Review 2023 National Draft Review Thread II [McKercher, Z.Duursma, Goad, W.Dawson, Hardeman, Maley]

[hilly]

I genuinely am not opposed to a ruckman at that pick and I like Edwards, I also like Goad there. In fact I hope we take a first round ruck this year.

There’s whispers about on Edwards, saw some stuff on the Eagles board among others and have noticed him seemingly drifting on recent rankings and am putting two and two together.

See my earlier post on every WA prospect having some form of issue.

 

[the big lebowski]

Archer Reid currently weighs more than his brother Zach, and around 10kgs more than at their respective draft weights.

And he is still quite mobile.

Should draft him and Dawson at 17,18.

Final ideal draft for me

Mckercher at 2
Trade 3 for 6 and 11
Take Curtin at 6
Best available at 11
(speed and skill out of defence?)
Best available 15
(speed and pressure forward?)
Archer Reid at 17
Wil Dawson at 18

 

[perplexed]

Twomey's mock draft is a shocker for us. Outside run is easy and cheap to bring in. We just got Fisher and Stephens, if we add McKercher too, that is heaps for now. We have to go tall with at least three of our picks.

 

[DuckYeah]

* me the afl website is rolled pal-turd dogshit. For me, the only site on the entire internet that struggles to load, has repeated issues and just generally farkin sarks to interact with.

Chief must run that site too

 

[chubbspeterson]

trade pick 15 and 18 for 8

Pick 2: curtin
Pick 3: watto
Pick 8: caddy
Pick 17: Mitch Edwards
Pick 57: Philactides

Pls and thanks Thursfield

Disappointing. Thought you'd find a way to burn a first rounder on Philactides.

 

[solidgoldhell]

It’s funny that only now that the Eagles have come out and said they’re willing to trade their F1 to nab Curtin a bunch of North supporters have jumped on that idea too when it was previously regarded as the end of the world. I’m all in on this draft personally and I’d be going hell for leather.

This draft has a very very strong top 8-10 players. Somewhat unusually they also come in all different shapes, sizes and roles. Probably less bullish on Sanders and Caddy but the rest of the top 10 look awesome. I love O’Sullivan but just can’t see us landing him without overpaying.

I’d definitely be throwing our F1 in the mix to cash in and ensure we get an absolutely elite prospect on each line. If necessary, throw pick 18 in to sweeten the deal and take Curtin before WC do. Anyone seen these as “best pick 16 or 17 of the last 10 years” lists that have been floating around? Mainly players that have zero influence on their clubs. I believe Atley was top 5 or 6 for example.

Leave with all three of Mckercher, Duursma and Curtin. The extra year of development into Curtin will make up for giving away our F1 in a midfield heavy draft. Complete the rebuild now and go for trades once more holes appear. I also believe we will be getting high picks in next year for at least one of TT or Zurhaar. If we don’t drastically improve TT is absolutely out. Horses mouth shit.

I’d also have one last crack at pick 1. Try Pick 2, F1 and (only if necessary) 18 for Harley. I think he is too special to not throw our F1 at. We also need to start backing ourselves to climb. I feel like supporters who doubt Reid’s worth are plain stubborn.

If that doesn’t eventuate (which it probably won’t)…

Mckercher, Duursma, Curtin, Collard, Murphy/A. Reid, Dawson.

If the Sydney trade happens take Leake & Collard.

LFG!

 

[shinboner magic]

Archer Reid currently weighs more than his brother Zach, and around 10kgs more than at their respective draft weights.

And he is still quite mobile.

Should draft him and Dawson at 17,18.

Final ideal draft for me

Mckercher at 2
Trade 3 for 6 and 11
Take Curtin at 6
Best available at 11
(speed and skill out of defence?)
Best available 15
(speed and pressure forward?)
Archer Reid at 17
Wil Dawson at 18

Leake at 11
Collard at 15

I’m doubt we’ll trade back With pick 3

 

[The Nostradamus]

Disappointing. Thought you'd find a way to burn a first rounder on Philactides.

Who would you take chubbs at each pick?

Keen to see your draft/talent nous or lack thereof

I’ve had my choices set for awhile for all picks while most flip flop in theirs

 

[roos_fanatic08]

So you’d lean towards Edwards then, keeping in mind we’d have a couple of years to build up his endurance?

Edwards for mine, mainly because of his ruck craft and competitiveness.

Goad is a very close 2nd though, he is raw but his athletic potential is through the roof. Think Luke Jackson in a taller and more solid frame

 

[LB2Snake]

It’s doing my head in.

I’m a terrible speller and usually guesstimate on words and leave it to auto correct.

But FFS it’s CURTIN you knobs!!!!!!

In fairness, I’m still always unsure if it’s Jy or Jye when I type about our captain. Even Simpkin or Simkin makes me have to stop and think.

 

[Sphynx]

Twomey's mock draft is a shocker for us. Outside run is easy and cheap to bring in. We just got Fisher and Stephens, if we add McKercher too, that is heaps for now. We have to go tall with at least three of our picks.

Come on, it’s not a shocker.

I’ll be absolutely thrilled if we walk out with Edwards Monday night, as much as I will McKercher/Duursma.

I like DeMattia more than a few on here, his speed is electric and that goes a long way at the next level.

I just don’t think we need DeMattia AND Hardeman.

Replace one of them with a key back or forward and it’s a fantastic draft.

 

[gustaaf]

It’s funny that only now that the Eagles have come out and said they’re willing to trade their F1 to nab Curtin a bunch of North supporters have jumped on that idea too when it was previously regarded as the end of the world. I’m all in on this draft personally and I’d be going hell for leather.

This draft has a very very strong top 8-10 players. Somewhat unusually they also come in all different shapes, sizes and roles. Probably less bullish on Sanders and Caddy but the rest of the top 10 look awesome. I love O’Sullivan but just can’t see us landing him without overpaying.

I’d definitely be throwing our F1 in the mix to cash in and ensure we get an absolutely elite prospect on each line. If necessary, throw pick 18 in to sweeten the deal and take Curtin before WC do. Anyone seen these as “best pick 16 or 17 of the last 10 years” lists that have been floating around? Mainly players that have zero influence on their clubs. I believe Atley was top 5 or 6 for example.

Leave with all three of Mckercher, Duursma and Curtin. The extra year of development into Curtin will make up for giving away our F1 in a midfield heavy draft. Complete the rebuild now and go for trades once more holes appear. I also believe we will be getting high picks in next year for at least one of TT or Zurhaar. If we don’t drastically improve TT is absolutely out. Horses mouth s**t.

I’d also have one last crack at pick 1. Try Pick 2, F1 and (only if necessary) 18 for Harley. I think he is too special to not throw our F1 at. We also need to start backing ourselves to climb. I feel like supporters who doubt Reid’s worth are plain stubborn.

If that doesn’t eventuate (which it probably won’t)…

Mckercher, Duursma, Curtin, Collard, Murphy/A. Reid, Dawson.

If the Sydney trade happens take Leake & Collard.

LFG!

Just because one club is prepared to use its F1 in this draft doesn't mean it is right for us to do so as well. Our circumstances are very different in that West Coke only has #1 and not much more and we have FIVE first rounders. With all our draft capital there is no need for us to burn our F1 by overpaying for another player in the 2023 draft.

I also suspect that WC rate Curtin higher than North does, which is why they are prepared to stick their neck out. There is also the return home factor that I think is more of a threat with Curtin than it for instance is with Reid, which I believe lessens the value of drafting him. I also hate the idea of diminishing our draft hand by overpaying for Reid who I think is overhyped. That doesn't mean that I think he won't be a good player, but I doubt he'll be an outstanding one.

Contrary to your belief, I don't think our rebuild can be completed in the 2023 draft and we will still need to have a strong position in next year's draft to continue the rebuild. Not all of our picks in the teens this year will succeed, so there will be ongoing list needs that need to be addressed in future drafts. Perhaps we will be able to invest in targeted free agency acquisitions from 2025 onwards to help us become a contender on the back of all the high end talent we've accumulated over the last few years.

The two potential trades I can see value in is using two of the late teens picks to get another pick in the top 10 if it gets us O'Sullivan, or to potentially trade away one of our late teens picks for someone's F1 + a pick in the late 20s or early to mid 30s.

 

[Val Keating]

I have to laugh Westt coast giving up their future first to Melbourne for pick whatever yet they want the world for this years first

It is so funny. Psychologist’s would have a field day.

 

[The Y Factor]

Apologies if I've missed the program - several mock drafts show us taking Riley Hardemann. If we're using our latter picks to plug gaping holes in our list, why would we select a medium defender?

I don’t believe we are doing that.

According to the recruiter we are selecting best available and by doing so will address list needs.

 

[Psicosis]

Apologies if I've missed the program - several mock drafts show us taking Riley Hardemann. If we're using our latter picks to plug gaping holes in our list, why would we select a medium defender?

Well medium defenders with footskills and pace are a gaping hole IMO, hence why Sheezel has had to play there.

I do think people need not freak out if we don’t just go needs with 15, 17 & 18. Sure one or two of those picks should be set aside for a small forward/key defender, but if someone we rate highly slides through that isn’t either of those I expect we will take them.

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

So, we currently hold 2 of the top 3 picks and you suggest we walk away from the draft with only one of McKercher, Duursma and Curtin?

Not much of a good night, IMO.

My idea was to trade 2 and 3 and the teens for every pick in the 30s, 40s and 50s.


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[Scallop Industry Thug]

It’s doing my head in.

I’m a terrible speller and usually guesstimate on words and leave it to auto correct.

But FFS it’s CURTIN you knobs!!!!!!

70% of us know but CBF correcting the auto correct.




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[perplexed]

Come on, it’s not a shocker.

I’ll be absolutely thrilled if we walk out with Edwards Monday night, as much as I will McKercher/Duursma.

I like DeMattia more than a few on here, his speed is electric and that goes a long way at the next level.

I just don’t think we need DeMattia AND Hardeman.

Replace one of them with a key back or forward and it’s a fantastic draft.

Yes, good draft if we go for two talls rather than DeMattia and Hardeman. As it is, it looks like most of our drafts in that every one of those decisions can be justified individually, and all the players look great, but as a whole the result doesn't address the major weaknesses with our list.

 

[Sphynx]

Yes, good draft if we go for two talls rather than DeMattia and Hardeman. As it is, it looks like most of our drafts in that every one of those decisions can be justified individually, and all the players look great, but as a whole the result doesn't address the major weaknesses with our list.

We can definitely afford a running back.

We are playing our dynamic game breaking medium forward off of half back at the moment and then there’s Luke McDonald and Bergman/Goater.

Fisher has played around 10 games of AFL football at half back.

Thinking we are set there long term is a mistake.

 

[perplexed]

We can definitely afford a running back.

We are playing our dynamic game breaking medium forward off of half back at the moment and then there’s Luke McDonald and Bergman/Goater.

Fisher has played around 10 games of AFL football at half back.

Thinking we are set there long term is a mistake.

We definitely need more run and better distribution out of the backline. Love to pick up Hardeman. But if we do this we should be going Curtin at the start for balance, who has the other advantage that he can start as a distributor.

 

[desie]

Our future 2nd round pick would be feeling nervous, when was the last time Brady didn't flog it off?

That Wristo bloke might know.

 

[Wild Bill]

Cal is really good with getting his early picks right. The only way McKercher and Duursma are not on our list tomorrow is if we trade 1 of the picks.

The later 1st rounders is a lot more hit and miss.

 

[kool kangas]

Hawks, Demons and Giants have bigger priorities than a defender. They won’t be spending their top pick on one when better options are available for their mix.

Doggies will take sanders.

It’s why Curtin will either go at 3 to us or slide to Geelong at 10.

Curtin will not get to the Cats pick....Dees, GWS and even Bummers will grab him first...

 

[GS WARRIORS]

Both Cal and McGowan have the top20 in the exact order which includes the 5 bids. McGowan's came out first.

 

[RossHenshaw]

Curtin will not get to the Cats pick....Dees, GWS and even Bummers will grab him first...

Curtain will be taken by the hawks if he slips thru us …
He has visited the hawks on 3 occasions now with his manager.