List Mgmt. 2023 Draft Thread - Part I

[Saintscomemarchingin]

If we can somehow get Jones & McKenzie back fit & firing & add Mannagh, then we not only have speed but experience to have another crack at finals too.
Need to trial Caminiti & Hayes in Key back positions, in the pre-season too, to see what they could bring to a different back set-up, which we definitely need.

 

[ScrappyDo]

Picks between 35 and 40 are nearly useless. Plenty have this draft at not going far past 40. You'd be really taking on some players unlikely to make the grade at AFL level so tying up spots that will be like Allison where he's not likely to make it. At that point you'd maybe make one selection of a drifter and use the rest of the spots in the PSD and midseason drafts where you don't have to make long term commitments. Maybe just top with VFL and guys like Matho.

I reckon there is some talent there at our first 2 picks but gets pretty speculative after that.

Yes and no. Probably 30-45 but if you look at last year we got 3 good prospects in that range.
The point being that if we don't much like what's on offer in this years 1st round then there's time and opportunity to trade out and just scoop up some remaining talant. Not necessarily ideal, but possible.

 

[ScrappyDo]

Just hope we don't overthink it. 2 of leake, Wilson, Windsor, demattia, Edwards and a slider at 40

I believe we'd regret using our first on DeMattia or Tholstrup.
Wilson will be 100% gone, Windsor 80%.
Edwards or Murphy most likely IMHO.

 

[Saintscomemarchingin]

Along with Caminiti from last year, could SOS come up with another left field gem.
Sam Sofronidis 23 y.o KPD from the VAFA.
Four other clubs looking at him, seems a likely type for The Cats.

 

[Saintscomemarchingin]

Saints have mentioned that they would like another mid. a sml. to med. forward & a KPD & a ruck.
And I believe we need a sml. back-pocket to take care of the oppo. sml. forwards, why the interest in Nyko.
This is why I reckon we go;

1. C.Edwards
2. A.Moir
3. S.Mannagh
4. C.Nyko

Rookie:

1. S.Sofronidis 194cm KPD-Allison gets cut & paid?
2. L.Smith 202cm Ruck

 

[Saints_87]

Saints have mentioned that they would like another mid. a sml. to med. forward & a KPD & a ruck.
And I believe we need a sml. back-pocket to take care of the oppo. sml. forwards, why the interest in Nyko.
This is why I reckon we go;

1. C.Edwards
2. A.Moir
3. S.Mannagh
4. C.Nyko

Rookie:

1. S.Sofronidis 194cm KPD-Allison gets cut & paid?
2. L.Smith 202cm Ruck

Like all your picks but think moir will slide to almost our pick 40, there is better prospects than him for our 2nd pick

 

[Saintscomemarchingin]

Like all your picks but think moir will slide to almost our pick 40, there is better prospects than him for our 2nd pick

Had injury issue this year, very talented & good size for our forward line-187cm-85kg

 

[SaintJunior]

Along with Caminiti from last year, could SOS come up with another left field gem.
Sam Sofronidis 23 y.o KPD from the VAFA.
Four other clubs looking at him, seems a likely type for The Cats.

Must have improved out of sight.

Was on Sandringham’s list a few seasons back and couldn’t get a game .

 

[Saintscomemarchingin]

Nyko, two shoulder injuries near the end of the season, who does that remind you of, HaHa

 

[Saintscomemarchingin]

Must have improved out of sight.

Was on Sandringham’s list a few seasons back and couldn’t get a game .

Late bloomer? at 23 y.o
Battle & Wilkie fine
We need a FB asap, from anywhere?
I'd be happy to trial in pre-season, Hayes there.

 

[Saintscomemarchingin]

Late bloomer? at 23 y.o
Battle & Wilkie fine
We need a FB asap, from anywhere?
I'd be happy to trial in pre-season, Hayes there.

Ok, Hayes at FB, Luke Lloyd, 19 goals in any game, pretty good as rookie

 

[Saintscomemarchingin]

Moir at 26 v Billings at 3, promising?

 

[Saints_87]

Moir at 26 v Billings at 3, promising?

Still would rather take a punt at moir getting to pick 40 than use 21, think there are a few better and more of a need

 

[Saintscomemarchingin]

Still would rather take a punt at moir getting to pick 40 than use 21, think there are a few better and more of a need

26, which he is rated by some & me? As far as need, at his size he makes a point of difference to our forward line, especially if you move Owens & Phillipou to the midfield

 

[Significant]

Including Tholstrup all those 6, could be off the board before our 1st pick. Then what?

That is extremely doubtful

 

[Saints_87]

26

Just think there will be better options than moir whatever our 2nd pick is, we have more needs with mids, key back and small quick forward than a medium sized forward that moir is..

 

[Saintscomemarchingin]

After pick 10, the talent is questionable.
Moir presents pure talent & a year carrying injury, take the risk, coz someone else will
As I have said, pick 26 over Billings at 3, is worthy.
Phillipou & Moir on half forward flanks will be a sight to see, next year with the Sandy Zebs

 

[Saints_87]

After pick 10, the talent is questionable.
Moir presents pure talent & a year carrying injury, take the risk, coz someone else will
As I have said, pick 26 over Billings at 3, is worthy.
Phillipou & Moir on half forward flanks will be a sight to see, next year with the Sandy Zebs

Yeah its all pretty even after 10, but still think we need to adress our defiencies in mids, key back and small forward and most of the mock drafts have moir getting to around our 3rd pick.. who knows though, just hope we can get a couple of gems to add to our young stars

 

[bird_man]

Yeh sure if you look at it on face value and don't look at it further.

They're two very different players.

Nas had qualities that meant he could transition to AFL footy. For example his ball use and athleticism. He was an outside player.

Tholstrop doesn't have these qualities. His ball use isn't that great. He's not a silky outside type. He doesn't hit the score board so he doesn't have an offensive side to his game. He's not a bull ball winner.

He knows how to attack the man though hence his role at subi in the fwd line providing defensive pressure. Especially since they lost Robert to NM.

Subi run a lot of guys through that midfield. They're not scared about rotating people through the various lines. He doesn't look like he knows how to do that inside mid role. Reminds me a bit of Clark who didn't get drafted albeit not as bad.

I just don't see how he transitions to AFL and I especially don't see how it ends up in the midfield which is what we need.

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Again, suggesting he doesn't hit the scoreboard is harsh considering he was playing senior footy.

0.7 goals a game for a 17 year old kid playing senior WAFL footy is going OK. And let's not look past the fact he did average 2 goals a game playing as an under ager in WAFL colts.

As for needing a out and out midfielder, well getting a quality midfielder would be ideal but the fact is it is a very thin draft with very little midfield talent. I don't like the idea of reaching for a midfielder just because that's what we need.

 

[gringo2011]

Yes and no. Probably 30-45 but if you look at last year we got 3 good prospects in that range.
The point being that if we don't much like what's on offer in this years 1st round then there's time and opportunity to trade out and just scoop up some remaining talant. Not necessarily ideal, but possible.

True but much softer draft

 

[ScrappyDo]

True but much softer draft

I only believe that in context of about 5-20. By the time it hits the 3rd round they're all the same and there's plenty of players around 30 I'd be happy with.

 

[Sarcoidevo]

Mids Mids Mids Mids Mids Mids Mids Mids Mids Mids Mids Mids Mids Mids Mids Mids Mids Mids Mids Mids Mids Mids Mids Mids Mids Mids Mids Mids Mids Mids Mids Mids Mids Mids Mids Mids Mids Mids Mids Mids Mids ...... with pace, stamina and decent skills please ..... surely that's not asking for too much

 

[bird_man]

Mids Mids Mids Mids Mids Mids Mids Mids Mids Mids Mids Mids Mids Mids Mids Mids Mids Mids Mids Mids Mids Mids Mids Mids Mids Mids Mids Mids Mids Mids Mids Mids Mids Mids Mids Mids Mids Mids Mids Mids Mids ...... with pace, stamina and decent skills please ..... surely that's not asking for too much

Not a problem, those types grow on trees

 

[Ads734]

Moir needs to pplay at half back like Nas imo

 

[Significant]

Mids Mids Mids Mids Mids Mids Mids Mids Mids Mids Mids Mids Mids Mids Mids Mids Mids Mids Mids Mids Mids Mids Mids Mids Mids Mids Mids Mids Mids Mids Mids Mids Mids Mids Mids Mids Mids Mids Mids Mids Mids ...... with pace, stamina and decent skills please ..... surely that's not asking for too much

Fallacy. We need gun centre square mids. We ain't getting them from where our picks are.