List Mgmt. 2021 List Management

[BrisbaneCFC]

Was quite surprised by the supposed demands Parker had for his new contract, 4 years at $700,000, now i know it’s just media, but I don’t see the length or $$$$$ as something that would be a stumbling block, I would be staggered if most the Vic clubs wouldn’t offer that or more.

I hadn't heard that but I'd definitely do three years at 600 - 700K.

 

[gbatman]

He's well ahead of the likes of Dow, SPS, O'Brien, Fisher, Cuningham Etc etc. Well ahead.

He is, fits in well. As I said if we get him, one or two of them can go out. However to see the best of him we as a club need to change, hopefully the review brings that.

 

[DangerousD]

I hadn't heard that but I'd definitely do three years at 600 - 700K.

In the paper a few days ago, Parker wants 4 years at $700,000, I’m not sure you’re enticing someone to leave a club, they say they love, for less years and less $$$ than they are asking for

 

[Mezzoculo]

Why not Parker and Cerra?

Crap, I just read the Por que no los dos part.

In all seriousness, if Parker and either of the other two expressed an interest in playing for us, you make it happen. If we have to move on Setters, Newnes, Gov, SPS, Fish, Gibbons to raise the $$$$$ then so be it.

Im still shaking my head and wondering what the Pies are doing, unless they swap player for players, any draft pick they get for decent players, will be absorbed by the Daicos bid.

Parker/Cerra address midfield issues while Maynard really nails down the lockdown defender, a role we've really had issue with. Reckon we can't afford all three (or even Maynard and Cerra) so Parker and Maynard makes the most sense to me.

 

[Gingerbread man]

Cerra worth more than both Saad & Williams combined? I must have seriously missed something. Well I think you yourself may have blinders on. " Trajectory of improvement " is a fairly loose, malleable and misleading phrase in this instance I would think. What suggests Saad and Williams are just going to keel over in a couple of years and cease to be unproductive? Our little champion Kade Simpson played superbly in the backline till he was 36 ( and in all honestly probably could have played on this year ) - so it's not that much of a stretch to think Saad and Williams both have plenty of good years left in front of them, and they are each already proven solid players. Cerra might only be 21 but Paddy Dow and Lochie O'Brien are similarly aged so does that then make them automatically more valuable than all other players aged in their mid 20's, I mean. given their " trajectory of improvement?" Of course it doesn't. The way you talk about Cerra makes him out to be a Gun, which HE IS NOT. Dean Kemp was taken at pick number 128 for the Eagles but his output belied this as he is considered one of the all-time greats - so it really has no bearing on when a player is taken as to their worth. And more valuable because " He plays midfield?" Are you joking? Well then I guess that means that Gavin Wanganeen, Glen Jakovich, Steve Silvagni, Matthew Scarlett, Jeremy McGovern, Andy McKay, Glen Archer, Brian Lake, Dustin Fletcher, Alex Rance, Luke Hodge, Andrew McLeod, John Worsfold, Guy McKenna etc... are / were, all lesser players because they were backmen and not midfielders? Carlton " Blinders " off, Cerra has the potential to be a terrific, long term prospect, no question, but right now he is only a promising mid and therefore Freo have no right to try to extort such an extravagant price for him. Anyway that's my 2 cents as a Carlton person, and as i said before, it is always good to interact with other supporters such as yourself my friend.

I agree with the Freo guy

 

[Gingerbread man]

100%. The over rating of our drafted mids outside of Walsh is ridiculous to say the least.

Our drafting of mids outside of Walsh has been poor at best

 

[forever blue 1]

Talk on SEN this morning that GWS might be willing to salary dump Coniglio and pay part of his salary.. They were saying Freo the most likely destination... We should 100% put our hat in that ring..

For another over priced dud?
are you a Carlton supporter by any chance?

 

[sweethoney]

Check your spelling and you're onto something.

Hewett

 

[DangerousD]

Parker/Cerra address midfield issues while Maynard really nails down the lockdown defender, a role we've really had issue with. Reckon we can't afford all three (or even Maynard and Cerra) so Parker and Maynard makes the most sense to me.

You can always afford it. You make it happen, if we had to trade 4 players instead of 1, do it, Parker’s supposed asking price wasn’t huge, Cerras price is large for his age, unsure on Maynard, but if they were all keen, make it work.

 

[Jeremias]

For another over priced dud? are you a Carlton supporter by any chance?

Injured this year and form fell away last year, but a dud he most certainly isn’t.

Fantastic footballer when fit.

 

[BlueZombie]

I agree with the Freo guy

Good for you. I don't.

 

[macky99]

Injured this year and form fell away last year, but a dud he most certainly isn’t.

Fantastic footballer when fit.

I believe we have more than enough injury prone players, would not be going near Coniglio, focus on Cerra much younger and plenty of upside in the next 1-2 years.

 

[Jeremias]

I believe we have more than enough injury prone players, would not be going near Coniglio, focus on Cerra much younger and plenty of upside in the next 1-2 years.

I was not suggesting we should target him, just that he is not a dud or anything close to that.

Of course, if the asking price was cheap enough you'd be silly not to look, but that is not likely.

 

[bmaurizio]

Coniglio like Prestia will re establish & build further on an already distinguished AFL career, with another very lucky team will reap rewards , he’s an elite midfielder, right at the top, in the right setup will dominate regularly.

 

[bmaurizio]

If Conglio to Freo trade is seriously being contemplated, then we should chase Adam Cerra hard, Ben Allan will need our 1 st rounder, Adam may just might fall to us, that would be a great outcome for CFC.

 

[HavUEvaSeenTheRain]

Roughly

Dream Pick Ups	Out
Coniglio - $600k + $400k AFL money Cerra - $650k Parker - $750k Maynard - $550k	Murphy - $550k Levi - $400k Betts - $350k

These aren't crazy contracts, think we could manage them all except Coniglio's AFL money.

Would have to involve

• Walsh possibly taking unders $700k -$800k
• Trading some decent players

If you were actually going down this path you would also look to move on SPS, Setterfield, Newnes, Newman, Dow and Kennedy or offer rookie wages because none are best 22. Probably frees up another $1.2mil by the time they are replaced with rookies

 

[Christou2Kouta]

So far it seems like Cerra, Hewett and Riccardi are all potential ins.

Replacing Murphy, Newnes (at least in the 22 if not the list) and Casboult.

List/team already looking better.


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[Doro]

Riccardi's best 3 games were his first 3, hasn't been troubling the goal sheet since. Our record with low cost ex Giants is pretty poor, not sure I see it changing with Jake.

 

[goreds]

If Conglio to Freo trade is seriously being contemplated, then we should chase Adam Cerra hard, Ben Allan will need our 1 st rounder, Adam may just might fall to us, that would be a great outcome for CFC.

Cogs to Perth plus our 1st.
Our 1st and our 2nd(if we have one) plus change to GWS.
Cerra, Hopper and Riccardi to Blues.

 

[Juddernaut08]

Cogs to Perth plus our 1st.
Our 1st and our 2nd(if we have one) plus change to GWS.
Cerra, Hopper and Riccardi to Blues.

Where did Hopper come from? As if!

 

[Pinnell]

Cogs to Perth plus our 1st.
Our 1st and our 2nd(if we have one) plus change to GWS.
Cerra, Hopper and Riccardi to Blues.

Wowee.

 

[FitzroyBlueBagger]

Its half and half, I think its clear Cerra is going to be at minimum a reasonable player with a good floor. I've equated him to Mitch Duncan because thats where I see him ending up, unreal player but slightly below a Dangerfield or Selwood type. For many fans he is still an unknown quantity, he may end up a B grade player with a good kick, he may end up an A- like Mitch Duncan or he may end up a genuine superstar like Scott Pendlebury. His youth is a great bonus to his value, but it also limits it in the sense his development isnt quite at a spot that he can command a real kings ransom such as Tim Kelly/Dylan Sheil where imo the team selling almost always wins out long term.

Pick 6 and a 2nd/3rd rounder is where it will end up from what I gather splitting the middle between fan bases. Sounds fair to me on face value but it runs the gauntlet of if he ends up going crazy the next few years pick 6 is gonna feel like sh%t.

I’m thinking along the same lines, our first pick 6, then a swap of our future second Rd for freo’s future third rd next year…

Carlton
ins: Cerra & freo’s 2022 3rd rounder
out: 2021 pick6 2022 2nd rounder

 

[Elmer_Hauser]

Cogs to Perth plus our 1st.
Our 1st and our 2nd(if we have one) plus change to GWS.
Cerra, Hopper and Riccardi to Blues.

Why would GWS do that ???
They get fleeced under that scenario.

 

[FitzroyBlueBagger]

Looks like Luke Parker

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Luke Parker

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32

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183cm

Wt

88kg

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Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

24.2

5star

K

12.6

5star

HB

11.6

5star

M

3.8

4star

T

5.6

5star

CL

5.8

5star

D

22.1

5star

K

12.3

5star

HB

9.9

5star

M

3.9

4star

T

5.0

5star

CL

5.5

5star

D

21.2

5star

K

11.4

4star

HB

9.8

5star

M

2.0

3star

T

8.0

5star

CL

5.2

5star

’s new contract asking terms will have Sydney loosing a few players to other clubs maybe…
I’d love to get Stephens for our second rounder if possible, maybe some shuffling of another later pick aa well…

 

[goreds]

Why would GWS do that ???
They get fleeced under that scenario.

I would throw in next years 1st as well to get my hands on Hopper...