Trades 2023 Round 11 trades

[jdwood]

I'm still thinking that they have made the game too hard for casual players to play
It's hard to get new players and the number of existing players are going down year by year - people are giving up on the game!
i.e. unless players are committed, they are disadvantaged

Too hard?!?!?

There are 36 trades now - it is way too easy.

(Acknowledging that this year has been difficult with injuries/rookies.)

 

[timtimtim]

I'm torn on Oliver also.

Had my eye on him last week and finally bit the bullet last week (involved sacrificing Ashcroft, so a high price).

But I'm top 300 and focused solely on climbing ranks for overall rank. If I crash and burn and lose leagues, I am not too fussed.

So that lends itself to a trade but I would want to be damn sure that I put that cash to work as it will be impossible to bring him back unless the Bont goes down.

Steele, Neale? (with money to upgrade Ryan) There are question marks over all other mids. Plus the prospect that he does the miraculous recovery and is back in a week or two (Stewart, Docherty, Zorko style).

Bloody tough one.

Nice rank mate

Re: Oliver - the only real way to make a call on it is to make your decisions based on the next 4-5 weeks. IMO too many considerations to factor in and the best way is to map out your options and assess the impact based on your $-in-bank, trades left, rookies on field, bye structure etc.

Was doing my head in until I did this exercise and now have a bit more clarity (watch it all go to sh*t and see you in vents and regrets)

 

[THECHIEFTON]

The way Oliver came out and trained tells me its not that bad. Bet if it was a final he'd play, club wants to be conservative so I'll bet right now he misses 2 week max.

 

[Duckworthy]

Quiet around here these days, lots of kents lost interest I guess. Or posting other places.

Mid-week can be quiet. It should ramp back up for team selections and the weekend games

 

[JyeDye]

I'm holding Oliver and instead going a week early on Wardlaw. Think he can average 75-80 to cover him for a few weeks.

 

[JyeDye]

Yeah, what happened to these guys anyway?

SC seems to ebb and flow like an ammos footy team:

• everyone is keen as mustard in March
• injuries, sh!te weather and trips to Europe (read: injuries, ded rooks and confusing byes) shatter morale and participation numbers in the dark winter months
• people come good around finals time, desperate for September glory, and engagement increases. Hopefully those who saw out the dark months are rewarded with said glory!

For me, a new job and some family stuff has taken up my time of late, but rest assured that I am always lurking……

Re trades, I think I am holding this week because:
A - I’m not impressed with any bubble boys. Will wait for I Fought the Wardlaw as a sole downgrade next week
B - I don’t have any rooks who must go this week
C - I am preparing to go bananas the bye rounds - have 17 trades left + $350k in the bank.
D - I don’t have Clarry (has killed me to date!), so hopefully I can hold/make ground against the mob without trading.


HOWEVER, I am tempted by Dale with JJ done. $447k, BE of 28 and took a season high 7 kick outs last week………


PS, I had a premonition that Rowston got back in this week…

The last three were banned for Sweet FA stuff.

 

[Maybe Tomorrow]

The last three were banned for Sweet FA stuff.

That SFA board seems a place where good posters go to lose their minds

 

[JyeDye]

That SFA board seems a place where good posters go to lose their minds

Probably just what having me as a teammate does to them

 

[JuddgementDay]

Too hard?!?!?

There are 36 trades now - it is way too easy.

(Acknowledging that this year has been difficult with injuries/rookies.)

LOL - not via number of trades, but all the late out, rolling trades etc - it means you have to be aware of all things AFL otherwise you will be disadvantaged

 

[Sketi]

Guys, I really wanted to hold Clarry but consider my situation for a second.

I'm playing for league and in my main (work) cashie I have two top 4 clashes the next 2 weeks. Bad timing, basically 8 point games.

In an OK spot with 17 trades left. Thinking I bring in Stewart for Piggy to get me through the next little run. Then start putting aside some coin to roughie Oliver back in after he returns (not a major rush with his 138 break even).

Thinking Ashcroft/Atkins to Clarry or even a Ziebell sideways as some ideas.

On the other hand it's a marathon and I could probably afford to lose a game or two.

Any thoughts appreciated cos this has been killing me. Steele instead of Stewart could also help me save some coin?

After Stewart trade

 

[legauch3]

LOL - not via number of trades, but all the late out, rolling trades etc - it means you have to be aware of all things AFL otherwise you will be disadvantaged

I enjoy supercoach because it makes you aware of all things afl! All you really have to do if you're just casually playing is check teams on GameDay and don't set tight loopholes that would casually be fked up.

And if you think it's too hard now, I wonder what they will do when there's 19 teams and possibly a bye every week... More starting salary and an extra bench on each line may be a possibility!

 

[JyeDye]

To be fair I've probably been a lot more casual this season (travelling) and it's been fine. I just don't loop rookies and back a guy in. The only thing I loop or change after Thursday night is looping in a VC score. I did get annoyed with LDU copping a late out, but that happens.

 

[kyri]

I've had Ridley since the start of the season and I have no idea why everyone is trading him in.

He's the one player I pray gets an 80 each game.

Just wait a couple of weeks to see if he's back to that old role.

To me it seems Ridleys floor is 80, so most weeks your prayers have been answered.

Sort of like my current D6, Liam Stocker, whom I want to sideways to Ridley. His floor is around 60 though, which is all I could ever ask from a 200k rookie.

However, Ridley @ 400k is a different story to the premo you started with @ 500k. At this price, I'm not expecting tons every game, however an 85 minimum will do just fine.

If you take out his R8 injury score, hes averaging over 90, and at $415k, that is pretty hard to pass up.

 

[Better Loosen Up]

I'm holding Oliver and instead going a week early on Wardlaw. Think he can average 75-80 to cover him for a few weeks.

Wardlaw just signed the dreaded contract extension...

But only 60 something %TOG last week. Hopefully he can get that up into the 70's in the coming week's which would help his scoring you would think.

 

[kyri]

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Actually enjoying the simplicity of fantasy this year tbh. Just do your 2 trades a week and not think about it to much.

Two trades a week keeps the tradeaholic at bay.

Hopefully SC pick up this approach too.

 

[kyri]

Thinking Ashcroft/Atkins to Clarry or even a Ziebell sideways as some ideas.

Ziebell sideways to Oliver in R15 is probably a pretty smart move.

 

[kyri]

Tend to agree here Steve.

Thinking hold is the boring, but smart play. It's the price we pay for trading so aggressively early.

I agree with the fact that it is a long season. Trading out Oliver, just look at how many more games he WILL play. 14 rounds still to come. We're not even half way yet.

 

[No eye deer]

Obviously depends on your team. Most seem to be ok for defenders so I’d say Steele but that’s based on my needs.

Yeah, I have more rookies on the field in the mids, but they’re all scoring well.
If I get Sicily or Sinclair, I would swing Day To the mids for now and still loop Bergman and Weddle at D6.
Which would mean benching a mid rookie anyway.

So to simplify it, I would be playing the same rookies on field with either trade option.

 

[Daniel_Rich]

Thoughts on a left field move of trading Stocker (391k) and Johnson (194k) to Atkins (290k) and Humphrey (285k) on the basis that it gives better bye coverage allowing me to hold Oliver? Feels weird to ride Stocker this long just to split him into two expensive rookies rather than sideways to Ridley or go 1U/1D to Sicily or whoever. Is there merit here or am I just clutching at straws (I only just brought in Oliver last week so trading him out feels bad, but maybe it's just the right thing to do)?

Alternatives would be Oliver to Steele and pocket some cash, or Oliver + Stocker to Steele and Docherty (can't afford Sicily here, unfortunately).

18 premos, 14 trades, and some decent cash gen (have Williams, Knevitt, Weddle, Mitchell, and Simpson all ticking along at the moment).

 

[gutsroy]

Yes FTTV have a discord, and DRSC have their "Slack" forum. No doubt plenty have migrated to those places, along with just not posting on social media for various reasons. These places ebb and flow.

it always gets quiet on this board as kents run out of trades, which is happening earlier this year. There is just not much to talk about if you aren't trading.

And some of the more prolific posters have been banned in the last year or so - AB, imissfrosty, dazjack and that prick kananooks

Leaves Scoops to do a lot of the heavy lifting

The bold bit reminds me of living in our last place. Was in a cul-de-sac and the long time residents ran a bbq for the residents of the street (about 30 houses) each summer. We were there about 6 years and all they seemed to do every year was sit around and talk about how good the bbq's of the past were. I'm sure it's a bit the same here, we all remember the good times, forgetting it was probably dead towards the end of every season.

Clearly I'm in a pensive mood this fine morning. So back to the SC, what the hell to do with Oliver?

On the purely Oliver front, mate, for what it's worth:
Assume it is a fairly standard hammy, say around 21 days for the sake of argument.
That puts him coming back in Rd 13.
He's missing Rd 14 anyway in the bye.
Plays Rd 15
Then the net impact is Rds 11, 12 having to play a rookie.
Seems better to me than chewing up ,2 trades.
And even if he misses Rd 13, it honestly makes almost no difference, because everyone is that flush with premos that week that at most it's a differential of Premo X - Premo Y by shuffling one up or one down in the on-field 18.
The only time I'd trade Oliver as an outsider looking in would be if I was (a) flush with trades - like 18+ and (b) liked what I could do in terms of bye rebalancing and splitting the cash across two premos.underpriced in comparison.
Just my two cents as we don't tend to think about things as deeply when we're not directly impacted and I might be glossing over something....

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Tend to agree here Steve.

Thinking hold is the boring, but smart play. It's the price we pay for trading so aggressively early.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

On the purely Oliver front, mate, for what it's worth:
Assume it is a fairly standard hammy, say around 21 days for the sake of argument.
That puts him coming back in Rd 13.
He's missing Rd 14 anyway in the bye.
Plays Rd 15
Then the net impact is Rds 11, 12 having to play a rookie.
Seems better to me than chewing up ,2 trades.
And even if he misses Rd 13, it honestly makes almost no difference, because everyone is that flush with premos that week that at most it's a differential of Premo X - Premo Y by shuffling one up or one down in the on-field 18.
The only time I'd trade Oliver as an outsider looking in would be if I was (a) flush with trades - like 18+ and (b) liked what I could do in terms of bye rebalancing and splitting the cash across two premos.underpriced in comparison.
Just my two cents as we don't tend to think about things as deeply when we're not directly impacted and I might be glossing over something....

Given, Oliver could play the game out ....and I still have no clue why the Doctors allowed that .....I agree, R13 would be my estimate as well

 

[Makeshift Park]

Seems better to me than chewing up ,2 trades.

Its only 2 trades if you're trading him out for a player who you otherwise wouldn't be getting.

eg If your goal is to have Oliver and Libba in your completed team, you already have Oliver and don't have Libba, and you're trading Oliver to Libba now, you're just losing one trade, because it still would have cost you 1 trade to get Libba.

 

[Wellsy35]

Reasonably certain I’m gonna hold Oliver, and don’t want to halt the upgrade cadence, so thinking atm:

JVR/Simpson + Baker -> Ford + Steele

Bit of a risk going early on Ford, but have a tough league match up this week and the extra premo helps. Can’t afford anyone good by going Wardlaw, and bank taps out around $550k.

 

[afl freak]

Going to hold Oliver,

Out: Owens, Pickett
Ins: Humphrey (cash grab) and J. Cameron (Gonna kick a bag against GWS).