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[enobrien]

My 3 Year Average theory was a bust in the Mids unfortunately with 5 of the current Top 8 (Mid Only's) not featuring in last years Top25 Mids for highest 3 Year Averages and all up 18 of this years top 30 averaging Mids listed below weren't in the Top40 overall 3 year averages.

Parish #3
Steele #4
Lyons #5
Miller #6
Walsh #8
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Guthrie #10
Cunnington #12
Wines #14
Boak #15
Mundy #17
Brayshaw #18
Selwood #19
Libba #20
Taranto #21
Keays #24
McCluggage #26
Greenwood #27
JOM #30



Not sure if the formula needs a tweak or not since this is Steele & Lyons 2nd consecutive SP season so both should feature prominently in next year list, whilst Touk & Walsh might even be close to next years Top15 mids by 3 Year average as well. Definitely been a changing of the guard type season as far as Uber & SP Mids go. It will be interesting to see if Parish in particular can back it up next year once Shiel/McGrath/Caldwell come back in or whether Rowell's rise will help or hinder Touk. Walsh should also cop a lot more attention from here on and will need to learn to handle the hard tag. Interesting times ahead.

Bont, Macrae, Steele. Lock the mother****ers in.

 

[enobrien]

Goodbye Callum, Rory and Lachie, thanks for 2021.

Dont count Mills/Laird out. Both at 112 avg this year and would be 9th/11th mids for total pts hypothetically. Can only see both improving as they are only fairly new to the full time mid role. Laird isn't as old as you think.

 

[Maybe Tomorrow]

Bont, Macrae, Steele. Lock the motherf***ers in.

Lyons the other lock for me. The campaigner doesn't have bad games, 14/15 tonnes this year. Same as Macrae.

 

[enobrien]

Lyons the other lock for me. The campaigner doesn't have bad games, 14/15 tonnes this year. Same as Macrae.

I would’ve said the same but I’ll take a discounted Neale over him. Not to mention hes 29 in a couple weeks, older than I thought

 

[stevebbb]

I would’ve said the same but I’ll take a discounted Neale over him. Not to mention hes 29 in a couple weeks, older than I thought

Agree. Neale with a full pre season is close to a lock priced around the 100-105 mark

 

[ImissFrosty]

Feel like rookies could be interesting next year, we've got two nailed on, Sam Walsh

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Sam Walsh

Age

24

Ht

184cm

Wt

84kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

25.1

5star

K

13.5

5star

HB

11.6

5star

M

5.1

5star

T

3.2

5star

CL

3.4

5star

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D

26.2

5star

K

15.4

5star

HB

10.8

5star

M

6.0

5star

T

3.2

5star

CL

4.8

5star

/Matt Rowell

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Matt Rowell

Age

23

Ht

180cm

Wt

82kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.4

4star

K

7.6

3star

HB

9.8

5star

M

0.8

1star

T

5.2

5star

CL

3.8

5star

D

17.4

4star

K

7.6

3star

HB

9.8

5star

M

0.8

1star

T

5.2

5star

CL

3.8

5star

D

17.4

5star

K

7.6

3star

HB

9.8

5star

M

0.8

1star

T

5.2

5star

CL

3.8

5star

level rookies in Horne and Daicos who should both play every game for North and Collingwood respectively, Horne may even get mid/fwd dpp. Problem is that they'll both be 200k+ and could heavily dictate team structure. Jacob Edwards at r3 is a lock you'd think if he plays. If JUH doesn't play the rest of the year then I wonder what price he'll be. Hollands for gold coast, what discount does he get? Anybody drafted to Collingwood, North, Adelaide, Hawthorn will be looked at I'm sure. Bowey for Melbourne if he doesn't play this year, plenty of 2020 draftees still to play.

 

[Andrew Birch]

Wonder where the rookies will be next year, hopefully there are a few good defenders so we can start more evenly spread. It worked out OK this year with Ziebell/Impey/Daniher being so cheap up forward. Might not be so lucky next year.

The articles on this year's draft that I have read suggest there will be a lot of mid's in the first round, so it could be the year to start one short in midfield and load up on rookies there. Lots of mid/fwd's would be lovely.

Anyway early thinking would be

Def: Ridley, Stewart, Luko d/m is interesting, Sicily depending on his discount hawks have a few good players in his role though.
Mid: Macrae, Lyons, Steele locks, then 1 or 2 more of Parish/Miller/Bont/Neale/Walsh. Noah Anderson a break out chance, especially with eyes on Rowell. Mrouch depending on price.
Ruck: Grundy, Darcy, no Max unless Jackson goes down LTI.
Fwd: Dunks (doubt he's a fwd) Danger, Marshall, Jackson, English all possible, the year of the R/F. Butters, Rozee if fit.

Hopefully Jake Bowey doesn't debut this year. Been an Emergency a few times. Racking up big numbers in the VFL and is an excellent ball user across half back. There isn't a spot for him in the best 22 at the moment but if he finds his way into the side for Rd1 he'll be a $124k lock.

 

[Maybe Tomorrow]

Feel like rookies could be interesting next year, we've got two nailed on, Sam Walsh/Matt Rowell level rookies in Horne and Daicos who should both play every game for North and Collingwood respectively, Horne may even get mid/fwd dpp. Problem is that they'll both be 200k+ and could heavily dictate team structure. Jacob Edwards at r3 is a lock you'd think if he plays. If JUH doesn't play the rest of the year then I wonder what price he'll be. Hollands for gold coast, what discount does he get? Anybody drafted to Collingwood, North, Adelaide, Hawthorn will be looked at I'm sure. Bowey for Melbourne if he doesn't play this year, plenty of 2020 draftees still to play.

Rankine was pick 3 and didn't play in his first year, then priced at 124k his second year. Would expect Hollands to be the same, although he's likely to play this year unfortunately (for SC). JUH who knows, maybe $124k also if we are lucky.

 

[Maybe Tomorrow]

Hopefully Jake Bowey doesn't debut this year. Been an Emergency a few times. Racking up big numbers in the VFL and is an excellent ball user across half back. There isn't a spot for him in the best 22 at the moment but if he finds his way into the side for Rd1 he'll be a $124k lock.

Wouldn't think the Dee's will be giving rookies games just for the sake of it this year. Hopefully he's not spoiled for next year, the more rookies the better!

 

[Maybe Tomorrow]

I would’ve said the same but I’ll take a discounted Neale over him. Not to mention hes 29 in a couple weeks, older than I thought

So he can be a SP at 28, but not 29? Don't think that will matter. He had a slow start to his career, so less likely to burn out early anyway.

Agree about Neale. As long as he's fit round 1 that is, very banged up this year.

 

[A Bit Dusty]

Rankine was pick 3 and didn't play in his first year, then priced at 124k his second year. Would expect Hollands to be the same, although he's likely to play this year unfortunately (for SC). JUH who knows, maybe $124k also if we are lucky.

I'm not sure how the come up with the prices CCJ was $161,200 and was drafted 2nd round pick in 2017. He only played 1 game in 2019 so I don't know how they came up with that starting price.

 

[Andrew Birch]

Feel like rookies could be interesting next year, we've got two nailed on, Sam Walsh/Matt Rowell level rookies in Horne and Daicos who should both play every game for North and Collingwood respectively, Horne may even get mid/fwd dpp. Problem is that they'll both be 200k+ and could heavily dictate team structure. Jacob Edwards at r3 is a lock you'd think if he plays. If JUH doesn't play the rest of the year then I wonder what price he'll be. Hollands for gold coast, what discount does he get? Anybody drafted to Collingwood, North, Adelaide, Hawthorn will be looked at I'm sure. Bowey for Melbourne if he doesn't play this year, plenty of 2020 draftees still to play.

If JUH and Holland don't play this year they will both be $123.9k the same as every other 2nd year uncapped rookie regardless of what number they were drafted at or what price they were this year.

 

[Maybe Tomorrow]

My 3 Year Average theory was a bust in the Mids unfortunately with 5 of the current Top 8 (Mid Only's) not featuring in last years Top25 Mids for highest 3 Year Averages and all up 18 of this years top 30 averaging Mids listed below weren't in the Top40 overall 3 year averages.

Parish #3
Steele #4
Lyons #5
Miller #6
Walsh #8
---------------
Guthrie #10
Cunnington #12
Wines #14
Boak #15
Mundy #17
Brayshaw #18
Selwood #19
Libba #20
Taranto #21
Keays #24
McCluggage #26
Greenwood #27
JOM #30



Not sure if the formula needs a tweak or not since this is Steele & Lyons 2nd consecutive SP season so both should feature prominently in next year list, whilst Touk & Walsh might even be close to next years Top15 mids by 3 Year average as well. Definitely been a changing of the guard type season as far as Uber & SP Mids go. It will be interesting to see if Parish in particular can back it up next year once Shiel/McGrath/Caldwell come back in or whether Rowell's rise will help or hinder Touk. Walsh should also cop a lot more attention from here on and will need to learn to handle the hard tag. Interesting times ahead.

Not sure the theory is a bust, COVID season skewed things a bit. I think it's a good start point, then factor in other things like age/role and KOTD.

I think the rule changes have had an effect to, less stopages, so hard running players doing better maybe.

 

[Maybe Tomorrow]

I'm not sure how the come up with the prices CCJ was $161,200 and was drafted 2nd round pick in 2017. He only played 1 game in 2019 so I don't know how they came up with that starting price.

I think they pull them out of their arse.

Would love it if rookies that don't have a price change started at the same price the following year. This game is tricky enough, that would make it slightly easier. And I doubt there would be that many rookies it effects anyway.

 

[enobrien]

So he can be a SP at 28, but not 29? Don't think that will matter. He had a slow start to his career, so less likely to burn out early anyway.

Agree about Neale. As long as he's fit round 1 that is, very banged up this year.

Not what I mean, but I’ll just have others in the 25-26 bracket ahead. Can’t start them all.

 

[Hamez]

Here2tellyouwhy

 

[Here2tellyouwhy]

Here2tellyouwhy

Hurn can never die.

Will still tonne up next year in the SANFL

 

[St Steady]

only discovered this loopholing bizo this yr, prob loopholed my C 3 times

for those of you that use it regularly/weekly , how many points do you reckon

a) loopholing Captain is worth a year
b) loopholing rookie/bench ones (i havent tried this one yet)

obviously depends on lots of things, just want a rough guide on what optimising these features is potentially worth

 

[toxic]

only discovered this loopholing bizo this yr, prob loopholed my C 3 times

for those of you that use it regularly/weekly , how many points do you reckon

a) loopholing Captain is worth a year
b) loopholing rookie/bench ones (i havent tried this one yet)

obviously depends on lots of things, just want a rough guide on what optimising these features is potentially worth

1000

 

[SC fish]

only discovered this loopholing bizo this yr, prob loopholed my C 3 times

for those of you that use it regularly/weekly , how many points do you reckon

a) loopholing Captain is worth a year
b) loopholing rookie/bench ones (i havent tried this one yet)

obviously depends on lots of things, just want a rough guide on what optimising these features is potentially worth

Difficult to quantify in general terms but it basically gives you insurance against a poor captain score or onfield score. It can also backfire if you cop a late out or a late in!

Maybe 20 to 50 odd points per game on average?

 

[Maybe Tomorrow]

only discovered this loopholing bizo this yr, prob loopholed my C 3 times

for those of you that use it regularly/weekly , how many points do you reckon

a) loopholing Captain is worth a year
b) loopholing rookie/bench ones (i havent tried this one yet)

obviously depends on lots of things, just want a rough guide on what optimising these features is potentially worth

I didn't work out looping until my second year, makes a huge difference. Just imo but

a) probably 20-30 points per week on average.
b) harder to guage, as rookies scoring is harder to predict especially early in the season. Anywhere from 10-100 in a given week.

As an example I looped Madden this week, but will give Murphy the chance to beat his 39 now. Not confident he will though so I could lose points there.

 

[A Bit Dusty]

I have Supercoach plus and I have noticed that uncle Jisk posts live scores from there cut I can't see them on mine. Is there a setting or something to get the live scores?

 

[ImissFrosty]

I have Supercoach plus and I have noticed that uncle Jisk posts live scores from there cut I can't see them on mine. Is there a setting or something to get the live scores?

Same, I can't see anything either. Somebody help us pls

 

[Andrew Birch]

I have Supercoach plus and I have noticed that uncle Jisk posts live scores from there cut I can't see them on mine. Is there a setting or something to get the live scores?

Same, I can't see anything either. Somebody help us pls

What, this?

 

[ImissFrosty]

What, this?

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Mid game, don't see any live scores even though I have sc plus.