List Mgmt. 2023 List Management thread

[Snuffaluphagus]

Mod notice after Mr Bob did a lot of annoying work in moving days of posts out of here. As we are heading into offseason, this thread is for 2023 list management only. Getting upset on previous trades can be taken to the vent thread. Lets keep this thread on track in the part of the year it's actually relevant

 

[King Tenz]

Just been reading a the Crows board who reckon we'd happily trade Cox for a 2nd round pick because we'd get nothing for him when he leaves the next year. I think people just always undervalue oppo players.

lmfao even if he was to leave next year we'd still get more than a 2nd rounder.

 

[Righteo]

Hawks board is some copium on what Bailey Smith will cost them if he asks a trade there

Probably, but I can't disagree that he is the most overrated "superstar" in the game

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

Probably, but I can't disagree that he is the most overrated "superstar" in the game

Oh I agree, ball butcher of the highest order but the Dogs are not taking a future 1st for him and Hawks know what they are going to have to pay if they are going after him.

 

[Alfonz]

Probably, but I can't disagree that he is the most overrated "superstar" in the game

There was a stat earlier in the year from On The Couch or First Crack which showed Smith was the worst player in the comp for effectiveness of forward 50 entries. It was a mind blowing statistic, something like 40-50 inside 50's from Smith and the Dogs didn't retain the ball a single time. That's like a team scoring zero points in an entire game. Not sure how much better he got in the second half of the year.

 

[Arkhitect]

Does anyone know when DGB is out of contract?

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

Does anyone know when DGB is out of contract?

Next year, this is also a great resource that is correct 99% of the time

AFL Out of Contract Players in 2024

List of AFL players coming out of contract at the end of 2024.

www.footywire.com

 

[Swiggy]

Take it with a pinch of salt

Channel 7 adel reporting tonight MG is about to sign a 4 year deal at port

 

[Cobbler]

Brockman to Eagles
Henry to Hawks

We get currency from either. Which at best would be Eagles 3rd rounder + some sort of upgrade/ pick shuffles.

Anyone hoping for anything inside pick 30 is dreaming.

I’d rather attempt a player trade, but there’s been no real noise of any links

 

[Johnny Dalmas]

There was a stat earlier in the year from On The Couch or First Crack which showed Smith was the worst player in the comp for effectiveness of forward 50 entries. It was a mind blowing statistic, something like 40-50 inside 50's from Smith and the Dogs didn't retain the ball a single time. That's like a team scoring zero points in an entire game. Not sure how much better he got in the second half of the year.

But he's really good looking ... And he's from Melbourne ... And he kicked that goal once very late in an elimination final that won the Dogs the game ... and all the girls said he has ice in his veins ... and ...

He is the most over-hyped player. I'm amazed he doesn't play for Essendon.

 

[Ge3ks]

Brockman to Eagles
Henry to Hawks

We get currency from either.

Either? Sorry, how do we get currency if Brockman goes to the Eagles?

 

[Freoforever86]

No to brockman. Plenty of smalls.
Yes to DBG
Yes to sharp if Henry leaves & if cheap

 

[Lach72]

Oh I agree, ball butcher of the highest order but the Dogs are not taking a future 1st for him and Hawks know what they are going to have to pay if they are going after him.

I think I’d rather Darcy Parish and I hate Parish farken

 

[pK75]

How much do people think Hawks will bounce next year, their F2 may hold more currency than anything they could give us this year. Added that they need points for the McCabe bid we could accommodate them by trading all our 3 later picks which are worth more than 29.
Henry + 40 + 52 + 58 > hawks F2 + 29

We then help GC bank future picks to avoid their later picks being wiped out by not having enough list spots prior to the draft
F1 + Hawks F2 > 4 + 28

Lose Henry and F1 but go to the draft with 4, 21, 28 and 29

Gold Cost go into draft night with 7 live picks, 2xF1 (ours and theirs) + 2xF2 (hawks and theirs) to sell to the highest bidder once the bids start to come.

 

[Taylor]

Why are people thinking Brockman to WC is a lock?

Schultz was still being chased by Victorian clubs the last I heard, even under contract.

 

[Lach72]

“47 and swap of future thirds for Henry.
28 to Brisbane for Lohmann”

I see moron season has started early

 

[apuchar]

Why are people thinking Brockman to WC is a lock?

Schultz was still being chased by Victorian clubs the last I heard, even under contract.

Just going with the rumours. If Freddie goes to the wing, Brockman would be a good replacement

 

[wakojako]

Why are people thinking Brockman to WC is a lock?

Schultz was still being chased by Victorian clubs the last I heard, even under contract.

Schultz is untradable unless we get a top 5 pick. We cannot afford to lose any more b22 players if we are serious about finals. Any draft pick/player we get for him won't come close to replicating his output.

 

[JammoMonty]

Hawks are after Bailey Smith. If they get him, surely Henry is off the menu?

Smith won’t be requesting a trade this week and sounds Geelong bound.

 

[JammoMonty]

Brockman to Eagles
Henry to Hawks

We get currency from either. Which at best would be Eagles 3rd rounder + some sort of upgrade/ pick shuffles.

Anyone hoping for anything inside pick 30 is dreaming.

I’d rather attempt a player trade, but there’s been no real noise of any links

Not keen on Brockman.

Dogs very keen on Henry. Dees seemed to have simmered down but I’d love to get that 2nd rounder back.

 

[FreoRicci]

It would be brave for a club to trade their 3rd highest clearance player. I get we have young guns that might, should, could be ready to go . It would still be brave.

Will Brodie with 25 clearances at just 5 games..
Pretty much tells the story there.

 

[FreoRicci]

We should consider putting Tabs on the Market. He will find it difficult to displace Amiss, Treacy or Jackson and we don’t need a fourth tall up forward. He would still have some trade value at the moment.

Darcy went down suddenly there’s no tall.
Need key forward depth.

 

[FreoRicci]

I agree, 3-4 min. Most likely 4. I have a feeling Hamling will go around again but will likely be via Rookie 1 year contract. Also Corbett a big chance to be delisted and selected as Rookie. They would effectively replace the promoted Treacy/Banfield.

JOM going nowhere.
Some chance Will Brodie is traded.
Very high likelihood Henry has accepted a Colin Young contract elsewhere.

Tabs would be offered nothing in a trade. Hurt his back again in the WAFL. Fyfe talked pre-game about how his back injury stuffed up the rest of his body and was mentally hard to get going again. Tabs will be retained to see if they can get him right over the pre-season. He could also be placed on LT injury list for SSP or mid season pick.

I’d expect that we look at a player to increase wing depth.

The likely net result of that:
4 ND selections
2 RL promotions
1 traded in player
2 Delisted players added to Rookie list
1 SSP/Mid Season draftee to rookie list (possibly 2 - Kuek and Tabs)

Will Brodie gets traded, watch the fans go ape.
Absolutely no way you rely on JOM, Fyfe as midfield depth. Not a chance.

4 ****ing years to JOM. Never will understand that

 

[Swiggy]

No to brockman. Plenty of smalls.
Yes to DBG
Yes to sharp if Henry leaves & if cheap

If freo can turn Henry into DGB & Sharp would be a win

 

[Joao]

Have any of you watched DGB play AFL? Why, would we want a fringe KPD from a worse team for our B22 winger?

Remember Sharp is worth approximately zero so adds no value to us.

We need something in the 20s for Henry to get any value from him.

 

[Cobbler]

Not keen on Brockman.

Dogs very keen on Henry. Dees seemed to have simmered down but I’d love to get that 2nd rounder back.

Yeah, in the scenario I mentioned Brockman goes to Eagles…