List Mgmt. 2021 Trade Thread - Part II

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Continued in Part III

List Mgmt. - 2021 Trade Thread - Part III

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Delisted;
Oscar Clavarino

38

Oscar Clavarino

Age

25

Ht

197cm

Wt

89kg

Pos.

Def

No player stats available

Sam Alabakis

45

Sam Alabakis

Age

27

Ht

211cm

Wt

105kg

Pos.

Ruck

No player stats available

Traded;
-

Retired;
Jake Carlisle

2

Jake Carlisle

Age

32

Ht

200cm

Wt

106kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.6

3star

K

8.7

3star

HB

4.9

4star

M

6.2

5star

T

1.6

4star

MG

116.3

2star

D

11.7

3star

K

8.4

3star

HB

3.3

2star

M

5.9

5star

T

1.1

2star

MG

116.3

2star

D

12.4

4star

K

6.4

3star

HB

6.0

4star

M

6.6

5star

T

0.8

3star

Dylan Roberton

17

Dylan Roberton

Age

33

Ht

194cm

Wt

94kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.1

4star

K

11.4

4star

HB

5.8

4star

M

4.8

5star

T

1.9

4star

MG

373.2

5star

D

8.0

2star

K

7.0

3star

HB

1.0

1star

M

1.0

1star

T

0.0

1star

MG

215.0

3star

D

14.6

4star

K

10.2

4star

HB

4.4

4star

M

4.6

5star

T

1.6

4star

Shaun McKernan

27

Shaun Mckernan

Age

34

Ht

196cm

Wt

100kg

Pos.

F/R

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.0

3star

K

8.3

3star

HB

4.7

3star

M

4.5

4star

T

1.8

4star

G

1.0

4star

D

8.4

2star

K

5.6

2star

HB

2.8

2star

M

3.6

4star

T

1.6

3star

G

1.0

4star

D

17.0

5star

K

8.2

4star

HB

8.8

5star

M

3.6

4star

T

1.2

3star

G

0.2

3star

James Frawley

24

James Frawley

Age

35

Ht

193cm

Wt

96kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.2

4star

K

9.2

4star

HB

5.1

4star

M

5.1

5star

T

1.9

4star

MG

135.4

2star

D

8.7

2star

K

6.0

2star

HB

2.7

2star

M

3.0

3star

T

0.9

2star

MG

135.4

2star

D

9.0

3star

K

4.0

2star

HB

5.0

4star

M

1.8

2star

T

1.2

3star

Current Players Out of Contract;
7. Luke Dunstan

27

Luke Dunstan

Age

29

Ht

185cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

20.7

5star

K

10.1

4star

HB

10.6

5star

M

3.3

3star

T

4.8

5star

CL

4.4

5star

D

21.0

5star

K

13.0

5star

HB

8.0

4star

M

3.0

3star

T

9.0

5star

CL

2.0

4star

D

18.2

5star

K

6.0

3star

HB

12.2

5star

M

2.4

3star

T

6.2

5star

CL

4.2

5star

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13. Jack Lonie

13

Jack Lonie

Age

28

Ht

175cm

Wt

70kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.5

3star

K

7.8

3star

HB

4.7

3star

M

3.1

3star

T

2.8

4star

G

0.9

4star

D

10.7

3star

K

7.9

3star

HB

2.9

2star

M

3.7

4star

T

2.6

4star

G

0.7

4star

D

13.4

4star

K

9.0

4star

HB

4.4

4star

M

2.8

3star

T

3.2

5star

G

1.0

4star

- Link
25. Dean Kent

25

Dean Kent

Age

30

Ht

181cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.7

3star

K

8.3

3star

HB

4.5

3star

M

3.4

3star

T

2.3

4star

G

1.0

4star

D

10.4

3star

K

7.8

3star

HB

2.6

2star

M

3.6

4star

T

3.0

4star

G

1.2

5star

D

7.6

2star

K

5.4

2star

HB

2.2

2star

M

2.0

3star

T

3.0

5star

G

0.6

3star

- Link
39. Darragh Joyce

41

Darragh Joyce

Age

27

Ht

195cm

Wt

96kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.4

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

4.6

3star

M

1.8

2star

T

1.4

3star

MG

207.6

3star

No current season stats available

D

11.4

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

4.6

4star

M

1.8

2star

T

1.4

4star

MG

207.6

4star

- Link
41. Paul Hunter

41

Paul Hunter

Age

31

Ht

200cm

Wt

104kg

Pos.

Ruck

No player stats available

- Link


To see the full list (it gets updated regularly) visit this thread;

List & Contract Status

SENIOR LIST 1. Jack Higgins 2. Marcus Windhager 3. Zak Jones 4. Lance Collard 5. Brad Crouch 6. Sebastian Ross 7. Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera 8. Bradley Hill 9. Jack Steele 10. Mitchito Owens 11. Hunter Clark 12. Max King 13. Ryan Byrnes 14. Liam Stocker 15. Paddy Dow 16. Daniel Butler 17. Isaac...

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Restricted and Unrestricted Free Agency Window
Friday October 1 – Friday October 8

Trade Period
Players: Monday October 4 – Wednesday October 13
Picks: Monday October 4 – tbc (approx. Friday November 19)

List Lodgement 1
tbc (approx. Thursday October 28)

Delisted Free Agency Window 1
tbc (approx. Friday October 29 - Monday November 8)

List Lodgement 2 (Final date for primary list delistings)
tbc (approx. Tuesday November 9)

Delisted Free Agency Window 2
tbc (approx. Wednesday November 10 - Friday November 19)

 

[Joffaboy]

Yes, from Sydney. That isn't taking into account the other clubs that would look at him that are probably closer to a flag in his eyes.

I also read he was looking for 4 x 700k

Surmised in the MSM report. WHo knows what he is after.

 

[Joffaboy]

Most probably, his record is very very good over a period of time. He has played a lot of hard yards and more chance of breaking down at the saints at say the age of 30,31 which is exactly what we dont want.

Certainly is a risk. What obviously needs to be weighed up is if he will improve our midfield and hence the team in any meaningful way. 3 years with triggers would be the least risk for a 29 y.o

 

[Moorabbin Ghost]

What is the go with Zac jones?? haven't heard boo regarding his contract status which makes me think he's signed already

He signed for 3 years so was never out of contract for next season.

 

[sunny3193]

We offered Billings more, geez their SC must be tight. One thing to remember, there has not been one word from anybody here about a whisper that the Saints have approached him in anyway.

You didn’t get the PM?

 

[CaptainRisky]

We offered Billings more, geez their SC must be tight. One thing to remember, there has not been one word from anybody here about a whisper that the Saints have approached him in anyway.

Well if it hasn't been mentioned on here there is no way he is coming to us

 

[CaptainRisky]

 

[pebblesofsand]

So there are no other clubs that would offer him a contract?

Would he come to a side that missed the finals for a fairly basic contract?

Long term guaranteed V 2 year contract.

We have the money.

His mate plays for us.

And he knows that the Saints, unlike Essendon, Carlton and Hawthorn, WILL be playing finals next year.

 

[BrutThough]

Long term guaranteed V 2 year contract.

We have the money.

His mate plays for us.

And he knows that the Saints, unlike Essendon, Carlton and Hawthorn, WILL be playing finals next year.

How does he know that? When did they announce we have a guaranteed spot in the 8?

 

[CaptainRisky]

How does he know that? When did they announce we have a guaranteed spot in the 8?

Yeah just like most on here had us a lock to play finals this year

 

[AirWinmar]

How does he know that? When did they announce we have a guaranteed spot in the 8?

Premo convinced him

 

[Bill Mohr]

WE dont have to get a gun midfielder at great cost. There are other players OOC ready to move, their names have all been mentioned on here. yes, be great to get a Cerra or Parker but if we dont then we ride the wind and hope that Clark/Bytel/Coffield and others pick up the slack. The latter method probably wont suit a lot of people but if those guys dont make it then our recruiting has failed. McClure was on the money when he mentioned small players doing the job, not necesarily mids either but types like Higgins, Gresham, Butler. Sydney has better mids than us and still didnt win, same with Essendon

 

[bird_man]

Surmised in the MSM report. WHo knows what he is after.

Who knows if that's what Sydney's final offer will be too if that's the way you want to look at it.

If they end up offering 550 I'm not sure he'd leave for a side that didn't make finals when he could be a one club player just for the sake of 50k a year.

 

[SaintsSeptember]

Most probably, his record is very very good over a period of time. He has played a lot of hard yards and more chance of breaking down at the saints at say the age of 30,31 which is exactly what we dont want.

If we swapped him for 28 year old Ross how would you feel?

 

[Bill Mohr]

Long term guaranteed V 2 year contract.

We have the money.

His mate plays for us.

And he knows that the Saints, unlike Essendon, Carlton and Hawthorn, WILL be playing finals next year.

How much money do we actually have? Right now. To recruit Parker on a 3+1 or 4 y deal?

 

[SaintsSeptember]

WE dont have to get a gun midfielder at great cost. There are other players OOC ready to move, their names have all been mentioned on here. yes, be great to get a Cerra or Parker but if we dont then we ride the wind and hope that Clark/Bytel/Coffield and others pick up the slack. The latter method probably wont suit a lot of people but if those guys dont make it then our recruiting has failed. McClure was on the money when he mentioned small players doing the job, not necesarily mids either but types like Higgins, Gresham, Butler. Sydney has better mids than us and still didnt win, same with Essendon

Coffield might make it as a mid one day, but don't hold your breath, right now he's lucky to get a game.

 

[Bill Mohr]

If we swapped him for 28 year old Ross how would you feel?

Very good.

 

[Remboy]

How does he know that? When did they announce we have a guaranteed spot in the 8?

There's going to be an announcement when they release the fixture. They will announce the finalists at the same time. It will save everyone's time and effort.

 

[Xxxx66]

Carlton sack Teague because they want an experienced, hard nosed, defensive minded coach. They then proceed to stuff around their dream candidate until he withdraws.
People hang sh*t on the people running our club but fu** me Carlton are a comedy show.

Also made me laugh when sayers adds Liddle to the coach selection panel and then wouldn't guarantee his job beyond 2021. Take away the days of cheating and the brown paper bag, and they have been an embarrassment.

 

[Bill Mohr]

Coffield might make it as a mid one day, but don't hold your breath, right now he's lucky to get a game.

Thats ok too but if he does turn into a consistent good marking backman then I would class that as a win/win for all concerned. It is a position we dont have to worry about for 5 years. If he does not get into the midfield...fine

 

[Premium]

Premo convinced him

Not me - Hannerbery and Jones , still think he wants to stay at Swans , big move back to Melbourne - selling up in Sydney then buying a new house in Melb , finding schools for the kids and who knows his missus most probably has a job up there.

- Also I wouldn't have a clue if he has a missus and kids.

After the Hannerbery saga I would offer him 3 yrs with a trigger / he is a solid player , makes the squad stronger and we don't need to use a trade to get him

 

[Bill Mohr]

Also made me laugh when sayers adds Liddle to the coach selection panel and then wouldn't guarantee his job beyond 2021. Take away the days of cheating and the brown paper bag, and they have been an embarrassment.

Lyon could see the writing on the wall. Sayers going outside the committee to talk to him, the harrasment issue, trouble with Lloyd at Freo, Board issues. What a mess. Now they will have to rush into a new coach because if not it will affect their recruiting. Voss would be good IMO

 

[bird_man]

Long term guaranteed V 2 year contract.

We have the money.

His mate plays for us.

And he knows that the Saints, unlike Essendon, Carlton and Hawthorn, WILL be playing finals next year.

Firstly, what makes you think the only other clubs willing to offer him 600k would be those 3?

I'd be pretty confident there'd be sides closer to a flag that could find the space to offer him that contract which IMO is pretty basic.

Secondly, not sure he knows we'd be playing finals next year. We've made finals once in 10 years, we are hardly a club you'd put your house on to play finals.

Also, I think people are kidding themselves if they actually think Sydney's final offer will be 2 x 500k, in fact they've already said those figures are wrong



He's reportedly asking for 4 x 700k to leave a club has played his whole career at. He is not going to leave for significantly less than that just to play with a couple of old team mates.

 

[Monika72]

Lyon could see the writing on the wall. Sayers going outside the committee to talk to him, the harrasment issue, trouble with Lloyd at Freo, Board issues. What a mess. Now they will have to rush into a new coach because if not it will affect their recruiting. Voss would be good IMO

I think the other scott will get the gig at Carlton

 

[Bill Mohr]

Firstly, what makes you think the only other clubs willing to offer him 600k would be those 3?

I'd be pretty confident there'd be sides closer to a flag that could find the space to offer him that contract which IMO is pretty basic.

Secondly, not sure he knows we'd be playing finals next year. We've made finals once in 10 years, we are hardly a club you'd put your house on to play finals.

Also, I think people are kidding themselves if they actually think Sydney's final offer will be 2 x 500k, in fact they've already said those figures are wrong

He's reportedly asking for 4 x 700k to leave a club has played his whole career at. He is not going to leave for significantly less than that just to play with a couple of old team mates.
[/QUOTE]
Sounds all pretty correct. IMO His management team were fishing and probably even spread the 2 year rumour. None the less if Swans do pay him that type of money then they will still have to offload some players. Wont be as good as him but still could be ok at a good price.

 

[SaintsSeptember]

How much money do we actually have? Right now. To recruit Parker on a 3+1 or 4 y deal?

Surely Dunstan was on reasonable cash. That would go towards it.
Geary may have taken a pay cut. Billings will if he stays. Probably Ross will, if he stays.
If you rear ended his contract just a little bit, we'd have the Hannebery money next year.