AFL Grand Final 2023 AFL Grand Final - Collingwood Magpies vs Brisbane Lions at the MCG @ 2.30pm AEST

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Joe got no votes in the NS. Wow. Was probably second best on.
Wow. Second most goals on the ground, while pinch hititng in the ruck and was the only tall that competed all day, complete shut out Moore and even crashed a few packs.
 
I agree there is a built in GF advantage to Victorian clubs. But I think Collingwood were clearly the better side and the game was close because of relative accuracy in front of goals. I think if played on neutral ground as for eg in 2021, Pies still win.

They were the better side because they were playing on their home ground. The result absolutely would have been reversed if it had been played at the Gabba.
 

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They were the better side because they were playing on their home ground. The result absolutely would have been reversed if it had been played at the Gabba.
Maybe/possibly but Pies finished on top so this isn't year to make the argument
 
Also Bobby kinda went missing in the last and lost a few key contests to Starcevich. Maybe most impact over the day but I weight impact in the last when the game is there to be won very highly.
You need to weigh up the whole game and Bobby is a very worthy winner.

Joey should have been 2nd though no questions
 

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While we've been busy imploding numerous times since 2000, Collingwood have have snagged two premierships and Carlton have gotten their s**t together. Both look infinitely more likely to get to 17+ ahead of us.
Part of me lately has been thinking this might be a good thing for us…might be the only thing that gets the rich old boys to stop living in the past and get behind us running things properly.
 
Collingwood won this flag through incredible culture, leadership and the expectation of success no matter what, set in stone over decades. All these things used to be in our DNA. Its embarrassing that Collingwood have rebuilt and played in 3 grand finals with 2 premierships for us to not win a single final since 2004 🤦🏻‍♂️ We are actually further away from winning a final than we were 12 months ago!
 
While we've been busy imploding numerous times since 2000, Collingwood have have snagged two premierships and Carlton have gotten their s**t together. Both look infinitely more likely to get to 17+ ahead of us.
we'll be 3 behind before we know it....this Collingwood team will be around for a long time
 
Collingwood won this flag through incredible culture, leadership and the expectation of success no matter what, set in stone over decades. All these things used to be in our DNA. Its embarrassing that Collingwood have rebuilt and played in 3 grand finals with 2 premierships for us to not win a single final since 2004 🤦🏻‍♂️ We are actually further away from winning a final than we were 12 months ago!
Yep, I was barracking for Lions but you just can't deny the Pies.

Their mindset has so much will and self belief. The 1%ers just keep them in the game. All 3 finals they could have easily lost but they just find a way. Has happened way too many times to be a fluke.
 
I hope this lights a fire under this club, not only watching a rival win the flag but tying us for most flags won.
dont hold your breath...we have no leaders, no spirit and no guts to even make a finals series let alone win a final. Our coaching staff are outcoached weekly, our board are more worried about turning a profit and our past players/coaches continually white ant the club with leaks and undermining anything the latest new coach tries to do. We are boys playing against men, amateurs playing professionals
 
Collingwood won this flag through incredible culture, leadership and the expectation of success no matter what, set in stone over decades. All these things used to be in our DNA. Its embarrassing that Collingwood have rebuilt and played in 3 grand finals with 2 premierships for us to not win a single final since 2004 🤦🏻‍♂️ We are actually further away from winning a final than we were 12 months ago!
Theyve been incredibly lucky. 3 elite father sons gifted to them and two durable superstar stalwarts have allowed them to spot fix their list with ease. Even the previous generation wouldnt have won anything without Cloke.

While they are professional outfit, its easier to maintain than drop down and build again especially when your getting those kinds of advantages.
 

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AFL Grand Final 2023 AFL Grand Final - Collingwood Magpies vs Brisbane Lions at the MCG @ 2.30pm AEST

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