Analysis 2021 draft thread

[mattsmob]

Is that the video where he talks about his hits AND misses? Or are you talking about a different one? Genuine question. Everyone has the right to their own opinion, but I don't like the pile on and think for the work he has done over the years he deserves a lot more respect than what he is getting on here. Surely if he hasn't watched particular kids, he needs to base his opinion off something? I never like purely relying on stats, but better than nothing.

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Personally I feel like I've been pretty fair along with most others, I don't particularly care either way about the youtube titles or the way he words certain things. My main point was that I disagree with how much weight he puts into certain aspects when evaluating talent, I'm not saying I'm right and he's wrong but we just value different things in prospects. I don't believe stats alone and contested possession numbers should be weighted as highly for example. Also just on the last bit I'd say no opinion is better than just guesses based off stats.

 

[briztoon]

I can see the points you are making, but with all due respect, you are stating a lot of things as fact here. In your opinion most of the pile ons have been valid, but I disagree.
I would tend to think that if a player has a very high contested ball rate that it's a fair call to say they are a contested bull. I don't feel that's an outlandish statement. Are there many players that have a very high contested rate that you wouldn't give this label to? Anyway, not trying to start a sh!t fight or anything, I just feel he deserves more respect for the work that he does than what he has received lately on this board.

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In this year’s draft, WA’s Josh Browne.

Most of the stuff I stated is what he has been caught out for.

 

[JasRulz63]

Cal Twomey's 2021 Phantom Draft: Top 30, late picks, club whispers

Who will your club take in this year's NAB AFL Draft? Our guru makes the call

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Wilmot and JVR.

Goater at 21.

 

[jackess]

A couple of pretty boring picks but suits our needs and with midfielders coming next season

 

[briztoon]

I hope Banks makes it to our third pick, but I don’t believe he will.

 

[blueiris]

A couple of meh picks with no real ex-factor between them with players like Sonsie Chesser and Goater still available

 

[Section 5]

I hope Goater is still available at 16

 

[briztoon]

I hope Goater is still available at 16

He was available at both our picks in Twomey’s phantom draft, and we passed on him twice.

 

[Soren Lorenson]

So when exactly is this thing?

 

[blueiris]

So when exactly is this thing?

Wednesday night at 7:30 pm EST

 

[Dalions]

He was available at both our picks in Twomey’s phantom draft, and we passed on him twice.

It’s just a phantom.
But I did have a funny feeling that Goater was the one falling away.
I guess we will find out in 48 hrs.

 

[Cubs2Lions]

So when exactly is this thing?

Wednesday night at 7:30 pm EST

AFL Draft 2021: Start Time, List Lodgement, Rookie Draft

The 2021 NAB AFL Draft is fast approaching, so how will it all work, and what else is to come?

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The first round of the National Draft is at Wednesday night at 7.30pm EST while the rest of the picks of the National Draft will be done on Thursday night at the same time, before the Pre-Season/Rookie Draft concludes the draft week and that commences at 2.30pm EST on the Friday.

 

[mattsmob]

He was available at both our picks in Twomey’s phantom draft, and we passed on him twice.

I'd imagine any information clubs are giving him past the first few picks should be taken with a grain of salt and it feels like this year he's been putting out disclaimers about how tough it's been so he doesn't seem confident in it himself.

 

[Knightmare]

Seems like Knightmare is copping a bit of stick around here. Comments about how he is going for clickbait and that he claims to be a better talent evaluator than EVERY club recruiter etc are pretty harsh imo.
I like the fact that he sticks to his guns and is happy to go away from the crowd at times. I run a YouTube channel and the titles of your videos are extremely important to generate views. I don't think the majority of KM titles are clickbait material. He puts a lot of work into what he does. You don't have to agree with his opinions, that's fine. But seems to me like a few too many unwarranted cheap shots are getting thrown around.
No offence, but I'd back his opinion over anybody on this board. Just my two cents.

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The purpose of my YouTube initially was with the idea to learn how to make videos. Develop a new skill. During lockdowns and with so little footy happening. I felt like that would be a good opportunity for personal growth as most of my work with ESPN has been written.

In terms of the content on my YouTube, what I put up there is really designed to be a complement to what I do for ESPN and as an opportunity for people to enjoy unique draft content and takes and as a thank you to all those who read my content and engage with me.

Since starting my YouTube channel and getting to know more recently some of the content producers, a personal goal of mine is actually to grow the AFL YouTube space more broadly as I'd like for passionate content creators to be able to create careers for themselves talking football. It would be great if it becomes a go-to spot to get some quality AFL thoughts, whichever part of AFL coverage it is - be it U18s/state leagues/fantasy football/AFL game analysis etc.

A lot of what you read in the newspapers, see on tv, see on some media publications, all those front story headlines, it's not football analysis and so much of it hurts interest in the AFL. So anyone with a genuine passion for the game and produce content that helps promote the of football engagement rather than creating content detrimental to the growth of the game have my support. That's the direction I'd like to see more media around the AFL moving.

On the idea that I'm better than AFL recruiters. My record with selecting key position players over the years has on average been favourable, but I have work to put in to better than across all other types through the draft. And ultimately, my record is out there for people to pick apart as they desire. I've completed a video going through my biggest hits and misses where I cover in depth the learnings I've gained over time and hopefully that helps others develop as junior talent watchers if interested in developing their junior talent ID skills. And I'd encourage those others interested in the draft to really inwardly analyse where they can get better, and look back at drafts past to learn valuable lessons. This year one of my key learnings has been in how undervalued mature agers are in doing my own analysis. And it's something I'll dive much deeper into on YouTube over the coming months/years to really show how incomplete ones view of the draft is if all they're doing is watching the u18s.

The selections of clubs are ultimately the measuring stick for my power rankings and something I'm always actively working to improve against and create edges against, to find players who are good that they're not rating as highly as I believe they should, or avoiding those players I feel might be a trap as early as clubs are thinking. I'm that sort of competitive person. If I'm putting together power rankings, I don't see the point of putting it together looking like a phantom draft. There is no originality to that and it's not really a true expression of what you've been watching and too much relying on what others are thinking and feeling. I separate myself from that noise and watch as much football as I can to guide my own opinions. By doing so, the edge is gives me is it allows me to make observations that are unique to what others may be expressing and hopefully encourage further free thinking about what opportunities there are for improvement rather than just following the status quo.

And ultimately for those hoping to break into the industry, this is advice I received from a now AFL National Recruiting Manager and why I'm of the mindset I am around having such unique power rankings. Clubs don't want to know you rate who everyone else is rating. There is no value in talking to you if that's what you're doing. They want to know who you rate that they don't, and who you would pass on that they're into. They want to know what's different on your board, rather than what's the same. That's what's interesting to them. Because they're ultimately those opportunities to either secure superior value at a particular selection or avoid someone who really shouldn't be going so early.

 

[jackess]

With Goaters selection by Fremantle he mentioned he had family in WA. Maybe he's a flight risk for us

 

[blueiris]

With Goaters selection by Fremantle he mentioned he had family in WA. Maybe he's a flight risk for us

Van Rooyan is probably a flight risk we need to back in our team

 

[Dalions]

If the rest of Twomeys selections work out somewhere close I am hoping Port take Goater over Sinn.

 

[Daniels Riches]

The purpose of my YouTube initially was with the idea to learn how to make videos. Develop a new skill. During lockdowns and with so little footy happening. I felt like that would be a good opportunity for personal growth as most of my work with ESPN has been written.

In terms of the content on my YouTube, what I put up there is really designed to be a complement to what I do for ESPN and as an opportunity for people to enjoy unique draft content and takes and as a thank you to all those who read my content and engage with me.

Since starting my YouTube channel and getting to know more recently some of the content producers, a personal goal of mine is actually to grow the AFL YouTube space more broadly as I'd like for passionate content creators to be able to create careers for themselves talking football. It would be great if it becomes a go-to spot to get some quality AFL thoughts, whichever part of AFL coverage it is - be it U18s/state leagues/fantasy football/AFL game analysis etc.

A lot of what you read in the newspapers, see on tv, see on some media publications, all those front story headlines, it's not football analysis and so much of it hurts interest in the AFL. So anyone with a genuine passion for the game and produce content that helps promote the of football engagement rather than creating content detrimental to the growth of the game have my support. That's the direction I'd like to see more media around the AFL moving.

On the idea that I'm better than AFL recruiters. My record with selecting key position players over the years has on average been favourable, but I have work to put in to better than across all other types through the draft. And ultimately, my record is out there for people to pick apart as they desire. I've completed a video going through my biggest hits and misses where I cover in depth the learnings I've gained over time and hopefully that helps others develop as junior talent watchers if interested in developing their junior talent ID skills. And I'd encourage those others interested in the draft to really inwardly analyse where they can get better, and look back at drafts past to learn valuable lessons. This year one of my key learnings has been in how undervalued mature agers are in doing my own analysis. And it's something I'll dive much deeper into on YouTube over the coming months/years to really show how incomplete ones view of the draft is if all they're doing is watching the u18s.

The selections of clubs are ultimately the measuring stick for my power rankings and something I'm always actively working to improve against and create edges against, to find players who are good that they're not rating as highly as I believe they should, or avoiding those players I feel might be a trap as early as clubs are thinking. I'm that sort of competitive person. If I'm putting together power rankings, I don't see the point of putting it together looking like a phantom draft. There is no originality to that and it's not really a true expression of what you've been watching and too much relying on what others are thinking and feeling. I separate myself from that noise and watch as much football as I can to guide my own opinions. By doing so, the edge is gives me is it allows me to make observations that are unique to what others may be expressing and hopefully encourage further free thinking about what opportunities there are for improvement rather than just following the status quo.

And ultimately for those hoping to break into the industry, this is advice I received from a now AFL National Recruiting Manager and why I'm of the mindset I am around having such unique power rankings. Clubs don't want to know you rate who everyone else is rating. There is no value in talking to you if that's what you're doing. They want to know who you rate that they don't, and who you would pass on that they're into. They want to know what's different on your board, rather than what's the same. That's what's interesting to them. Because they're ultimately those opportunities to either secure superior value at a particular selection or avoid someone who really shouldn't be going so early.

Yeah I really enjoyed the hits and misses video Chris. Think some people on this board would benefit from watching it. Loving your work mate, keep up the great analysis

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[Johnny Bananas]

With Goaters selection by Fremantle he mentioned he had family in WA. Maybe he's a flight risk for us

Everyone is a potential flight risk unless they were raised in Queensland. And even then, who knows, maybe they get a partner from interstate who wants to move back.

 

[jackess]

Everyone is a potential flight risk unless they were raised in Queensland. And even then, who knows, maybe they get a partner from interstate who wants to move back.

Yes it's a moving scale but perhaps it will influence our drafting

 

[damo72]

Yes it's a moving scale but perhaps it will influence our drafting

There is prob a reduced flight risk overall with us being in the VFL....least someone who is from interstate (vic at least) and is developing in the 2's will have an opportunity to see their friends and families....every little bit helps I guess

 

[Cubs2Lions]

Cal Twomey's 2021 Phantom Draft: Top 30, late picks, club whispers

Who will your club take in this year's NAB AFL Draft? Our guru makes the call

www.afl.com.au

Pick 16 - Darcy Wilmot
POS: Defender
Ht 183cm, Wt 76kg, DOB 30/12/03
From: Northern Knights/Vic Metro

Darcy Wilmot has become a player in demand with a number of clubs interested in him in the second half of the first round of picks. The tenacious half-back plays with vigour and resolve in defence and enjoys taking the game on as well as stopping his direct opponents. Can mark the ball as well as tuck it under his arm and burst out of defence. The Lions have been looking for more rebounding defenders in recent years.

If not him? If Josh Sinn got through he would be a big consideration, while Blake Howes, Sam Butler

Multiple players found. Use birthday to differentiate. eg [PLAYERCARD="23/11/1962"]Joe Smith[/PLAYERCARD]

, Campbell Chesser and Tom Brown are others who clubs believe will be in the mix at this stage.
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Pick 20 - Jacob van Rooyen
POS: Defender/forward
Ht 193cm, Wt 91kg, DOB 16/4/03
From: Claremont/Western Australia

Jacob van Rooyen booted 24 goals in the final six games of the colts season as a key forward but it is in defence where many clubs see the swingman's future. The Claremont product is a tireless worker and competitor, giving him an advantage as a key-position player at either end. The Lions could look to beef up their key-position stocks in van Rooyen.

If not him? Campbell Chesser could be a shot here, but it might depend on if they get a half-back with their first pick. Blake Howes is another possibility if the cards fall a certain way, with Sam Butler

Multiple players found. Use birthday to differentiate. eg [PLAYERCARD="23/11/1962"]Joe Smith[/PLAYERCARD]

also a chance.
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Pick 41 Selection Whispers
Brisbane's business will mainly be done early, with the Lions set to have only one more pick after their pair of first-round selections. If sharp goalkicker Kai Lohmann happened to be on the board at their third pick he would be a consideration, while Eamon Wilkinson, a small forward who they considered at the mid-season rookie draft, has also garnered some interest. Bryce Watson is a medium defender who could be within a shot late, as may Jamieson Ballantyne, a taller wingman from the Greater Western Victoria Rebels.

 

[Johnny Bananas]

Hey Knightmare, thanks for stopping by. I know you're big on identifying mature age talent who could make it at the top level. Section 5 and I were discussing Jack Hayes before. What are your thoughts on his ability to make it as a utility?

 

[jackess]

If Sinn is available at Ports pick I'd be pretty keen to trade up. Big gap between Sinn and Wilmot IMO

Would do 16 and 20 for 14 and their future second (maybe a late pick this year as well)

 

[briztoon]

Twomey mentioned GWS have put their pick 13 on the table for a future first round pick.

Would basically mean moving our 2023 first round pick in to this year’s draft.