List Mgmt. 2023 List Management

[sweethoney]

Id play him as a dedicated small forward if we picked him up.

I remember when he played us there was a contest right in front of us, he was front and centre and kicked the goal from pack. I was talking to the bloke next to me and we both said we need someone that can do that

 

[agro]

I remember when he played us there was a contest right in front of us, he was front and centre and kicked the goal from pack. I was talking to the bloke next to me and we both said we need someone that can do that

Maybe we could draft some.

 

[sweethoney]

Maybe we could draft some.

We have. How are they going?

 

[Bamboo Harvester]

100%. we desperately need to find the next
Sam Collins or Callum Wilkie

 

[BlueTongue]

BMckay at full back wouldn’t be the worst.

Young is a panic merchant and that dropping the ball on Sunday night was embarrassing.


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We need to make a bonafide Key Defender (preferably intercept) a very High priority on our Trade list I think. Weltering is exceptional at intercept/1on1 but I'd like to see a genuine intercept like we had with Jones. Someone who is very good at knowing when to stay and defend and when to break off their OP.

 

[RattAttack]

If our list cull at year end is going to be as deep as some think (8-10), then we may have no choice but to bring in some FA’s / DFA’s as we won’t have enough draft picks to replenish the list or satisfy trades.

He may have some deficiencies, but the ‘injury prone’ tag labelled at Gresham isn’t quite true. Had the 2 Covid years wrecked with injuries, but other than that he has been relatively durable. And from memory they were not soft tissue injuries, all were quite significant.

All comes down to the $$….

 

[Stiffler's Dad]

For his endeavour maybe, but I think most would have been calling for him to be off the list for much of the past 5 seasons.

It was intended very much as tongue in cheek.

 

[true blue19]

Interested to see which backup ruckman people think we should be targeting if TDK leaves and what they would cost?

I would go after either Hayes or Sweet. Both mid 20's and ready to go. Edwards and Bryan are a bit younger but also worth a look. Most rucks cost a 3rd or 4th round pick.

 

[thebluenewdeal]

I would go after either Hayes or Sweet. Both mid 20's and ready to go. Edwards and Bryan are a bit younger but also worth a look. Most rucks cost a 3rd or 4th round pick.

What about the big lad up in gws, I forget his name..

 

[The Bighouse]

Maybe we could draft some.

Motl….

 

[The Bighouse]

What about the big lad up in gws, I forget his name..

Briggs. Flynn. Preuss. Madden.

 

[The Bighouse]

Id play him as a dedicated small forward if we picked him up.

Still looking for some pace around the ball, think it would be for a dual role.

 

[Benaly28]

What about the big lad up in gws, I forget his name..

Bryan could be someone we look at


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[Blue1980]

That's rubbish. One example that comes straight to mind is Eddie Betts. Was a rookie slection and was already a very good player before he left.

Off the top of my head guys who have exceeded their draft position expectation last 20 years:

Brad Fisher
Carrazzo
Simpson
Armfield
Casboult
Jamison
Thornton
Sam Rowe
Mitch Robinson
Ed Curnow
Cripps (pick 13 getting the return of a top 2-3 pick)
Betts
Garlett
Jacobs (before we let him go)
Jack Silvagni (100+ games for a pick in the 50s is a win)

It’s not an overly exciting list, but ridiculous to say we haven’t had anyone who’s exceeded draft pick expectations.

 

[Blue1980]

I would take Gresham as a player.

His injury history isn't terrible. Two affected seasons, one of which was the bubble, and otherwise has played 18+ every year.

He is a goal kicking forward with multiple 20 goal seasons, who is quick and can pinch hit in midfield. In other words, exactly the type of player we need.

The problem is cost. As a FA, we would probably need to offer enough to get St Kilda band 1 compensation. That means once again paying $650k or more to a guy who doesn't really warrant it. We have salary coming off the books, and if it means we can trade a player or two out, inprove our draft hand, and bring in Gresham as well that may be workable.

If we trade for him, St Kilda will want good compensation, which we can't provide, unless it is something like trading our pick 4 (at the moment) for their pick 11 and Gresham. Even that isn't likely to be enough.

Honestly, i don't see how it is feasible, and i suspect this is yet another case of his manager using Carlton's desperation to try and up his contract offer (either we make a stupid offer, a la Williams, or St Kilda bump up their money and he stays)

We might do our fancy long term contract thing, offer him 10 years on 450k.

 

[Psychochook]

BMckay at full back wouldn’t be the worst.

Young is a panic merchant and that dropping the ball on Sunday night was embarrassing.


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Reminiscent of Paul Bower

 

[jpfalvo]

Off the top of my head guys who have exceeded their draft position expectation last 20 years:

Brad Fisher
Carrazzo
Simpson
Armfield
Casboult
Jamison
Thornton
Sam Rowe
Mitch Robinson
Ed Curnow
Cripps (pick 13 getting the return of a top 2-3 pick)
Betts
Garlett
Jacobs (before we let him go)
Jack Silvagni (100+ games for a pick in the 50s is a win)

It’s not an overly exciting list, but ridiculous to say we haven’t had anyone who’s exceeded draft pick expectations.

So in the rebuild era (drafted 2016 onwards), we have 1 - JSOS.

Says it all in relation to development and recruitment under 2 distinct Phases post 2016 - SOS and Austin.

And 3 distinct coaching methods - bolton, teague, voss.



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[bradfisher14]

Off the top of my head guys who have exceeded their draft position expectation last 20 years:

Brad Fisher
Carrazzo
Simpson
Armfield
Casboult
Jamison
Thornton
Sam Rowe
Mitch Robinson
Ed Curnow
Cripps (pick 13 getting the return of a top 2-3 pick)
Betts
Garlett
Jacobs (before we let him go)
Jack Silvagni (100+ games for a pick in the 50s is a win)

It’s not an overly exciting list, but ridiculous to say we haven’t had anyone who’s exceeded draft pick expectations.

Thanks for the shoutout mate.

 

[Jeremias]

Off the top of my head guys who have exceeded their draft position expectation last 20 years:

Brad Fisher
Carrazzo
Simpson
Armfield
Casboult
Jamison
Thornton
Sam Rowe
Mitch Robinson
Ed Curnow
Cripps (pick 13 getting the return of a top 2-3 pick)
Betts
Garlett
Jacobs (before we let him go)
Jack Silvagni (100+ games for a pick in the 50s is a win)

It’s not an overly exciting list, but ridiculous to say we haven’t had anyone who’s exceeded draft pick expectations.

Well done but there's even more than that. 2015 draft provided more than just Silvagni, for example.

So in the rebuild era (drafted 2016 onwards), we have 1 - JSOS.

No, that's not correct.

Jack was drafted in 2015, debuted in 2016. And if we're talking exceeding expectations from draft position he's one of 3 I dare say fit the criteria from that draft alone.

 

[Jatz]

Did we swap second rounders with Collingwood last year during the trade period? Saw a Pies fan talking about our second rounder and it did trigger something in my memory but couldn't remember what the trade was.

 

[Jeremias]

Did we swap second rounders with Collingwood last year during the trade period? Saw a Pies fan talking about our second rounder and it did trigger something in my memory but couldn't remember what the trade was.

We live traded our future 2nd to Collingwood for Cowan.

 

[Jatz]

We live traded our future 2nd to Collingwood for Cowan.

Thanks J. So no current 2nd rounders in this years draft?

Apologies, I'm sure this is somewhere easy enough to find.

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

Thanks J. So no current 2nd rounders in this years draft?

Apologies, I'm sure this is somewhere easy enough to find.

We've got our 1st pick and then 2 4th rounders in this draft. Plenty of players and pieces that could be shifted to get picks back in though

 

[Jeremias]

Thanks J. So no current 2nd rounders in this years draft?

Apologies, I'm sure this is somewhere easy enough to find.

1 x 1st round and 2 x 4th round as things stand.

You can see every team’s draft picks easily in this thread, which is updated weekly (and as trades go down) by Lore -

Resource - 2023 AFL Draft Order

Every trade as it happens!

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[Elmer_Hauser]

We've got our 1st pick and then 2 4th rounders in this draft. Plenty of players and pieces that could be shifted to get picks back in though

TDK, Fisher and maybe a couple of other players (Jack Silvagni) will help us get back into the 2nd and 3rd rounds (hopefully)