List Mgmt. 2022 Trade and Free Agency Thread

[Jivlain]

 

[bato]

Pick 35 for McStay.

 

[blueiris]

The McStay Compo seems right it values him at 500 points we probably trade it for a couple of 3rd round picks which gets Us more value

 

[Harris Specter]

Pick 35 for McStay.

Damn, not sure if I'm disappointed or neutral.
It gives us points, but damn, it feels like a lot lower of a compensation than expected.

 

[JasRulz63]

Pick 35 for McStay.

Band 3 makes sense given the rumoured contract and the other compensation given out in recent years (and Karl Amon).

 

[dlanod]

Damn, not sure if I'm disappointed or neutral.
It gives us points, but damn, it feels like a lot lower of a compensation than expected.

No offence intended if it included yourself, but if anyone expected more it was more just based off hope than anything realistic.

 

[Nathan Barley]

Pick 35 for McStay.

Ouch

 

[pulpdriver]

Pick 35 for McStay.

Expected but disappointing. Was hoping we'd fall across the line for band 2.

 

[briztoon]

Wonder if we're doing any dodgy dealings to get band 2 for McStay

How?

He’s an unrestricted free agent. We have no capacity to match and threaten to force a trade.

Collingwood don’t have to manipulate his salary to get us band 2, like we did with Daniher to get Essendon band 1.


From everything that’s been reported, he has a similar offer to what Karl Amon received.

If the deal hasn’t gone through yet, it’s likely because Collingwood have a lot going on, and are potentially struggling with fitting all their potential new contracts under the tpp.

 

[Harris Specter]

No offence intended if it included yourself, but if anyone expected more it was more just based off hope than anything realistic.

I would have thought the contract offered x number of years would have perked it up towards mid 20's at the very best.

 

[briztoon]

Pick 35 for McStay.

That’s what it was always going to be.

 

[Nathan Barley]

How?

He’s an unrestricted free agent. We have no capacity to match and threaten to force a trade.

Collingwood don’t have to manipulate his salary to get us band 2, like we did with Daniher to get Essendon band 1.


From everything that’s been reported, he has a similar offer to what Karl Amon received.

If the deal hasn’t gone through yet, it’s likely because Collingwood have a lot going on, and are potentially struggling with fitting all their potential new contracts under the tpp.

You're a very black and white person aren't you Briz?

 

[briztoon]

Damn, not sure if I'm disappointed or neutral.
It gives us points, but damn, it feels like a lot lower of a compensation than expected.

It’s band 3, which is tied to our finishing position. If we had finished 17th, it would be pick 21.

 

[briztoon]

You're a very black and white person aren't you Briz?

Mostly, yes.

 

[briztoon]

I would have thought the contract offered x number of years would have perked it up towards mid 20's at the very best.

The compensation formula doesn’t work that way.

 

[dlanod]

I would have thought the contract offered x number of years would have perked it up towards mid 20's at the very best.

Because of the bands it was either going to be:

• Pick 16 (band 1) - if he got a Daniher-style contract.
• Pick 19 (band 2) - if he got a $700k-ish pa contract.
• Pick 35 (band 3) - if he got a $600k-650k-ish pa contract, which is what was being reported.
• Pick 38 (band 4) - if he got a ~$500-550k-ish pa contract.

And then there's band 5 and no compensation, which are rare.

Literally impossible for us to get anything in the mid-20s as a result.

 

[On the quiet]

Amazing how quickly we forget how good JL was before his groin injury. 20+ Brownlow votes in 2021 and 7 votes in the early rounds this year before his OP.

True, but what annoys me is that Lions continued picking him even though he apparently was injured and was struggling over Dev.

 

[rye]

Roo's overpaying for kids as well.

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/subscribe/news/1/?sourceCode=HSWEB_WRE170_a&dest=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.heraldsun.com.au%2Fsport%2Fafl%2Ftrade-hq%2Fafl-trades-2022-no1-draft-pick-jason-hornefrancis-wants-to-be-traded-to-port-adelaide%2Fnews-story%2F5b8fb7d38c03ff482beead2b605f4109&memtype=anonymous&mode=premium&v21=dynamic-groupb-test-noscore&V21spcbehaviour=append

not just the kids

 

[Nathan Barley]

Some excellent melting on the freo board

 

[Squizz89]

So with the McStay compo pick does that make it a little more likely we may have to give up a contracted player to get everything done or doesn’t make much difference?

 

[pulpdriver]

Some excellent melting on the freo board

I didn't think it was too bad. They should end up 19 and 37 disregarding any compo/priority pick stuff.

 

[iBeng]

Is this the fabled war chest North has always bragged about?

 

[Nathan Barley]

I didn't think it was too bad. They should end up 19 and 37 disregarding any compo/priority pick stuff.

Yeah given Tucker is a dud and Logue is borderline best 22 it isn't the worst outcome

 

[Nathan Barley]

Is this the fabled war chest North has always bragged about?

Yep it's netted them Polec and Logue

 

[Pns_blister]

So with the McStay compo pick does that make it a little more likely we may have to give up a contracted player to get everything done or doesn’t make much difference?

Nah if anything just means more likely to go into deficit next year. I don't think we will be moving any players out that we don't want to.

 

[Nat Fyfe]

Some excellent melting on the freo board

Just wait til they trade Lobb for a late 2nd instead of the 1st some are expecting