Player Watch 2022 AFL National Draft Discussion - read the pinned post

[Strapping Young Lad]

National AFL draft Monday November 28(first round only).
All other selections to be held on Tuesday November 29.
The pre-season and rookie drafts will then take place at 3pm (AEST) on Wednesday November 30.

 

[Dewyyyyy]

Cam MacKenzie is the answer to all our problems, great balance as an inside and outside mid, a beast around stoppage, quick and damaging forward of centre, 187cm and is a solid defensive mid, as in running both ways.

 

[eldorado]

Cam MacKenzie is the answer to all our problems

 

[KermitJagger]

Height in a mid is nice, but it's behind skill, ball-winning abililty, strength, pace and decision making.

If you have two players you rank evenly on the last five, sure, go with the taller one.

As some coach said a while back, in contested situations, the ball is on the ground way more often. Being taller there won't help.

Seeing a big Cripps or Petracca bust through a pack, or take a ball overhead, always makes us want that, but the majority of their work is down and dirty, not because of their height.

And Petracca isn't even that tall, 187cm I believe. That 3 additional cm to most midfielders isn't making a world of difference.

 

[Dewyyyyy]

Well he brings every facet we're looking for, he's an above average height, he's classy and is damaging, but he's also really good at the contest and is a competitor and a genuine ball winner.

 

[TylerDurden]

Who do you like at our pick Tyler?

Wardlaw is the dream. But I think McKenzie will be the best at that pick to suit our needs. Unless we can trade up.

 

[RIOLINWITPUNCHS]

Wardlaw is the dream. But I think McKenzie will be the best at that pick to suit our needs. Unless we can trade up.

Did someone have word that Essendon are keen on Mackenzie?

 

[rei154]

What happened to the Munkara hype?
The kid was everywhere earlier in the year and I've not heard any mail on him in ages.

 

[RIOLINWITPUNCHS]

What happened to the Munkara hype?
The kid was everywhere earlier in the year and I've not heard any mail on him in ages.

Perhaps Essendon told him to go easy.

They have access to him if not picked in the top 40.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

talk is that he might go pick 1 to the Kangas, before or after Ashcroft bid.

 

[Davo-27]

some rumours going around, North are not sure if they are taking Wardlaw or Sheezel, mainly because Wardlaw has had a few hamstring injuries and they are not sure if this will affect him in his career, also Sheezel as reported before has the most 200 pt champions data games ever recorded and that is tempting to North seeing as they have surplus midfield talent(wce will take whichever 1 North dont take), also GWS new coach has said he is looking for pace/speed which indicates they might be looking at Tsatas at their pick, apparently dodoro is keen on MacKenzie(which a few essendon fans are reporting), thats the news out of Essendon which means we might not have access to either Hawks supporting youngsters, G.C. have 2 picks(adelaides pick for Rankine most likely) and are linked to Busslinger with 1 of their picks and maybe Hollands at their other but thats unknown atm, they might take cadman before our pick then Busslinger after and try and trade in later for Hollands?, which some GCS fans are hoping to do, this is just speculation atm, but if this scenario plays out we might be looking at Cadman, Clark. Phillipou or Jefferson at our pick?.

 

[TylerDurden]

some rumours going around, North are not sure if they are taking Wardlaw or Sheezel, mainly because Wardlaw has had a few hamstring injuries and they are not sure if this will affect him in his career, also Sheezel as reported before has the most 200 pt champions data games ever recorded and that is tempting to North seeing as they have surplus midfield talent(wce will take whichever 1 North dont take), also GWS new coach has said he is looking for pace/speed which indicates they might be looking at Tsatas at their pick, apparently dodoro is keen on MacKenzie(which a few essendon fans are reporting), thats the news out of Essendon which means we might not have access to either Hawks supporting youngsters, G.C. have 2 picks(adelaides pick for Rankine most likely) and are linked to Busslinger with 1 of their picks and maybe Hollands at their other but thats unknown atm.

That means Cadman/ Clark for us.

 

[Sixpence]

That means Cadman/ Clark for us.

Or Hewett

 

[Davo-27]

That means Cadman/ Clark for us.

Or Hewett

i added this to the end of the post

they(GC) might take cadman before our pick then Busslinger after and try and trade in later for Hollands?, which some GCS fans are hoping to do, this is just speculation atm, but if this scenario plays out we might be looking at Cadman, Clark. Phillipou or Jefferson at our pick?.


things can change though.

 

[Teamwork Talks]

That means Cadman/ Clark for us.

So that's a 195cm Key forward versus a 181cm Midfieldler.
Who would you take Tyler?

I'd probably go Cadman because key forwards are harder to find than midfielders. But we desperately need midfielders.

 

[Bugs1977]

I agree we need that, which is why I like Sheezel despite him not necessarily being a tall mid. He plays forward but has dominated in the midfield also. He'll develop into the best player from this draft imo.

Agreed

 

[Topiary]

And Ward is probably a cm shorter than MacDonald. (From pics of them next to each other.)

And generally uses it well. Will only get better as he gets fitter and stronger.

 

[Judd2Sewell]

Just did a deep dive into highlights of players at the pointy end. The Sheezel highlights vs. Tasmania are enough to make you cry. Incredible creative handball, goal kicking, ball winning, composure, skills and run.

Better still, he hasn't even come close to filling out his frame.

The hype is true – he could be ridiculous, damn it.

Reminds me of Wingard with his vision and creative handballs that others just wouldn't see and his all-around class.

I really hope we move up the order with North or WCE and bring him home.

 

[Judd2Sewell]

I agree we need that, which is why I like Sheezel despite him not necessarily being a tall mid. He plays forward but has dominated in the midfield also. He'll develop into the best player from this draft imo.

Agree, Sheezel is the number one talent IMO. He's shown he can dominate playing as a forward and playing through the middle.

 

[pushintheback]

Even the Kangas are promoting Sheezel's 3 x 200pt games. That's where he's headed.

 

[Coathanger]

i added this to the end of the post

they(GC) might take cadman before our pick then Busslinger after and try and trade in later for Hollands?, which some GCS fans are hoping to do, this is just speculation atm, but if this scenario plays out we might be looking at Cadman, Clark. Phillipou or Jefferson at our pick?.


things can change though.

I’m guessing Jefferson could be too early for our first pick but I think he’s a Gunston replacement for the future.
I’d be happy with Mackenzie and Jefferson/Dowling/Hustwaite with first 2 picks.

 

[fairdinks]

as has been written elsewhere, it is unlikely Wardlaw or Sheezel will be available for us. Id love Sheezel, but would be wrapped if Tsatsas was still on the board. Also unlikely however.


That leaves a top mid or forward for us......Cadman may be still there? I am not sure WC go for Hewitt/Ginbey at pick 2/3 as a bit high IMO.. Maybe they are on our radar, but not my pref I must admit.

I’m guessing Jefferson could be too early for our first pick but I think he’s a Gunston replacement for the future.
I’d be happy with Mackenzie and Jefferson/Dowling/Hustwaite with first 2 picks.

Id be happy with Cadman/McKenzie with our first and hope the 'Big Szybkowski' is still n the board for our 2nd. A unit and he tackles.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

Thread has now had a major clean up. No speculative trades, who you like on our list, or what size you think a midfielder needs to be.

Read the pinned post.

There’s a list management thread and a trade/draft thread for discussing draft and trade.

 

[TylerDurden]

 

[TylerDurden]

 

[Roger Rogerson]

Maybe not Wardlaw’s fault, but after the rave reviews I was surprised that in the first 2 mins of that clip that there weren’t many examples of him hitting a player who takes a mark inside forward 50. Most were to contests that resulted in spilled marks.

Again, maybe says more about his teammates, but I wasn’t as blown away as some seem to be.

I've seen him live and not sold on his kicking either.