List Mgmt. 2021 Trade Thread - Part II

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Continued in Part III

List Mgmt. - 2021 Trade Thread - Part III

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Delisted;
Oscar Clavarino

38

Oscar Clavarino

Age

25

Ht

197cm

Wt

89kg

Pos.

Def

No player stats available

Sam Alabakis

45

Sam Alabakis

Age

27

Ht

211cm

Wt

105kg

Pos.

Ruck

No player stats available

Traded;
-

Retired;
Jake Carlisle

2

Jake Carlisle

Age

32

Ht

200cm

Wt

106kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.6

3star

K

8.7

3star

HB

4.9

4star

M

6.2

5star

T

1.6

4star

MG

116.3

2star

D

11.7

3star

K

8.4

3star

HB

3.3

2star

M

5.9

5star

T

1.1

2star

MG

116.3

2star

D

12.4

4star

K

6.4

3star

HB

6.0

4star

M

6.6

5star

T

0.8

3star

Dylan Roberton

17

Dylan Roberton

Age

33

Ht

194cm

Wt

94kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.1

4star

K

11.4

4star

HB

5.8

4star

M

4.8

5star

T

1.9

4star

MG

373.2

5star

D

8.0

2star

K

7.0

3star

HB

1.0

1star

M

1.0

1star

T

0.0

1star

MG

215.0

3star

D

14.6

4star

K

10.2

4star

HB

4.4

4star

M

4.6

5star

T

1.6

4star

Shaun McKernan

27

Shaun Mckernan

Age

34

Ht

196cm

Wt

100kg

Pos.

F/R

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.0

3star

K

8.3

3star

HB

4.7

3star

M

4.5

4star

T

1.8

4star

G

1.0

4star

D

8.4

2star

K

5.6

2star

HB

2.8

2star

M

3.6

4star

T

1.6

3star

G

1.0

4star

D

17.0

5star

K

8.2

4star

HB

8.8

5star

M

3.6

4star

T

1.2

3star

G

0.2

3star

James Frawley

24

James Frawley

Age

35

Ht

193cm

Wt

96kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.2

4star

K

9.2

4star

HB

5.1

4star

M

5.1

5star

T

1.9

4star

MG

135.4

2star

D

8.7

2star

K

6.0

2star

HB

2.7

2star

M

3.0

3star

T

0.9

2star

MG

135.4

2star

D

9.0

3star

K

4.0

2star

HB

5.0

4star

M

1.8

2star

T

1.2

3star

Current Players Out of Contract;
7. Luke Dunstan

27

Luke Dunstan

Age

29

Ht

185cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

20.7

5star

K

10.1

4star

HB

10.6

5star

M

3.3

3star

T

4.8

5star

CL

4.4

5star

D

21.0

5star

K

13.0

5star

HB

8.0

4star

M

3.0

3star

T

9.0

5star

CL

2.0

4star

D

18.2

5star

K

6.0

3star

HB

12.2

5star

M

2.4

3star

T

6.2

5star

CL

4.2

5star

(RFA) - Link
13. Jack Lonie

13

Jack Lonie

Age

28

Ht

175cm

Wt

70kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.5

3star

K

7.8

3star

HB

4.7

3star

M

3.1

3star

T

2.8

4star

G

0.9

4star

D

10.7

3star

K

7.9

3star

HB

2.9

2star

M

3.7

4star

T

2.6

4star

G

0.7

4star

D

13.4

4star

K

9.0

4star

HB

4.4

4star

M

2.8

3star

T

3.2

5star

G

1.0

4star

- Link
25. Dean Kent

25

Dean Kent

Age

30

Ht

181cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.7

3star

K

8.3

3star

HB

4.5

3star

M

3.4

3star

T

2.3

4star

G

1.0

4star

D

10.4

3star

K

7.8

3star

HB

2.6

2star

M

3.6

4star

T

3.0

4star

G

1.2

5star

D

7.6

2star

K

5.4

2star

HB

2.2

2star

M

2.0

3star

T

3.0

5star

G

0.6

3star

- Link
39. Darragh Joyce

41

Darragh Joyce

Age

27

Ht

195cm

Wt

96kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.4

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

4.6

3star

M

1.8

2star

T

1.4

3star

MG

207.6

3star

No current season stats available

D

11.4

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

4.6

4star

M

1.8

2star

T

1.4

4star

MG

207.6

4star

- Link
41. Paul Hunter

41

Paul Hunter

Age

31

Ht

200cm

Wt

104kg

Pos.

Ruck

No player stats available

- Link


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List & Contract Status

SENIOR LIST 1. Jack Higgins 2. Marcus Windhager 3. Zak Jones 4. Lance Collard 5. Brad Crouch 6. Sebastian Ross 7. Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera 8. Bradley Hill 9. Jack Steele 10. Mitchito Owens 11. Hunter Clark 12. Max King 13. Ryan Byrnes 14. Liam Stocker 15. Paddy Dow 16. Daniel Butler 17. Isaac...

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Restricted and Unrestricted Free Agency Window
Friday October 1 – Friday October 8

Trade Period
Players: Monday October 4 – Wednesday October 13
Picks: Monday October 4 – tbc (approx. Friday November 19)

List Lodgement 1
tbc (approx. Thursday October 28)

Delisted Free Agency Window 1
tbc (approx. Friday October 29 - Monday November 8)

List Lodgement 2 (Final date for primary list delistings)
tbc (approx. Tuesday November 9)

Delisted Free Agency Window 2
tbc (approx. Wednesday November 10 - Friday November 19)

 

[Moral Decay]

I have a problem, it's like a guy who brings home broken sh*t from hard rubbish.

Mum! What are you doing here?

 

[Diehard Saint]

Carlton sack Teague because they want an experienced, hard nosed, defensive minded coach. They then proceed to stuff around their dream candidate until he withdraws. People hang sh*t on the people running our club but fu** me Carlton are a comedy show.

And aren’t we just loving watching it?

 

[LongParker]

We missed finals by 1 game, with a horrible fixture and a heap of injuries. Surely next year with a more favorable draw and even half the amount of injuries we walk into the finals??

 

[Xxxx66]

I have a problem, it's like a guy who brings home broken sh*t from hard rubbish.

That's me

 

[Baker_for_PM]

Can we just do a deal for Mathieson, I miss having a bit of mongrel at the club. May help with the fade outs we had this year, Who do we have that can start some sh%t and get us fired up again.

 

[Xxxx66]

Can we just do a deal for Mathieson, I miss having a bit of mongrel at the club. May help with the fade outs we had this year, Who do we have that can start some sh%t and get us fired up again.

Be surprised if he is on an AFL list next year

 

[Max the great]

We could pick up Dom Tyson for nothing. Would be free back up. He was okay in 2017 but behind Melbourne's very strong midfielders. Hardly played since getting to North as the started rebuilding with a new coach who wanted to play the kids. He might still have something to give, he's played 5 games since turning 25. Pretty much a Mason Wood type of back up or delist if he doesn't improve type of free hit.

Hahaha you would have to be joking right?

 

[Grav]

Be surprised if he is on an AFL list next year

Then we take him in the mid year draft. Win, win

 

[Premium]

The management at the club know we are missing a few key pieces that need to be filled.

The problem is we don't have the purchasing power only having pick 11 and something around 46 and 60s

Having to replace Frawley , McKernan , Roberton , Dunstan , Carlisle you can imagine free agents will be looked at to fill the void again.

However whoever we pickup will be better than what we had this year , most of the players who are leaving this year were unable to get on the park.

 

[Xxxx66]

Then we take him in the mid year draft. Win, win

Mmm.. hope not, his disposal is very ordinary

 

[Midfield Gun]

Be surprised if he is on an AFL list next year

Signed a two year deal with Brisbane yesterday

 

[Xxxx66]

Signed a two year deal with Brisbane yesterday

He's a done well, good luck to him.

 

[BrutThough]

We missed finals by 1 game, with a horrible fixture and a heap of injuries. Surely next year with a more favorable draw and even half the amount of injuries we walk into the finals??

You'd hope thats true, but it is far from guaranteed.

 

[CaptainRisky]

We missed finals by 1 game, with a horrible fixture and a heap of injuries. Surely next year with a more favorable draw and even half the amount of injuries we walk into the finals??

Its easy to say we make finals , there is only 8 spots you know and other sides are improving too ,its not only us that will get better next year , i think we end up in the 8-10 bracket as only Geelong look like they maybe getting close to the end , the rest are all youngish sides like us

 

[_Maximus_12]

Carlton have been the worst club in the state by the length of Flemington straight since the turn of the century. Send em to Tassie.

 

[pebblesofsand]

Its easy to say we make finals , there is only 8 spots you know and other sides are improving too ,its not only us that will get better next year , i think we end up in the 8-10 bracket as only Geelong look like they maybe getting close to the end , the rest are all youngish sides like us

Melb, Bris, Port and Saints Top 4 next year.

Essendon, GWS, Bulldogs Sydney Geelong all vulnerable.

West Coast, Richmond gone

Hawthorn, Freo standing still

Disregard the rest.

 

[BrutThough]

Its easy to say we make finals , there is only 8 spots you know and other sides are improving too ,its not only us that will get better next year , i think we end up in the 8-10 bracket as only Geelong look like they maybe getting close to the end , the rest are all youngish sides like us

Won't just be Geelong at danger of falling out.

Essendon - made finals with only 11 wins, smashed by all the top teams this year, won't have bottom 6 fixture next year, no forward line, best players all had great seasons yet only managed 11 wins so going to need a lot of improvement from lesser players to improve enough to get those extra wins.

Sydney - Salary cap issues means 1 or 2 best 22 players will fall out, still reliant on an ancient Franklin to kick a score, can Hickey back up a good season for the first time in his career at 31

GWS - will have top 6 fixture despite only 11 wins this year

Port - aren't a young team like the media like to believe and a lot of their best players are over 30 so a drop off from them will be coming, were flat track bullies this year which catches up to team, would be a big shock from them to miss finals but I'd have them as a huge candidate to fall from top 4 to 5th-8th spot based on their flat track status this year similar to what happened with West Coast the previous few years.

Whether or not we take advantage of this will be seen, but there will be a lot of vulnerable clubs who we could pass if we bother to turn up for the whole season.

 

[CaptainRisky]

Won't just be Geelong at danger of falling out.

Essendon - made finals with only 11 wins, smashed by all the top teams this year, won't have bottom 6 fixture next year, no forward line, best players all had great seasons yet only managed 11 wins so going to need a lot of improvement from lesser players to improve enough to get those extra wins.

They had a pretty bad run with injuries

Sydney - Salary cap issues means 1 or 2 best 22 players will fall out, still reliant on an ancient Franklin to kick a score, can Hickey back up a good season for the first time in his career at 31

Yes Buddy is a year older but they have McDonald who looks like he will be a very good player who will be better in his second season plus plenty of good young kids

GWS - will have top 6 fixture despite only 11 wins this year

Yeah they will but they wont be losing any talent over the pre season

Port - aren't a young team like the media like to believe and a lot of their best players are over 30 so a drop off from them will be coming, were flat track bullies this year which catches up to team, would be a big shock from them to miss finals but I'd have them as a huge candidate to fall from top 4 to 5th-8th spot based on their flat track status this year similar to what happened with West Coast the previous few years.

Yes they have a few oldies but they are more likely to drop off in a couple of years not next year IMO ,, Boak played as good this year as he ever has

Whether or not we take advantage of this will be seen, but there will be a lot of vulnerable clubs who we could pass if we bother to turn up for the whole season.

 

[Ducky Tie]

Its easy to say we make finals , there is only 8 spots you know and other sides are improving too ,its not only us that will get better next year , i think we end up in the 8-10 bracket as only Geelong look like they maybe getting close to the end , the rest are all youngish sides like us

It's always difficult to forecast who will drop out of the eight, but teams always do. Over the past twelve years, there have been seven years where three teams have dropped out the next year, four years where two teams have dropped out and one year where four teams dropped out. Basically, at least two teams drop out every year, generally even more.

That's not to say that we will be the team that fills one of those spots, but there will be teams who drop out next year.

 

[gringo2011]

You'd hope thats true, but it is far from guaranteed.

Yep, others could improve and we end up with another draw that looks less appealing once the season starts. We could get double ups against Richmond, Carlton Gold Coast and Freo and all of them have improved rapidly and actually have a more difficult assignment. Sydney looked a walk-over at the start of the season and Richmond look impossible. No guarantees that we don't have worse injuries to more important players either. Rucks and mids look light on and our forward line is still very young and up and down.

 

[PostmanBish]

Carlton have been the worst club in the state by the length of Flemington straight since the turn of the century. Send em to Tassie.

Can't wait for the expansion draft where every team's top-3 players are available to the new Tassie club ... plus the inevitable 27 FRDPs per year ...

 

[Jade Buddha]

Its easy to say we make finals , there is only 8 spots you know and other sides are improving too ,its not only us that will get better next year , i think we end up in the 8-10 bracket as only Geelong look like they maybe getting close to the end , the rest are all youngish sides like us

Argument swings both ways surely.
You say other teams will improve but given our sh$t run with injuries. Sydney, Brisbane, Freo are young sides but I rate is higher.

 

[stavro#4]

Argument swings both ways surely.
You say other teams will improve but given our sh$t run with injuries. Sydney, Brisbane, Freo are young sides but I rate is higher.

Is that you Brad Johnson?

 

[gringo2011]

Argument swings both ways surely.
You say other teams will improve but given our sh$t run with injuries. Sydney, Brisbane, Freo are young sides but I rate is higher.

We could jump up but we are relying on players stepping up. If we progress we have to get more out of Gresham, Hunter Clark, Coff, King etc. The older guys have reached their peak and guys like Ryder will be on the way down. We really need the kids to move up to the level Clark, Coff and Paton are at and then that next tier to step up to solid consistent footballers.

Injuries are a reality, we have to be able to wear them. I get the feeling the club is not even planning on going anywhere until they get hold of Ben King, they have taken their eyes off the prize and are all in on going in that direction. One thing the Saints don't do is move quickly. We'll be very young and have limited experienced depth next year. If we make finals heaps will have gone right and not much wrong.

 

[Joffaboy]

Is that you Brad Johnson?

Wasn't that hilarious? Freo getting their arses handed to them by a banged up Saints outfit and Johnson singing their praises over us saying things like, 'they have Cerra to come back into their team'

The toss is still so bitter of the Saints whacking his Bulldogs. Get over it man, your club has won a flag, and ours still hasn't, let it go.