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With Ashcroft, it could very well be his Manager driving the angle at the moment.
Pretty sure I heard that there was talk of similar with Daicos, which drove Collingwood to offer an extra couple of years before he was even drafted, probably at exorbitant money for his 3rd and 4th years.
Could be a similar ploy?


“The club has signed Daicos for a four-year deal, which includes two for his standard first contract, which is not unusual for players who commit to clubs as draftees, with father-sons Joe Daniher (Essendon) and Nick Blakey (Sydney) others who have agreed to longer deals when nominating.”
 
With Ashcroft, it could very well be his Manager driving the angle at the moment.
Pretty sure I heard that there was talk of similar with Daicos, which drove Collingwood to offer an extra couple of years before he was even drafted, probably at exorbitant money for his 3rd and 4th years.
Could be a similar ploy?


“The club has signed Daicos for a four-year deal, which includes two for his standard first contract, which is not unusual for players who commit to clubs as draftees, with father-sons Joe Daniher (Essendon) and Nick Blakey (Sydney) others who have agreed to longer deals when nominating.”

Wouldn't surprise me at all but regardless if it's money tactics every single father son always says they're undecided this far out. Pretty sure Nick Daicos said he loved Gold Coast's pitch and seriously considered nominating for the draft but I doubt he ever really did. I don't think it was locked in that he would definitively go to the Pies until August.

I'll be upset if Ashcroft chooses to nominate the draft but I don't see why he would. Comes straight to a top 4 club, with an environment and coaching staff with which he's familiar, plus a young list that should be well placed for an extended finals tilt. We also have a few midfielders on the other side of 30 which means there will soon be spots up for grab and potentially a chance to play finals early in his career.

Is this just the lingering impact of Marc Murphy passing on us that has us a bit spooked? Until that dumb article came out everyone was really confident he was a sure thing.
 

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Wouldn't surprise me at all but regardless if it's money tactics every single father son always says they're undecided this far out. Pretty sure Nick Daicos said he loved Gold Coast's pitch and seriously considered nominating for the draft but I doubt he ever really did. I don't think it was locked in that he would definitively go to the Pies until August.

I'll be upset if Ashcroft chooses to nominate the draft but I don't see why he would. Comes straight to a top 4 club, with an environment and coaching staff with which he's familiar, plus a young list that should be well placed for an extended finals tilt. We also have a few midfielders on the other side of 30 which means there will soon be spots up for grab and potentially a chance to play finals early in his career.

Is this just the lingering impact of Marc Murphy passing on us that has us a bit spooked? Until that dumb article came out everyone was really confident he was a sure thing.
I am still confident, if the club wants him on their list then he will be a Lion.
 
I am still confident, if the club wants him on their list then he will be a Lion.
Hard to know . The part about him being at uni. and living in Melbourne resonated with me as far as teenagers go.

The thing is he and his dad will likely know already whether he wants to come to Brisbane under father/son. They've had time to suss it out.

So unless we get some inside intell. it's just a matter of waiting it out.
 
If Ashcroft came out strong and said I’ve made mind up, can’t wait to get to the Lions etc then the pundits would be asking why so strong, so early. He’s playing a reasonably straight bat without giving the absolute standard answers
 
I agree.

It's a big decision for a young man and is eerily reminiscent of the Murphy situation except the club was on the way down then and it's hard not to think we're on the way up.

Either way he's obviously an extreme talent and whatever he decides is the choice he's entitled to take.
 
Until that dumb article came out everyone was really confident he was a sure thing.
Not everyone.

He’s got his mates, his family, and now his uni all in Melbourne.

That’s why I was wondering why people were so confident.

Fingers crossed he comes up but if you put yourself in his shoes you certainly wouldn’t blame him for staying.
 
Not everyone.

He’s got his mates, his family, and now his uni all in Melbourne.

That’s why I was wondering why people were so confident.

Fingers crossed he comes up but if you put yourself in his shoes you certainly wouldn’t blame him for staying.

It isn't a matter of him choosing Brisbane or Victoria, it's a matter of him choosing Brisbane or one of the bottom few teams. The bottom few are no guarantee to be Victorian either.

Not that that matters - he'll be a Lion.
 
Not that that matters - he'll be a Lion.
Well just remember that if he isn't a Lion by the end of the year, I and everyone else on this club forum will be waiting in the wings to collect their premium season membership from you for the upcoming season in 2023, no pressure at all Ashcroft to not choose us :p
 
Well just remember that if he isn't a Lion by the end of the year, I and everyone else on this club forum will be waiting in the wings to collect their premium season membership from you for the upcoming season in 2023, no pressure at all Ashcroft to not choose us :p

Haha! I'm not worried though - the media will get mileage out of it despite behind closed doors he is as good as a lock. In fact, I'd go as far as to say if he could have been drafted last year he would have nominated Brisbane and would be facing Port. ;)
 
Haha! I'm not worried though - the media will get mileage out of it despite behind closed doors he is as good as a lock. In fact, I'd go as far as to say if he could have been drafted last year he would have nominated Brisbane and would be facing Port. ;)
Even if he a lock.
The media need stories. Some of them even true most are for headlines:)
 

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A series of pre-season workshops has led the Lions to adopt a more streamlined leadership group for season 2022.

Dayne Zorko and Harris Andrews return as captain and vice-captain and will be supported by another six returning players to an eight-man leadership group.

In a series of sessions led by Simon Fletcher of Leading Teams, players were encouraged to explore what leadership meant to them, what they wanted from the team’s leaders and what was the best model for the side.

GM of Football Danny Daly said from those meetings the players decided they wanted to reduce the group to eight players.

A vote was then cast, and the top eight vote getters were selected.

Returning to the group are 2021 All Australian Daniel Rich, defensive stalwarts Darcy Gardiner and Ryan Lester, champion midfielder Lachie Neale and his best mate and forward line general Linc McCarthy and emerging champion Hugh McCluggage.

Daly said the captain and vice-captain positions were unanimous while the returning six players were all exemplary characters who led by an example both on and off the field.

“Dayne and Harris were lay down misere’s which is no surprise as they are exceptional leaders of our footy Club,’’ he said.

“Leadership is critical to our success, and it is something we want the players to take ownership of.

Dayne Zorko is ready to hit the ground running in round 1 against Port Adelaide.

“We did some work on that over the pre-season and we’ve been really pleased with the way the players responded and took more control of what leadership looks like at our club.

“Each of these players are different personalities and they all lead in their own ways, and we think that is terrific great for our group.

“But they trait they all share is care for their teammates and our footy Club and a firm commitment to living our values.

“They all deserve this honour, and we look forward to seeing what this group will achieve in 2022.
 
A series of pre-season workshops has led the Lions to adopt a more streamlined leadership group for season 2022.

Dayne Zorko and Harris Andrews return as captain and vice-captain and will be supported by another six returning players to an eight-man leadership group.

In a series of sessions led by Simon Fletcher of Leading Teams, players were encouraged to explore what leadership meant to them, what they wanted from the team’s leaders and what was the best model for the side.

GM of Football Danny Daly said from those meetings the players decided they wanted to reduce the group to eight players.

A vote was then cast, and the top eight vote getters were selected.

Returning to the group are 2021 All Australian Daniel Rich, defensive stalwarts Darcy Gardiner and Ryan Lester, champion midfielder Lachie Neale and his best mate and forward line general Linc McCarthy and emerging champion Hugh McCluggage.

Daly said the captain and vice-captain positions were unanimous while the returning six players were all exemplary characters who led by an example both on and off the field.

“Dayne and Harris were lay down misere’s which is no surprise as they are exceptional leaders of our footy Club,’’ he said.

“Leadership is critical to our success, and it is something we want the players to take ownership of.

Dayne Zorko is ready to hit the ground running in round 1 against Port Adelaide.

“We did some work on that over the pre-season and we’ve been really pleased with the way the players responded and took more control of what leadership looks like at our club.

“Each of these players are different personalities and they all lead in their own ways, and we think that is terrific great for our group.

“But they trait they all share is care for their teammates and our footy Club and a firm commitment to living our values.

“They all deserve this honour, and we look forward to seeing what this group will achieve in 2022.
A Streamlined 8 man leadership group.
 
A Streamlined 8 man leadership group.
This crossed my mind too and I couldn't help but laugh.

"Captain, ok, vice-captain, makes sense... wait, there's still a lot of names here?"
 
This crossed my mind too and I couldn't help but laugh.

"Captain, ok, vice-captain, makes sense... wait, there's still a lot of names here?"
Who was the coach that said we want every one of our players to be a leader ?

I think that was Fagan wasn't it.

They might have to call time out if someone needs to decide something quickly on the field. And get a consensus from the Board.
 
We had a 10 man leadership group last year. I imagine this is where the "streamlined" reference comes from.
Everyone understood that, thus the smirk and sarcasm even though two were streamlined an eight man leadership group still is a bit of a joke.
The only surprising element in the announcement is we did not go to a sixteen man leadership group.:)
 

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