List Mgmt. 2022 Trade and Free Agency Thread

[Jivlain]

 

[mpal6]

Nek minut comes back to Brisbane and has an AA season in a flag winning team.

Won't be surprised if he plays better with us.
He would have a lot more support and can pretty much run up n down the wing as he likes.
But he won't be useful in contested ball which is our bread n butter to be selected, so that's a no.

 

[Warwick]

He’s played far more games of AFL than I or anyone else on here has played, and good luck to him, but the definition of a seagull.

His ability to call for the ball while standing stationary near the boundary 15m away from the ball carrier will go down in the annals.

 

[jfn]

List changes. 9 player out, and 6 back in. Dunkley, Gunston, Ashcroft, Fletcher, Lester and Cockatoo rookie re-drafted.

Are there any rumours or thoughts on filling the last 3 spots?

Are Oscar McDonald

21

Oscar Mcdonald

Age

28

Ht

196cm

Wt

100kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.2

3star

K

7.9

3star

HB

5.2

4star

M

4.2

4star

T

1.6

4star

MG

191.4

3star

D

11.3

3star

K

7.7

3star

HB

3.7

3star

M

3.7

4star

T

1.7

3star

MG

157.7

3star

D

14.8

4star

K

5.4

2star

HB

9.4

5star

M

4.4

4star

T

0.4

3star

MG

138.4

3star

and Narkle worth looking at as delisted free agents?

 

[Nathan Barley]

List changes. 9 player out, and 6 back in. Dunkley, Gunston, Ashcroft, Fletcher, Lester and Cockatoo rookie re-drafted.

Are there any rumours or thoughts on filling the last 3 spots?

Are Oscar McDonald and Narkle worth looking at as delisted free agents?

McDowell-White as well

 

[jfn]

McDowell-White as well

That’s right. Darryl’s boy was mentioned.
2 spots to go.
Do they hang out for a couple of long-shots in the draft, or look at a one or two delisted free agents.
I’m thinking McDonald as a DFA on a two year contract as a back up key position. Or see what Narkle has to offer. He has McCarthy, Cockatoo, and Fort as support.
2023 picks and draft are going to be slim pickings for Brisbane. Might be worth getting the “best of the rest” now.

 

[briztoon]

List changes. 9 player out, and 6 back in. Dunkley, Gunston, Ashcroft, Fletcher, Lester and Cockatoo rookie re-drafted.

Are there any rumours or thoughts on filling the last 3 spots?

Are Oscar McDonald and Narkle worth looking at as delisted free agents?

Where would Narkle sit on the depth chart of mids, considering his ball use is worse that Mathieson’s.

 

[briztoon]

Can we run with, a senior list of 36 players, a rookie list of 6 players, and 2 Cat B rookies?

 

[jfn]

Where would Narkle sit on the depth chart of mids, considering his ball use is worse that Mathieson’s.

He wouldn’t be high on an injury free list list, but he could bring the experience of training with the current premiers.

Thoughts on McDonald as a cheap backup tall?

 

[Quigley]

White will be a Cat B rookie and so won't take up a traditional list spot.

 

[Section 5]

Not sure how accurate this is from foxsports
Below from an article dated 2/11/2022

BRISBANE


Arrivals: Josh Dunkley

5

Josh Dunkley

Age

27

Ht

191cm

Wt

87kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

21.8

5star

K

10.4

4star

HB

11.3

5star

M

4.3

4star

T

5.8

5star

CL

3.2

5star

D

20.7

5star

K

7.0

3star

HB

13.7

5star

M

2.3

2star

T

5.3

5star

CL

2.7

4star

D

14.2

4star

K

7.2

3star

HB

7.0

5star

M

4.8

5star

T

4.0

5star

CL

1.4

4star

(traded/Western Bulldogs), Jack Gunston

19

Jack Gunston

Age

33

Ht

193cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

15.5

4star

K

10.5

4star

HB

5.0

4star

M

5.7

5star

T

2.2

4star

G

1.9

5star

D

10.6

3star

K

8.0

3star

HB

2.6

2star

M

4.3

4star

T

1.7

3star

G

1.6

5star

D

11.2

3star

K

7.0

3star

HB

4.2

4star

M

3.2

4star

T

2.6

4star

G

0.6

3star

(traded/Hawthorn)

Departures: Tom Berry (traded/Gold Coast), Nakia Cockatoo

12

Nakia Cockatoo

Age

28

Ht

185cm

Wt

90kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

9.6

2star

K

6.1

2star

HB

3.5

3star

M

2.6

3star

T

3.1

5star

G

0.7

4star

No current season stats available

D

6.6

2star

K

3.4

2star

HB

3.2

3star

M

2.2

3star

T

2.4

4star

G

0.2

3star

(delisted), Mitchell Cox (delisted), Ryan Lester

35

Ryan Lester

Age

32

Ht

192cm

Wt

84kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.9

4star

K

7.9

3star

HB

7.0

4star

M

3.9

4star

T

2.7

4star

MG

170.4

3star

D

10.3

3star

K

5.8

2star

HB

4.5

3star

M

2.7

3star

T

1.5

2star

MG

140.7

3star

D

12.6

4star

K

6.8

3star

HB

5.8

4star

M

3.8

4star

T

0.6

3star

(delisted), Connor McFadyen (delisted), Dan McStay (free agency), Mitch Robinson

5

Mitch Robinson

Age

35

Ht

184cm

Wt

89kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

19.9

5star

K

11.2

4star

HB

8.7

5star

M

4.1

4star

T

4.7

5star

CL

3.2

5star

D

15.8

4star

K

11.3

4star

HB

4.5

3star

M

3.9

4star

T

1.9

3star

CL

1.8

4star

D

13.2

4star

K

8.0

3star

HB

5.2

4star

M

4.0

4star

T

3.6

5star

(retired), Ely Smith (delisted), Deividas Uosis (delisted)

Uncontracted: None

Contracted: 37 (no category B rookies)

Draft picks: 34, 35, 36, 38, 55, 73

The Lions enter the national draft with 33 players on their senior list and will match likely first-round bids on father-son prospects Will Ashcroft and Jaspa Fletcher. They actively acquired more draft points in the trade period to help that cause and are expected to continue doing so. A third father-son-eligible player, Darryl McDowell-White, is set to join Brisbane as a category B rookie, while they are also committed to redrafting Nakia Cockatoo

12

Nakia Cockatoo

Age

28

Ht

185cm

Wt

90kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

9.6

2star

K

6.1

2star

HB

3.5

3star

M

2.6

3star

T

3.1

5star

G

0.7

4star

No current season stats available

D

6.6

2star

K

3.4

2star

HB

3.2

3star

M

2.2

3star

T

2.4

4star

G

0.2

3star

– who is already contracted for 2023 but not counted above – and Ryan Lester

35

Ryan Lester

Age

32

Ht

192cm

Wt

84kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.9

4star

K

7.9

3star

HB

7.0

4star

M

3.9

4star

T

2.7

4star

MG

170.4

3star

D

10.3

3star

K

5.8

2star

HB

4.5

3star

M

2.7

3star

T

1.5

2star

MG

140.7

3star

D

12.6

4star

K

6.8

3star

HB

5.8

4star

M

3.8

4star

T

0.6

3star

.

How your club is placed ahead of the list lodgement deadline and upcoming AFL draft

AFL draft state of play: How every team is placed and the key calls still be made in crucial month

www.foxsports.com.au

 

[Saucery]

The players set to change their club’s AFL fortunes in 2023​

BRISBANE LIONS

Jack Gunston

19

Jack Gunston

Age

33

Ht

193cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

15.5

4star

K

10.5

4star

HB

5.0

4star

M

5.7

5star

T

2.2

4star

G

1.9

5star

D

10.6

3star

K

8.0

3star

HB

2.6

2star

M

4.3

4star

T

1.7

3star

G

1.6

5star

D

11.2

3star

K

7.0

3star

HB

4.2

4star

M

3.2

4star

T

2.6

4star

G

0.6

3star

Gunston doesn’t have anything to prove given his stellar career, but the form he has shown when able to get out on the park in recent years suggests he will do wonders for the Lions if he gets through a pre-season unscathed. On a short-term basis, Gunston should prove a considerable upgrade on ex-Lion Dan McStay and in turn could bolster the Lions’ premiership hopes. It’s all about how Gunston’s body fares, but he has got a stack to offer if up and running.

Ready to relaunch: The players set to change their club’s AFL fortunes in 2023

Ready to relaunch: The players set to change their club’s AFL fortunes in 2023

www.foxsports.com.au

 

[Monkey Daniel]

The players set to change their club’s AFL fortunes in 2023​

BRISBANE LIONS

Jack Gunston

Gunston doesn’t have anything to prove given his stellar career, but the form he has shown when able to get out on the park in recent years suggests he will do wonders for the Lions if he gets through a pre-season unscathed. On a short-term basis, Gunston should prove a considerable upgrade on ex-Lion Dan McStay and in turn could bolster the Lions’ premiership hopes. It’s all about how Gunston’s body fares, but he has got a stack to offer if up and running.

Ready to relaunch: The players set to change their club’s AFL fortunes in 2023

Ready to relaunch: The players set to change their club’s AFL fortunes in 2023

www.foxsports.com.au

As Gerard Healey would say, just dip him in the holy water that is the Brisbane River

 

[JasRulz63]

The players set to change their club’s AFL fortunes in 2023​

BRISBANE LIONS

Jack Gunston

Gunston doesn’t have anything to prove given his stellar career, but the form he has shown when able to get out on the park in recent years suggests he will do wonders for the Lions if he gets through a pre-season unscathed. On a short-term basis, Gunston should prove a considerable upgrade on ex-Lion Dan McStay and in turn could bolster the Lions’ premiership hopes. It’s all about how Gunston’s body fares, but he has got a stack to offer if up and running.

Ready to relaunch: The players set to change their club’s AFL fortunes in 2023

Ready to relaunch: The players set to change their club’s AFL fortunes in 2023

www.foxsports.com.au

He seems to have recovered from his bulging disc in his back well after surgery in 2020, and ankle injuries he had this year were from an awkward landing and then another player falling on the back of the same ankle re-injuring it. Hopefully he gets a bit more luck next year!

I know they play different roles, but even with the injury interrupted season, he still kicked 32 goals from 16 games compared to 25 goals from 22 games for McStay.

 

[JasRulz63]

Can we run with, a senior list of 36 players, a rookie list of 6 players, and 2 Cat B rookies?

Yes.

Rules are 36-38 on the primary list and 0-6 category A rookies, with a limit of minimum of 37 and maximum of 42 across both those lists, and an additional 0-2 category B rookies.

 

[MSB ROYS]

As Gerard Healey would say, just dip him in the holy water that is the Brisbane River

I hope he doesn't swallow any of this Brisbane River holy water or get bitten by a bull shark!

 

[Section 5]

He seems to have recovered from his bulging disc in his back well after surgery in 2020, and ankle injuries he had this year were from an awkward landing and then another player falling on the back of the same ankle re-injuring it. Hopefully he gets a bit more luck next year!

I know they play different roles, but even with the injury interrupted season, he still kicked 32 goals from 16 games compared to 25 goals from 22 games for McStay.

I am quite happy to get Gunston as a good replacement forward after McStay's departure
As mentioned he is a different type to McStay, and closer to the end of his career being 31 years old for the 2023 season
But what a great addition to our side until someone else steps up
A solid season in 2022 with a struggling club
As you mentioned he had some issues in 2020 and 2021 so a solid return to form in 2022 with 32 goals
My only issue is his tackle count dropped again in 2022 to 22
His tackle count going back from 2022:- 22, 2, 22, 46, 46, 58, 71 (career high 2016)
We don't want the ball waltzing out of our forward 50 to easily.
The averages listed below don't make this stat look too bad.
A new club with a different mindset hopefully lifts his tackle count

Some stats comparing Gunston to McStay
The bolded for Gunston is his 1 game year in 2021

The 1% (average)
Gunston:- 1.8, 0.0, 1.1, 2.1, 2.6, 2.5,
McStay :- 1.8, 1.6, 1.5, 1.7, 1.5, 5.6

Marks (average)
Gunston :- 4.4, 1.0, 4.2, 5.5, 5.4, 6
McStay :- 5.3, 4.6, 3.2, 4.1, 4.3, 5

Tackles (average)
Gunston:- 1.4, 2.0, 1.4, 2.3, 2.0, 2.6
McStay :- 1.8, 3.0, 1.6, 2.0,2.2, 1.7

Goals (averages)
Gunston :- 2.0, 0.0, 1.9, 1.3, 2.2, 0.9
McStay :- 1.1, 1.5, 0.7, 0.9, 1.2, 0.1

Goal assists (average)
Gunston :- 0.8, 0.0, 0.6, 0.8, 0.8, 0.7
McStay :- 0.6, 0.6, 0.3, 0.4, 0.5, 0.2

Inside 50's (average)
Gunston :- 1.8, 0.0, 1.9, 3.0, 3.0, 2.5
McStay :- 2.7, 2.1, 1.4, 1.5, 1.1, 0.8

Career highlights
3× AFL premiership player: 2013–2015 All Australian team: 2018 Peter Crimmins Medal: 2020 3× Hawthorn leading goalkicker: 2015, 2016, 2020 22under22 team: 2014

 

[Quigley]

Gunston will probably be the smartest of our taller forwards as far as leading to good spots and giving himself opportunities. He won't provide the physical pack contests though which I am sure our smalls would appreciate.

 

[morsie]

Gunston will probably be the smartest of our taller forwards as far as leading to good spots and giving himself opportunities. He won't provide the physical pack contests though which I am sure our smalls would appreciate.

My concern is similar a lack of physicality in the forwardline

 

[acuguy]

Rayner and Modra have very similar height and weights. Rayner would've been a full forward pre 2005. Powerful, big leap, potentially strong hands and limited endurance.

 

[Mighty Lions]

Gunston will probably be the smartest of our taller forwards as far as leading to good spots and giving himself opportunities. He won't provide the physical pack contests though which I am sure our smalls would appreciate.

He will play the team role like they all will as set out by the new forwards coach.

 

[scoman]

My concern is similar a lack of physicality in the forwardline

Was thinking about this today. We will really have to look for leading options much more in 2023. Which is a good thing, it suits our personnel more and might help us avoid giving up so many intercepts to teams like Geelong, Melbourne and Richmond.

 

[Mighty Lions]

My concern is similar a lack of physicality in the forwardline

What is your concern? We have, if not the most potent forward line, one of the best in the competition. Think concerns should be directed to another area of the ground to be honest.

 

[JasRulz63]

What is your concern? We have, if not the most potent forward line, one of the best in the competition. Think concerns should be directed to another area of the ground to be honest.

I worry a bit about our forwards being competitive in the air when the ball is kicked long out to the wing. Can't afford to give away intercept marks to the opposition.

 

[Sanchez365]

Even with McStay, we struggled quite a lot when we were only breaking even in the midfield battle to win or half those wing / half forward contests.

I also don't think we really have a true crumbing small forward, adding McCarthy + Cameron who are both strong overhead and go for their marks (as well as being genuine targets in their own right) means adding gunston doesn't change that forward structure to me.

Weather it needs to be changed or not, I think it's potent enough so if we can improve our midfield contest (with the addition of Dunkley and maybe the return to form of Lyons) then scoring wont be our issue.

 

[rye]

daniher is pretty capable of being a physical presence upforward when he isnt worrying about his shoulders popping out. think people forget just how epic he was pre-injury this year