Preview 2023 National Draft Preview Thread [currently: #2, #14 (PA), #19 (PP) #40, #52, #60]

[Flawed Genius]

So Curtin & McKercher with 2 and 3. Cobble together whatever for Sanders, probably eating up Ports pick in the process. I'd trade it out

 

[Roo202]

No because other clubs can't. Other clubs have to wait until their NGA kids are bid on after pick 40, they lose them beforehand. This gives us a guy who is nearing a top 5 talent (from a let's be honest broken academy where none of us either heard of him six months ago) for a mix of later picks. It's not bumper but it's way better than having no access to him (which we don't because he hasn't even been approved as being in our NGA yet).

I agree, it would be great if we can get him however it happens, but it sucks that two years ago (presuming he did get approved as being our NGA) we would have had the been able match any bid wherever it came and now they're already talking about rolling the rules on matching bids NGAs in the future.

So, if being allowed to match a bid on Sanders is the bulk of our assistance, it ends up being not a lot more than bypassing a rule that is only in place for a couple of years!

 

[Heaps of fun]

I'm higher on Duursma than most, but his brother almost makes me want to put a line through his name.

I think at this point, the Curtin and McKercher duo makes too much sense for us. I'd love Watson too, but if we are that desperate for him then there are some creative ways that we can pick him up.

The more I see of Curtin, the more I think that he is a Tomlinson-esque utility and not a traditional intercepting or lockdown KPD. People are talking about him as a need with the loss of McKay, but if his tank develops then I wouldn't be shocked to see him on a wing in a few years.

Jesus, this talk scares the shit out of me. How many of those blokes actually end up becoming elite footballers? Lukosius is doing well but Cox is at a major crossroads. Jarrod Brander lasted five years in the competition. Tomlinson has had a middling career at best. You'd feel a lot more confident if he was a gun intercept mark.

 

[ArdenStreet]

So Curtin & McKercher with 2 and 3. Cobble together whatever for Sanders, probably eating up Ports pick in the process. I'd trade it out

Are we able to use a F2 to match a bid? 37 + 52 + 59 + F2 would match a late top 10 bid and allow us to keep the Port Pick

 

[So You Think]

Any thoughts on what impact having access to Sanders (matching or not matching) combined with next years mid heavy top end would have on how we view McKercher at P2 or P3 (if we get it)?

Not really tracking next years draft, I don't have the time to do all the homework on any draft. I really only take cues from the watchers on BF and some general media comments.

Anyway, I'm in the 'take McKercher' camp at three if we get it for McKay. Prefer Reid at two if possible but would take Curtin if the coasters take Reid. This means taking a punt on Watson and I'm assuming we get access to Sanders.

My reasoning; I think our current mid group needs reshaping and we may not get the chance to rehash it in one swoop again.

I envisage Jye having to reinvent himself perhaps into doing a 'run-with' role like Jacobs did for us, he smashed Walsh a couple of years back.

I also have a hunch that both LDU and Wardlaw will need their minutes managed to keep them as injury free as possible. I think they're both impact players rather than grinders, that's where Sanders and McKercher come in.

As for Reid, I reckon that Clarko would see him as his 'Luke Hodge' playing that half back/centre mid enforcer role. If not Reid then Curtin takes the job hopefully he has the swagger. It doesn't seem like Curtin is a lock KP and that's fine by me, we'll improvise in those positions for a bit.

As for next year, we'll just have to take best available at say pick six or seven. I don't think we'll have the same draft opportunities next year, we'll be on the up!!!!

 

[FootySmartSimpson]

Are we able to use a F2 to match a bid? 37 + 52 + 59 + F2 would match a late top 10 bid and allow us to keep the Port Pick

It’s probably just easier sacrificing it at that stage considering where we are likely to be at the end of ‘24.

 

[shinboner magic]

How many mids is to many

 

[Shermanator]

How many mids is to many

You just keep recruiting ‘best available’ until you have 44 midfielders and are too scared to trade one out for a KPP player because they might get a kick with the opposition club you traded with.. apparently..

 

[hilly]

Are we able to use a F2 to match a bid? 37 + 52 + 59 + F2 would match a late top 10 bid and allow us to keep the Port Pick

F2 would need to be traded for a pick/s in this draft.

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[SnowRoo]

Are we able to use a F2 to match a bid? 37 + 52 + 59 + F2 would match a late top 10 bid and allow us to keep the Port Pick

Must use next available pick. Can't save Port pick unfortunately.

 

[year of the roo]

How many mids is to many

There are mids and there are mids. We don't have many good ones.

 

[JGreezy]

How many mids is to many

I don't think that drafting McKercher and Sanders would be there, yet.

Even on a day where we are at 100% we spread our mids like this...

HB: Scott - ??? - Sheezel
C: McKercher - LDU - Goater
HF: Simpkin - ??? - Thomas
Foll: ??? - Wardlaw - Phillips
Int: Sanders, Powell

I think that you want midfield type skill sets all over the ground.

We're not good yet. Not every young player will develop. Some will also leave. 2-3 might have injuries at any time.

If Thomas leaves next year, Powell stays at his current level and LDU/Wardlaw continue to miss a lot of time then we need all of these guys.

 

[DocSholl]

Feel like people are underselling what a good result being able to match a bid on Sanders anywhere would be. That's not the AFL screwing us at all

 

[Sillygit]

Feel like people are underselling what a good result being able to match a bid on Sanders anywhere would be. That's not the AFL screwing us at all

i don't see it as screwing us, but i can understand the annoyance at it still being miles behind GC precedent, two pre-listed guns, multiple first round picks, etc.

so it pretty much just confirms that it's not a fair playing field. one of their financial endeavours is given more, certainly feels if one of their darlings was in our position (collingwood, geelong, etc) was in our position they would get the GC treatment as well.

 

[DocSholl]

I don't think any reasonable person thinks the Gold Coast got fair or sustainable concessions though, plus they are an expansion club in a non-AFL area that just hasnt worked out. Hoping to also get that level of assistance is setting yourself up.for heartbreak.

 

[Sillygit]

I don't think any reasonable person thinks the Gold Coast got fair or sustainable concessions though, plus they are an expansion club in a non-AFL area that just hasnt worked out. Hoping to also get that level of assistance is setting yourself up.for heartbreak.

Concessions themsleves are inherently unfair from the majority of the clubs not recieving them perspectives. There isn't anything that can change that, it's a gifted advantage. The only thing that pushes it towards fair is equal application of them, so that everyone knows whats coming. Having them sit in flux, amongst all the other imbalance in the draft system, is completey on the AFL and their desire to have no accountability to past decisions at all.

Even if their supposed desire is to eliminate any future forms of priority picks, at some point they do have to actually say it. "This is it, last one". Instead they simply make ever incressingly shit "case by case" decisions hoping clubs will just stop asking so that they never actually have to do something like make a final decision.

 

[Sphynx]

I think we will get a suite of picks similar to last year + Sanders access.

 

[DesertRoo]

So our assistance is we get to bid on a NGA prospect in the same way all clubs can?

Superb.

Yeah our assistance is equivalent of what the bulldogs received with JUH after playing off in the gf.

 

[shinboner magic]

I think we will get a suite of picks similar to last year + Sanders access.

Hopefully sanders is for free as would love to use that poort pick on a KPP

 

[My Left Foote]

 

[Sphynx]

Hopefully sanders is for free as would love to use that poort pick on a KPP

Could potentially package up the Port pick and any PP’s to get above the Sanders bid.

 

[King Corey]

If we're going to trade out the port pick, I'd like to do something similar to 2018 where we trade for a couple of old guys with about 20 career games remaining between them.

 

[Kanga1996]

Hopefully sanders is for free as would love to use that poort pick on a KPP

We will be lucky if they allow us to bid on Sanders.


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[Hojuman]

If we're going to trade out the port pick, I'd like to do something similar to 2018 where we trade for a couple of old guys with about 20 career games remaining between them.

Got a couple of mates might be able to help.

 

[DesertRoo]

If we're going to trade out the port pick, I'd like to do something similar to 2018 where we trade for a couple of old guys with about 20 career games remaining between them.

Who’s the current player under a career ending injury, high risk, high reward type you’re currently thinking of?

One that comes to mind, Angus?