Training 2023 Pre-season thread

[Warwick]

The whole ground switch and back again is risky but when it comes off it looks good.

 

[p4p1]

McStay is a significantly better marker of the ball than Hipwood.

The difference is, Hipwood is ~7cm taller with a much longer reach.

Do you have any faith in Hipwood leading up to ball and taking a mark out in front?


The other point, which I’ve been saying for years, is that our game plan has been really poor in regards to our tall forwards creating space for each other, making false leads and opening space behind them.

It’s not unusual to see two, or all three of our talls, flying for the same ball, sometimes with Rayner coming over the back or from the opposite side.

Geelong and Richmond are far better at using their tall forwards to create space for each other, and still allow their smalls to pounce on loose balls.

Nothing made this clearer than watching the Eagles who were woreful last year still create big open spaces for their talls to lead into alone.

 

[Squizz89]

How has Cam actually looked in defence?

 

[Toffee Lion]

Lions: 11.6.72
Swans: 6.4.40

Rayner as the goal keeper stops a certain goal on the line after some pressure from the Swans in their F50.

 

[martinson]

Half time entertainment: Mighty Lions, it was me who flew off the handle re your comments about Michael whiting. I did so because your ‘some of his past’ comment looked not like an opinion on his journalism but an ambiguous, non-specific attack on him as a person on an anonymous forum where few, if any, participants would know him personally. I saw it and thought ‘what, did he poison a kindergarten picnic? Murder half a dozen ex-wives? Invaded the Sudetenland?’
Subsequent comments indicate you were talking about his football writing, in which case I was overreacting so I apologise. But maybe be a bit more careful with language. A harmless opinion can look like a cowardly smear which I now accept wasn’t the case.

Just for the record that's not how he explained why he didn't like him.

 

[Kwickhatch]

Rayner saves a certain goal on the line

 

[scott_the_man]

I think Kiddy will get tagged a bit this year

No doubt. He had way too much room in the first half and caused the Swans plenty of issues.

 

[Tom14]

How has Cam actually looked in defence?

Gotta be honest, pretty bloody good. Still not a fan of it long term.

As I type just out-muscled heeney and took a good contested mark.

 

[Kwickhatch]

Been in the Sydney fwd 50 for a while now. A lot of pressure coming from brissy and Rayner sitting back and catching anything going down towards goal

 

[scott_the_man]

Rayner with 2 intercept marks in 2 minutes. Looks a natural back there.

 

[Toffee Lion]

Lions: 11.6.72
Swans: 6.4.40

3QT. Lions pile on 5 unanswered and keep the Swans goal-less. Lions upped the pressure and the Swans just couldn't go with us.

 

[Thomasno]

No doubt. He had way too much room in the first half and caused the Swans plenty of issues.

Seems to have split then open a bit this quarter essentially wasting a midfielder on tagging a defender - who still had a decent run at it

 

[Tom14]

Rayner with 2 intercept marks in 2 minutes. Looks a natural back there.

I really like him being the deepest defender to sweep things up. Does it continue when we get our tall defenders back? Its an interesting one.

 

[scott_the_man]

Bloody good quarter. We were all over them defensively and super silky offensively. We will be a hard side to stop if we keep that up for 4 quarters.

 

[Kwickhatch]

Swans unable to score that quarter. Very good defensively from the lions and easily moving the ball out of defence for the most part.

 

[Ad Astra]

Just for the record that's not how he explained why he didn't like him.

Just for the record that's not how he explained why he didn't like him.

In truth I didn’t read all the comments. More interested in the footy from this point.

 

[martinson]

Rayner with 2 intercept marks in 2 minutes. Looks a natural back there.

Gotta be honest, pretty bloody good. Still not a fan of it long term.

As I type just out-muscled heeney and took a good contested mark.

If we can afford the luxury of having him there it ups the potency of our defence considerably.

 

[Kwickhatch]

Rayner actually looking really solid down back. Finding the ball and making good decisions

 

[Warwick]

I must say it’s impressive to film a game with a vintage camcorder.

 

[Sanchez365]

Rayner has looked solid across the half back line. Getting into great positions and taking a lot of marks.

Payne has been good with his reading of the play but his disposal has been noticably poor.

 

[Tom14]

Rayner actually looking really solid down back. Finding the ball and making good decisions

I was ready to call it a failed experiment 10 minutes in when he fumbled the ball and flew for one he really shouldn't have, but have to admit it looks intriguing.

I still want him forward of centre though - at least we always have the option of throwing him on ball or into F50 if we need a spark.

 

[Thomasno]

I must say it’s impressive to film a game with a vintage camcorder.

Should send Berry up to crank the handle to run the film through, would be good rehab for his shoulder

 

[Mr Ripper]

Came off but don't love that option from Hipwood. 50m kick cross goal to a dangerous spot if there is a turnover isn't the percentage play.

It’s Bazball footy and I heartily endorse it.

 

[martinson]

Charlie was 20m out. I hate that.

 

[Toffee Lion]

Lions: 11.6.72
Swans: 7.4.46

Not an ideal start, as Cameron passed up a decent shot, turnover and Swans get one down the other end.