He does.Boo, come on be brave and have a crack. Do a KM, “He plays like a combo of Judd, Ablett and Voss” next minute goes pick 37.
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I think it’s going to be pretty important that we add something to our midfield this off season. Hopefully some speed and/or class. While our forwardline is benefiting from adding Joe our midfield hasn’t been as damaging as it has been the last couple of years. Our backline is also missing an element to really punish when teams turn the ball over in their forwardline
IMO we’ve slipped back from being a genuine premiership threat. The Bulldogs and Melbourne have jumped up to a level above us and Geelong have moved further ahead of. Richmond still a more credible finals threat when they’re not riddled with injuries.
F: McCarthy Hipwood Cameron
HF: Zorko Daniher Rayner
C: McCluggage Neale ?????
HB: Rich Payne ?????
B: Starcevich Andrews Gardiner
Foll: McInerney Lyons Bailey
Bench: McStay, Berry, ?????, ?????
IMO we’ve slipped back from being a genuine premiership threat. The Bulldogs and Melbourne have jumped up to a level above us and Geelong have moved further ahead of. Richmond still a more credible finals threat when they’re not riddled with injuries.
F: McCarthy Hipwood Cameron
HF: Zorko Daniher Rayner
C: McCluggage Neale ?????
HB: Rich Payne ?????
B: Starcevich Andrews Gardiner
Foll: McInerney Lyons Bailey
Bench: McStay, Berry, ?????, ?????
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F McCarthy Daniher Cameron
HF Coleman Hipwood McStay
C McCluggage Neale Bailey
HB Starcevich Adams Lester
B Rich Andrews Gardiner
Foll: McInerney Lyons Zorko
Bench Rayner Berry Robertson Madden
Not sure we need for much actually not sure we are far off we’ve played the top 3 teams all away games this year so looking forward to Thursday night to see how much we really are off the best teams got to remember we only just lost to Geelong on they’re home ground
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So your banking on improvement coming from Coleman, Robertson and Madden?
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All have been fantastic this year I would back them all in to improve with more games
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Still not sure we are completely settled on the extra small forward.
With both Berry and Coleman inconsistent.
Wondering if we could give Ben Ainsworth a go.
He would fit quite nicely into our forward line.
Does he fit the no Dickhead policy?
With both Berry and Coleman inconsistent.
Wondering if we could give Ben Ainsworth a go.
He would fit quite nicely into our forward line.
Does he fit the no Dickhead policy?
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I think Rayner and Zorko playing forward and rotating on the ball as well as Bailey and Clug rotating on the ball into the forward line are the extra small forwards.
Ah Chee, TBerry and Coleman have been the Rayner replacements without being able to play midfield.
Agree with the majority of your thoughts. It just goes to show you how a club has to constantly continue to tinker with their list for that continual improvement. In saying that I would rather be where we are at now than years ago. We are close and we will play off in another finals series.
I still see improvement in so many of our younger players 23 and under which is exciting however there are some important players coming to their twilight like Rich and Zorko.
I agree with the front half looking set and we stilll have Rayner to come back and roll through there and the midfield.
Hopium tells me that Berry and Rayner will be big additions next year to help with the heavy lifting as it really does seem like it is left to just Zorko, Neale, Lyons and McCluggage to do all of the hard work. Dev has been pleasing and he could be that person but one should always be building a midfield.
Our backhalf though worries me. The knly concern is that we are around the mark final/premiership wise and your back six really needs to be rock solid. I hope they leave Madden in there to develop as he is that point of difference and has shown with his speed that defensively he can help cover those fast turnovers into our backhalf.
I’ve previously said mid, HBF and KDP (Payne has been injured a lot and Adams also) and I still sit with that.
I had a watch of the Sandy v Oakleigh game Briztoon posted on the previous page. For those wanting to see the best of Ashcroft it is best to watch the first quarter. When they are on top he looks exceptionally good.
In that game he played virtually exclusively as an inside mid with some very limited time up forward. First for the good stuff. He is strong and balanced and has a nice burst of pace. When he is at full pace he works his way through traffic and can burst through tackles. He has very clean hands below the knee and they are pretty quick from what I saw. He is a leader in the Sandy team especially at centre bounces where he organises his mids. He seems to have a good understanding of the game and is vocal on the field. He is a right footer with solid skills. On limited viewing his vision and decision making seem very good. He is a very capable tackler and had a couple of nice chase down tackles in the first in that game vision but after that most were ones which you would expect him to make in tight. When he is up and going he looks like a star.
Now for the bad. Watching that game his defensive effort annoyed the hell out of me. At the moment he seems to have a superstar attitude where defense is something for his teammates. His defensive run is very poor and a few times with guys in the area he could pressure he continued to just slow jog rather than work to close space. Overall I would say his workrate is the thing which needs to improve the most. Even offensively he does not get to space well enough (at least after the first quarter) and seems content to just go from contest to contest. In the contests themselves, Oakleigh were very careful to always get a body on him and push him out of behind. He did not work through it well and was too often not in a position to win the ball. He needs to learn to work through attention.
As far as comparisons go he has a heap of Voss in him but he needs to improve his workrate if he is going to live up to his potential.
In that game he played virtually exclusively as an inside mid with some very limited time up forward. First for the good stuff. He is strong and balanced and has a nice burst of pace. When he is at full pace he works his way through traffic and can burst through tackles. He has very clean hands below the knee and they are pretty quick from what I saw. He is a leader in the Sandy team especially at centre bounces where he organises his mids. He seems to have a good understanding of the game and is vocal on the field. He is a right footer with solid skills. On limited viewing his vision and decision making seem very good. He is a very capable tackler and had a couple of nice chase down tackles in the first in that game vision but after that most were ones which you would expect him to make in tight. When he is up and going he looks like a star.
Now for the bad. Watching that game his defensive effort annoyed the hell out of me. At the moment he seems to have a superstar attitude where defense is something for his teammates. His defensive run is very poor and a few times with guys in the area he could pressure he continued to just slow jog rather than work to close space. Overall I would say his workrate is the thing which needs to improve the most. Even offensively he does not get to space well enough (at least after the first quarter) and seems content to just go from contest to contest. In the contests themselves, Oakleigh were very careful to always get a body on him and push him out of behind. He did not work through it well and was too often not in a position to win the ball. He needs to learn to work through attention.
As far as comparisons go he has a heap of Voss in him but he needs to improve his workrate if he is going to live up to his potential.
My view is that going to the draft is about building for the future.
Very few draftees are going to contribute at a significant level in their first couple of years.
But we need to get games in to them, preferably in the best 22 for the best of them, to fast track their development.
I believe we have a limited window while Neale, Zorko and Rich are still playing. So it’s hard to play many young kids while going for a flag, but we need to develop the likes of Robertson, Prior, Madden and Coleman, to avoid a significant dip when Neale, Zorko and Rich retire or can no longer compete at their best.
Very few draftees are going to contribute at a significant level in their first couple of years.
But we need to get games in to them, preferably in the best 22 for the best of them, to fast track their development.
I believe we have a limited window while Neale, Zorko and Rich are still playing. So it’s hard to play many young kids while going for a flag, but we need to develop the likes of Robertson, Prior, Madden and Coleman, to avoid a significant dip when Neale, Zorko and Rich retire or can no longer compete at their best.
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Sounds very promising and work rate/attitude is at least something that can be rectified
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With the bad bits, you wuld think being in an AFL environment that they would make his workrate improve. Also, do you think having a higher fitness base would help with his defensive efforts which would aslo come with multiple pre-seasons?
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Which i think we are doing really well. We are winning plenty of games, up in the premmiership contentions while still giving games to Robertson, Madden, Prior, Coleman and to a lesser extent Berry, T. Although it annoys me that T.Berry is the substitute for so many gmaes, doesn't play but still gets games added to his career in which he doesn't learn anything.
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I think a higher fitness base would be huge for his work rate, could see at the start of quarters and also when he first comes off the bench he seems to work a bit harder then slows down a bit. The most exciting thing for me is that he still has another 18 or so months to work on his tank and other areas for improvement. The fact he’s doing this already against older competition is a really good sign for me
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And the fact that he is getting attention - not a tag - should bode well if he ever has to get tagged in AFL
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I wonder if we could get J Impey from Hawthorn to replace Birchell in the next year or two? He is 25 years old.
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Highly doubtful.
Jacob Hopper anyone?
https://sydneynewstoday.com/contrac...-harry-mckay-bruce-jake-koroja-shniji/210983/
Giants midfielder Jacob Hopper isn’t in a hurry to re-contract with the club and will postpone contract negotiations until the end of the season.
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Another option could be Sam Petrevski-Seton, maybe he could fulfil his potential with us.
https://sydneynewstoday.com/contrac...-harry-mckay-bruce-jake-koroja-shniji/210983/
Giants midfielder Jacob Hopper isn’t in a hurry to re-contract with the club and will postpone contract negotiations until the end of the season.
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Another option could be Sam Petrevski-Seton, maybe he could fulfil his potential with us.
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"will postpone contract negotiations until the end of the season"
We all know what this means..
We all know what this means..
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Yes please.
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Hopper will probably get 850 from a vic club, but yeah, sign me up if it’s even a remote possibility.
He already left Port to return to Victoria. Why would he leave?
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If we're throwing unlikely to happen wishes in, I'd take a run at Jordan Dawson. Probably not the speedy rebounding defender people claim we need but is excellent in the air and has a good kick.
Can't see him leaving but the Swans are apparently tight on the cap this year (the last couple of buddy years taking their toll), and I know Adelaide have been reported as willing to offer him a lot as he's from SA originally.
Can't see him leaving but the Swans are apparently tight on the cap this year (the last couple of buddy years taking their toll), and I know Adelaide have been reported as willing to offer him a lot as he's from SA originally.
Carlton that’s were they all go before the scrap heap
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