s going to Geelong is to play with Dangerfield, Selwood and Hawkins for a couple of years.

Personally I’d be heading to Port if I wanted sustained on field success. When those guys go Cameron will be stuck at a club that doesn’t have talent like Marshall, Georgiades, Rozee, Butters, Duursma, Burton, Ladhams etc pushing through because they kept trading out first round picks to get a flag.

Everyone knows they need a two forward attack:

Brisbane - Hipwood and Daniher
Geelong - Cameron and Hawkins
Richmond - Reiwoldt and Lynch
Port - Marshall and Dixon

If we want to take the next step, Todd Marshall

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has to step up and be the wingman to Dixon instead of the decoy. The time for excuses is over.

Spot on - in comic book terms, Charlie is Batman and Todd is Robin, always there as the faithful sidekick, till one day when Charlie goes to that great Batman retirement village in the sky and Todd will step up and be Batman with Georgie as his ever faithful companion, Robin. Always there by his side and never far-away. Hell, Georgie could even be “Apprentice Robin” for a while!
It’s that simple!

 

[Jojay]

We have had our hands tied behind our back ever since we joined the AFL makes me sick.

The hatred, envy, jealousy is so deep seated and goes so far back, it'll never change.

Crikey, look at who the crows have as their new chairman.