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Anyone know the name of the AFL Umpire, who was 1 of 4 arrested over betting on the Brownlow ?



I remember arguing with Plugger about umpires likely to be involved in betting scandals. Doesn't surprise me one bit. Where there is money and gambling there is corruption.
 

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Geez, during the year I said the umps we're on the take! I was only joking because it seemed too obvious to be believable hahaha

Is why whispers is factual.

These are people we are dealing with, in a professional sport where they are largely beyond reproach and answer to themselves in one great big circle jerk, as without them, there's no game. You piss one off or get lax on anything, and all it takes is 1 person to straight ruin something.

In say the BFL, I have literally been witness to an umpire pre match telling the visiting team how they were going to F them, then after said match remarking how great it was to get a win and bend them over in the attached pub. He umpired the very next week. Sure something I witnessed decades ago, but hey if bookies can get into cricket, soccer being corrupt with money and other sporting ventures, the tiny AFL is not suddenly going to be immune to it.

No one just wants to do anything about it in the house, and it's victim blaming if you make any other statement really.
 
I remember arguing with Plugger about umpires likely to be involved in betting scandals. Doesn't surprise me one bit. Where there is money and gambling there is corruption.
Same with me. Was told by him it would never happen.
This is just the one we know about.
 

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I went to the very first nrl magic round in Brisbane. Four days in a corporate box every game. Plus extra festivities each night. It was a massive endurance test. Got some strange looks when I put the Saints game on the corporate box tv.
 

Gowers: Kennett tweets leave Hawks with a Dingley black hole​

Michael Gleeson

ByMichael Gleeson

November 13, 2022 — 6.57pm
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Hawthorn presidential hopeful Andy Gowers has accused outgoing president Jeff Kennett of leaving the club with a $25 million funding black hole for the delayed new Dingley home with “late night tweets” criticising the state government.
Gowers said Kennett’s behaviour had meant the state government had withheld a $15m funding commitment and had deterred wealthy benefactors from contributing a further $10m to the club’s funding for Dingley, leaving Hawthorn with a shortfall of $25 million.
Andy Gowers, right, with 1991 Hawks premiership teammate Gary Ayres. Ayres endorsed Gowers for president at the online rally on Sunday.

Andy Gowers, right, with 1991 Hawks premiership teammate Gary Ayres. Ayres endorsed Gowers for president at the online rally on Sunday. CREDIT:GETTY IMAGES
Gowers, who is standing with former Andrews government deputy premier James Merlino, said Kennett had damaged the club’s relationship with the state government and cost the club funding.
Gowers said in an online Hawks For Change rally for his presidential push that his campaign opponent and Kennett’s replacement as president, Peter Nankivell, had been Kennett’s vice president for five years and would continue to be Kennett’s proxy as president.

In his first comments to The Age last week launching his campaign for president, Nankivell insisted he was “no Kennett”.
“Let’s start with the facts, the concept of Dingley was committed to when I was still on the board, so five years ago in 2017. We fast-forward to now and there was a recent announcement of Dingley not being ready until 2025, so that is a further delay,” Gowers said.
“We are unfortunately in an environment where inflation is running rampant, construction costs are rising rapidly, labour is hard to get to deliver projects, and we have a Kennett black hole in our Dingley plans in terms of the funding.
Outgoing Hawks president Jeff Kennett.

Outgoing Hawks president Jeff Kennett.CREDIT:AFL PHOTOS
“So why is that the case? Every single person listening today would understand that late-night tweets from our outgoing president Jeff Kennett criticising government officials does not help our cause when we look to the state government for funding.

“In addition, I personally know of several prominent Hawthorn people who simply won’t be giving us money for Dingley until the outgoing president and his proxies are out of the club.
“It stands to reason, then, that Jeff Kennett’s hand-picked successor and my opponent, Peter Nankivell, and let’s remember Peter has been Jeff Kennett’s vice president for the past five years, is linked to this issue we are now facing as a club. We should receive funding based on our funding, not on our late night social media activity.”

Gowers told The Age after the online rally that the club had announced it had been granted $15m in state government funding, but this money was still listed as in “contingency” and had not been released.
“In addition I am advised from a number of club benefactors that the Time to Fly campaign is under-funded by in excess of $10m,” Gowers said.

In the online rally, Gowers strongly criticised the handling of Alastair Clarkson’s removal from the club, committed to spending 100 per cent of the soft cap on football spending, and hiring a full-time general manager of Indigenous affairs.
“The release of the Egan report into our relationship with our First Nations players and staff was, and is, deeply painful and damaging, for everyone involved,” Gowers said, adding that during his previous stint as football director on the board he had no knowledge of the issues raised in the report.
“The contents of that report are shocking, and the issues raised are incredibly complex. At the same time, I’m deeply uncomfortable with the fact that those accused of the allegations have not had the opportunity to speak.
“So I support the AFL’s independent inquiry so that there can be healing for all involved. We can’t be content with being ‘culturally safe’, Hawthorn should be the benchmark, not the bare minimum.
“It’s a very low bar to aim to be culturally safe. Surely, that’s the minimum. We want to be leaders, not doing the minimum.”

Clarkson, and fellow former Hawks employees Chris Fagan and Jason Burt, have rejected the allegations made against them and have committed to speaking to the AFL probe.
Turbulent relationship: Hawthorn president Jeff Kennett and coach Alastair Clarkson pictured in 2018.

Turbulent relationship: Hawthorn president Jeff Kennett and coach Alastair Clarkson pictured in 2018. CREDIT:GETTY IMAGES
Four of the Hawthorn past players and families at the centre of the racism scandal have also agreed to participate in the AFL’s investigation into the affair.
Gowers said the club was in bad shape and had lost respect within the AFL.
“Last year we all watched in shock as our modern-day champion coach, Alastair Clarkson, was sent packing from our club,” he said.

“We saw Clarko being treated like a stranger, rather than the successful coach, who guided us out of an era in the footy doldrums, and onto four flags, the most of any coach in our history.
“We tuned in with despair seeing Clarko sitting on one side of a hastily convened, very awkward media conference, and listened to Jeff begin with the words, ‘The board has decided not to renew Alastair’s contract’ and it stirred up a hornets’ nest of emotions.”
Gowers said the timing might have been right for Clarkson to move on, but it was badly handled and lacked respect.
“We watched on in disbelief, and the financial settlement [to Clarkson] has meant that we were
unable to pay the full soft-cap in the football department this year, which hinders our football program,” he said.

Can't see this huge development happening in the wake of recent events. Kennett is just stating the obvious and people are looking for someone to blame.

Money is being pulled from a lot of projects. Costs are spiralling, delays are long and governments are pulling their purse strings.

Hawthorn will now be stuck in at their oval in a housing estate, while we have state of the art facilities.

The tide is turning.
 
Can't see this huge development happening in the wake of recent events. Kennett is just stating the obvious and people are looking for someone to blame.

Money is being pulled from a lot of projects. Costs are spiralling, delays are long and governments are pulling their purse strings.

Hawthorn will now be stuck in at their oval in a housing estate, while we have state of the art facilities.

The tide is turning.
The business case was a wonderful example of hubris.
$135mill declared cost of development announced only weeks after the threepeat.
Based on a continuing $4mill pa from TAS government and $4mill pa from pokies.
I think their ambitions will be dramatically reduced.
The smartest thing would be to stay at Waverley.
 
The business case was a wonderful example of hubris.
$135mill declared cost of development announced only weeks after the threepeat.
Based on a continuing $4mill pa from TAS government and $4mill pa from pokies.
I think their ambitions will be dramatically reduced.
The smartest thing would be to stay at Waverley.

I thought a large reason for spending the money was so they didn't report massive profits meaning that some of those profits had to be distributed to other, less profitable clubs.
 
Can't see this huge development happening in the wake of recent events. Kennett is just stating the obvious and people are looking for someone to blame.

Money is being pulled from a lot of projects. Costs are spiralling, delays are long and governments are pulling their purse strings.

Hawthorn will now be stuck in at their oval in a housing estate, while we have state of the art facilities.

The tide is turning.

That’s a pity after all the preliminary work they’ve done on the site

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