List Mgmt. 2022 List Management and trading thread

[Scorpus]

I saw this format on the West Coast board and thought it might help understand our current list position

 

[Mego Red]

IMO trading Sholl would be a surprising move .....I understand the education on developing a more contested game

Hell, we don't want a Jayden Stephenson type player

Sholl has been very good in the SANFL the past month. He seems AFL quality - we just seems a bit full of players wanting to play wing positions (or being shoved there, like Hately).

 

[SellarStardom]

Fogarty not signed beyond this season, now showing his wares and Melbourne hunting a key forward....

 

[1990crow]

Fogarty not signed beyond this season, now showing his wares and Melbourne hunting a key forward....

Imagine that.

 

[MRB37]

Fogarty not signed beyond this season, now showing his wares and Melbourne hunting a key forward....

Fogarty is signed until the end of 2023.

 

[Mutineer]

Imagine that.

Fogarty, Murphy re-sign with Crows

The duo will remain at West Lakes until at least 2023

www.afc.com.au

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Thats why geelong and richmond would be in the box seat. Their 1st round picks are much more in the hitting zone than ours is

Correct ....end of 1st round seems about the right spot ....given it's a bit of a salary dump

 

[WeedsMullet84]

That's a lot of deadwood.

 

[hippyhippy]

Lots of reports that gws are having another fire sale due to cap space issues... taranto, Hopper amongst the names. Taranto probably not gettable but Hopper is nsw? Is he gettable? We should have a large chunk of cap space... pay him overs.

 

[Mutineer]

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That's a lot of deadwood.

Nankervis got 2 years so he's 2023 I'm pretty sure.

 

[Bazz_27]

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That's a lot of deadwood.

Fair bit of list turnover happening in the next 2 years. Hard to see us keep more than 50% for the 24 season

 

[Sanders]

Interestingly on SEN they just said Sholl to Carlton will not be happening. Given they like to create drama this surprises me and I take it on face value despite their track record showing their are incompetent

They don’t want him either?

 

[WaynesWorld19]

They don’t want him either?

You don't want Scholl ?

 

[Sanders]

I think getting rid of players we don't want to keep is a pretty good strategy.

I'm more worried about being stuck with players that we've realised we don't want to keep, but I guess that happens with giving kids an extra year or so.

Whether “What we want” is sound strategy depends on the quality of our decision making.

Bad clubs stay down because they make bad decisions. Are we a good club?

 

[Sanders]

You don't want Scholl ?

F*** no.

 

[Anzacpaul]

F*** no.

Yeah I'd be happy to let Sholl go too. Decent foot skills, but slightly and a bit squibbish.

 

[crows dude]

You don't want Scholl ?

No but i would have Sholl

Sorry couldn't resist.

 

[dogs105]

We’ve gotten around it by not wanting to keep them.

If we didn't want McGovern, Crouch or Cameron, the question is 'why?"

 

[Sanders]

If we didn't want McGovern, Crouch or Cameron, the question is 'why?"

Because we were too clever by half.

Like Baldrick we had cunning plans

 

[dogs105]

Because we were too clever by half.

Like Baldrick we had cunning plans

Off loading Cameron - so cunning you could stick a tail on it, and call it a weasel

 

[DJ75]

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That's a lot of deadwood.

My list (Delisted):

Gone at end of 2022

Ben Davis
Brett Turner
Elliot Himmelberg
James Borlase
James Rowe
Matt Crouch (traded)
Fisher McAsey (traded - I suspect he will want a fresh start in Victoria)

Gone at end of 2023:
Billy Frampton
Andrew McPherson
Luke Brown
Paul Seedsman

 

[WeedsMullet84]

My list (Delisted):

Gone at end of 2022

Ben Davis
Brett Turner
Elliot Himmelberg
James Borlase
James Rowe
Matt Crouch (traded)
Fisher McAsey (traded - I suspect he will want a fresh start in Victoria)

Gone at end of 2023:
Billy Frampton
Andrew McPherson
Luke Brown
Paul Seedsman

I am not sure you would find a buyer for McAsey at all, you're more likely to find one for Himmelberg.

Frampton will probably be kept as depth as he can cover FWD/DEF

Jackson Hately might be one to get moved on next year. We aren't close to having a spot available for him.

That is a BIG chunk of our experienced players out of contract next year.

 

[Mego Red]

Whether “What we want” is sound strategy depends on the quality of our decision making.

Bad clubs stay down because they make bad decisions. Are we a good club?

It's best that it's our decision.

Then, if it's wrong, we know where the responsibility lies.

 

[Gtowncrow]

Does anyone know how player payments are handled regarding long term injuries?

Also, is a typical contract inclusive or exclusive of various bonuses? If exclusive, how do these effect the salary cap.

I'd find it interesting, if someone had some insight, to learn a few more details of how these types of matters work.

 

[Mego Red]

If we didn't want McGovern, Crouch or Cameron, the question is 'why?"

McGovern was a very sound decision. lever wasn't.

Cameron - understandable why they did it, though it's proven to be very wrong.

Brad Crouch - seems like the right decision now, watching how St Kilda's midfield is going.

 

[Dewy006]

My list (Delisted):

Gone at end of 2022

Ben Davis
Brett Turner
Elliot Himmelberg
James Borlase
James Rowe
Matt Crouch (traded)
Fisher McAsey (traded - I suspect he will want a fresh start in Victoria)

Gone at end of 2023:
Billy Frampton
Andrew McPherson
Luke Brown
Paul Seedsman

Worrell would be the one I’d keep my eye on in this years trade period, not McAsey. He’s shown enough form in the seconds IMO for Vic clubs to come knocking with the offer of more opportunity.