I don't mind the idea of getting the best ruck from the sanfl, wafl or vfl...
That would be my preference as well.
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I don't mind the idea of getting the best ruck from the sanfl, wafl or vfl...
Cegs we have chased a few times looks to be Hawks no.1 ruckman thoughJust need to find the next Hickey from scrapheap as cover for a year or two.
I wonder if Sinclair or Ceglar might be a chance.
CCJ to North for $400 to $450 per year for five years is what is being reported on AFL Tonight.
Please, Zac has earned his retirement, let him rest in peace.I was about to post this exact thing. Mummy is the example that came to mind for me, but Huddo's the same idea.
Nathan Vardy a good option. Could even get Zac Smith out of Gold Coast for half a year.
Cegs we have chased a few times looks to be Hawks no.1 ruckman though
No list spaces available.Would Hartlett from Port be a possible like for like replacement for Birchall maybe as a Rookie?
That's a really good point.One issue we have is our defensive game in the middle when we are not winning the contest. A top defensive midfielder Jack Steele averages 8.5 tackles a game, Lachie Neale just 4.1 per game. Zorko and Lyons both average around 6 per game but in our big wins Zorko is usually over 10 tackles and our losses he can be a low as 2.
In the ruck category Grundy averages 4.2 a game, Shane Mumford 4.8 per game where Oscar is 2.2 and Fullerton 1.75 tackles a game.
My view is we need to look at the defensive aspects around our midfield so anyone we look to bring in should have what we are a bit short on, a ruck that can nullify the tap outs but is defensive or a midfielder that may lacking in other areas but is defensive when we need to stop a momentum change.
I don't think we need a second ruck.
1. Our current midfield setup gets the ball forward often enough to give us an opportunity to kick goals. I don't think playing Fullarton or Joe or even McStay hurts our midfield that much.
2. Our forwardline is the best in the AFL. I don't want to throw off the structure by playing an immobile ruckman down there.
We had Brown ,Lynch and Bradshaw and 2 rucks.This is what I'm confused about. If we get a second ruck it would only be as an inury back up to Oscar.
Once Hipwood is back you can't roll with Joe, Macca, Hippy and 2 rucks.
One issue we have is our defensive game in the middle when we are not winning the contest. A top defensive midfielder Jack Steele averages 8.5 tackles a game, Lachie Neale just 4.1 per game. Zorko and Lyons both average around 6 per game but in our big wins Zorko is usually over 10 tackles and our losses he can be a low as 2.
In the ruck category Grundy averages 4.2 a game, Shane Mumford 4.8 per game where Oscar is 2.2 and Fullerton 1.75 tackles a game.
My view is we need to look at the defensive aspects around our midfield so anyone we look to bring in should have what we are a bit short on, a ruck that can nullify the tap outs but is defensive or a midfielder that may lacking in other areas but is defensive when we need to stop a momentum change.
While that's not necessarily wrong, it's worth noting that in terms of the stars of this year's grand final teams, Petracca only averages 4.1 tackles a game and Oliver only 5.2.
The Bulldogs aren't much different, with Bontempelli averaging 4.8 tackles a game, Liberatore 5.4, and Smith 3.4.
Looking at those stats, our midfield tackling numbers aren't really that far from the norm at all. Not that it isn't worth looking at, but it's not the glaring problem of our midfield group.
We had Brown ,Lynch and Bradshaw and 2 rucks.
Maybe the game's changed. Dunno.
I think we've got our forward mix as good as we can get it , especially when Hipwood plays. But we need more defensive efforts from Daniher and Charlie when he's having an off day. Or even on his good days. McStay really improved defensive wise this year .Yeah you have to defend now, especially rebounding from defensive 50. I just do not see it personally. Even the 3 tall tall and Oscar set up was debated at the start of the year. We have made our Daniher bed in that regard.
Could bring in an Injury back up though, someone 30+ and not worth much.
While that's not necessarily wrong, it's worth noting that in terms of the stars of this year's grand final teams, Petracca only averages 4.1 tackles a game and Oliver only 5.2.
The Bulldogs aren't much different, with Bontempelli averaging 4.8 tackles a game, Liberatore 5.4, and Smith 3.4.
Looking at those stats, our midfield tackling numbers aren't really that far from the norm at all. Not that it isn't worth looking at, but it's not the glaring problem of our midfield group.
I suspect Sinclair would be a chance if you were interested. Think I read there had been interest from elsewhere and we weren't rushing to re-sign him. Granted, he'd probably be in the exact same position as he's in at the moment at the Lions, unless we think McLean or Amartey (both admittedly undersized and probably more suited to pinch-hitting) would overtake him next year.Just need to find the next Hickey from scrapheap as cover for a year or two.
I wonder if Sinclair or Ceglar might be a chance.
He has taken the bait and wiggling but he is not in the boat yet.North finally get their big fish......
McCluggage 3.7, Mathieson 2.6, Berry 3, Bailey 2.8 My point was as a collective group we are the best offensive team in the league, supposedly, but when a momentum swing comes we can't flip into defensive mode. Remember all the speculation about why the Suns let Lyons go and his lack of 2 way running, well right now we seem to have that through our midfield. Yes we can improve those we have and Zorko himself has massive swing from 12 tackles one week to just 2 or 3 another. If we use a "money ball" type theory we can get a lower level ruckman, $ cheaper, that could help in the defensive areas rather than one where we are focusing on their forward work. We could get a midfielder that is being tossed because they don't kick enough goals but tackles like a machine.
Let's not add to our problem and not recognise there is an issue, knowing your weakness becomes a strength.
One issue we have is our defensive game in the middle when we are not winning the contest. A top defensive midfielder Jack Steeleaverages 8.5 tackles a game, Lachie NealePLAYERCARDSTART9Jack Steele
- Age
- 28
- Ht
- 187cm
- Wt
- 90kg
- Pos.
- Mid
CareerSeasonLast 5
- D
- 20.9
- 5star
- K
- 8.7
- 3star
- HB
- 12.2
- 5star
- M
- 3.7
- 4star
- T
- 6.8
- 5star
- CL
- 3.6
- 5star
- D
- 21.3
- 5star
- K
- 10.0
- 4star
- HB
- 11.3
- 5star
- M
- 4.0
- 4star
- T
- 5.8
- 5star
- CL
- 4.6
- 5star
- D
- 16.8
- 4star
- K
- 5.0
- 2star
- HB
- 11.8
- 5star
- M
- 2.6
- 3star
- T
- 6.4
- 5star
- CL
- 3.6
- 5star
PLAYERCARDENDjust 4.1 per game. Zorko and Lyons both average around 6 per game but in our big wins Zorko is usually over 10 tackles and our losses he can be a low as 2.PLAYERCARDSTART9Lachie Neale
- Age
- 31
- Ht
- 178cm
- Wt
- 84kg
- Pos.
- Mid
CareerSeasonLast 5
- D
- 27.0
- 5star
- K
- 11.5
- 4star
- HB
- 15.5
- 5star
- M
- 4.0
- 4star
- T
- 3.7
- 5star
- CL
- 5.9
- 5star
- D
- 28.3
- 5star
- K
- 13.9
- 5star
- HB
- 14.4
- 5star
- M
- 4.6
- 4star
- T
- 4.0
- 5star
- CL
- 5.9
- 5star
- D
- 12.0
- 3star
- K
- 4.6
- 2star
- HB
- 7.4
- 5star
- M
- 2.0
- 3star
- T
- 1.0
- 3star
- CL
- 0.4
- 3star
PLAYERCARDEND
In the ruck category Grundy averages 4.2 a game, Shane Mumford4.8 per game where Oscar is 2.2 and Fullerton 1.75 tackles a game.PLAYERCARDSTART41Shane Mumford
- Age
- 38
- Ht
- 198cm
- Wt
- 105kg
- Pos.
- Ruck
CareerSeasonLast 5
- D
- 10.9
- 3star
- K
- 3.0
- 1star
- HB
- 8.0
- 5star
- CL
- 3.0
- 4star
- HO
- 29.9
- 5star
- D
- 7.3
- 2star
- K
- 1.3
- 1star
- HB
- 6.0
- 3star
- CL
- 2.3
- 4star
- HO
- 18.5
- 5star
- D
- 6.2
- 2star
- K
- 1.6
- 1star
- HB
- 4.6
- 4star
- HO
- 12.4
- 5star
PLAYERCARDEND
My view is we need to look at the defensive aspects around our midfield so anyone we look to bring in should have what we are a bit short on, a ruck that can nullify the tap outs but is defensive or a midfielder that may lacking in other areas but is defensive when we need to stop a momentum change.
Finlayson and Dawson to Port.Tom Browne reporting Finlayson is doing a medical at Port.
That'll fix all their problems!