Trades 2023 Round 8 Trades

[Scythe94]

With a bit of DPP magic can get this done, 20 trades 55k in the bank thoughts?
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Trading in a $102k small forward rookie who hasn't played a game is a disastrous idea. Get a bubble rookie, or don't make the third trade and look for value picks instead IMO.

 

[Makeshift Park]

Trading in a $102k small forward rookie who hasn't played a game is a disastrous idea. Get a bubble rookie, or don't make the third trade and look for value picks instead IMO.

"Disastrous" is a bit OTT, assuming he's confident Ryan is a top 6 defensive prospect.
Its risky, perhaps unnecessarily so given he could wait a week.

 

[SloppyJoe]

I have pretty much locked and loaded Greene->Cincotta.

I don't really have the rookie capital or cash to make 2 more trades to bring in a premo, unless I burn the better rookies who either are scoring well (Ashcroft/Mckenna) or more money to make (Hollands/Baker).

But the non-playing rookies are very concerning. Johnson will be back I'm sure. Sturt is an EMG but who knows when he'll get another game. Roberts obviously is out long term. I'm beginning to question whether Kenstable ever existed.

Should I trade Roberts to one of this week's dodgy downgrade options? I make no cash (actually negative cash if I take Simpson). I still have cover on every line bar rucks but am worried about cash gen being stalled.

 

[Scythe94]

"Disastrous" is a bit OTT, assuming he's confident Ryan is a top 6 defensive prospect.
Its risky, perhaps unnecessarily so given he could wait a week.

Perhaps it was a bit blunt, you're right. But with the rookie graveyard that nearly all of us have on our benches, trading in a basement player two weeks before a potential price rise is extremely risky. It's bad enough dealing with dead rookies that are around the 150-180k mark, let alone ones that you would have to spend cash on to sideways trade.

 

[Hava Alle]

Hai gaiz! Apologies for my tardiness Judd_Magic and kyri , i have been trading away in the background tearing at the fabric of my team for no real gain and I am at the crossroads.

I’ve managed to jump from roughly 70k at the beginning of the season into the top 10k last week, but am now staring into the abyss pondering and procrastinating over the teams next move.

I am now exploring all avenues (giggidy) as to which trades need to be made this week.

Is it a triple downgrade to get these dead rooks of the bench and ensure that I will not have to run guys like Hopper and Sheezel as my last mid/fwd/def, OR, do I sit on my hands for a week and wait for some better rookies (barring Cinc) to appear?

Yours sincerely,

VeinGlorious

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P.s. Cinc is definitely coming in this week, just not sure if I’m going to grab Angwin, Simpson, both, or use the Cinc downgrade money to upgrade Connor McGregor or Setterfail.

Please help. Will post puppies.

And noodz.

Cowan - Cincotta
Greene - Simpson
Setterfault - Steele

 

[Spanish Sahara]

Grundy - Gawn (only real option without going to English or Roughying Darcy )
Pou - Cincotta (BE of 84 he has to go even with North this week)

Leaves me 365k.

I think I can afford to see how my loopholes go tonight (Cincotta and either Hollands or Wilmot)

Is it better to upgrade Fergus/Ginbey or flick Setters?

1) Ginbey/Fergus to Sic/Sinclair/Trac (50-100k bank)

2) Setterfield to Sic/Sinclair/Trac (200-250k bank)

3) Setterfeld to Oliver (141k bank)

 

[Makeshift Park]

patrickb29796 JVR has more mooing to do. Only got a BE of 21.
If you can use DPP magic to do a simple Greene > Cincotta trade this week, I'd do that.
Wait a week to see if Drury brings the goods and get your premo then.
Ryan'll probably only go up about $15k in that time - its no big deal in the scheme of things.

 

[Caztheconquerer]

Really unsure on what to do this week, at this stage have bought Taranto and cincotta in for setters and Greene and am considering Simpson or angwin for Cowan/caminitti but worried I won’t have enough cash gen or enough cash to grab a fallen premo next week. Any advice appreciated

 

[SloppyJoe]

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Grundy - Gawn (only real option without going to English or Roughying Darcy )
Pou - Cincotta (BE of 84 he has to go even with North this week)

Leaves me 365k.

I think I can afford to see how my loopholes go tonight (Cincotta and either Hollands or Wilmot)

Is it better to upgrade Fergus/Ginbey or flick Setters?

1) Ginbey/Fergus to Sic/Sinclair/Trac (50-100k bank)

2) Setterfield to Sic/Sinclair/Trac (200-250k bank)

3) Setterfeld to Oliver (141k bank)

Definitely get rid of Setterfield. None of them are permanent but his BE is a good 25 points higher than his average. Ginbey and Greene could easily hit their BEs.

Similarly with your trade ins, Oliver has a higher BE and you can probably afford to wait a week. I like Sinclair the best of the 3 mentioned. Sicily very close though.

 

[SloppyJoe]

Really unsure on what to do this week, at this stage have bought Taranto and cincotta in for setters and Greene and am considering Simpson or angwin for Cowan/caminitti but worried I won’t have enough cash gen or enough cash to grab a fallen premo next week. Any advice appreciated
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If you are worried about cash for someone next week then maybe look at other options besides Taranto. He will go up a bit more but IMO he will be back at $600k or below at some point in the not too distant future. There is more value around this week - Steele gives you an extra $70k in the bank for instance. Or maybe use DPP to get in a Sinclair or Sicily.

 

[Maybe Tomorrow]

"Disastrous" is a bit OTT, assuming he's confident Ryan is a top 6 defensive prospect.
Its risky, perhaps unnecessarily so given he could wait a week.

Just imo, but Luke Ryan, famous burn man, seems a bigger risk than Drury to me. Freo are going terribly, they have to changes things soon. Must effect his scoring.

 

[Maybe Tomorrow]

Sticking with what has been the plan for the majority of the week, though probably going to trade Young instead of Cowan now (wish we actually had a clue about what's wrong with Young besides "lower leg injury").

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I have decided to pick up Simpson instead of Dylan Williams.

Not saying that Williams is a bad pick as I would have definitely picked him up if funds were not so tight for me. I need to have sufficient cash on hand to plan my moves for the following weeks and that extra $30k between Simpson and Williams comes in handy.

Ginbey > Cincotta
McKenna > Sicily
Cowan > Simpson

Why Simpson over Angwin?

Not saying you are wrong, I can't decide so interested in your reasoning?

 

[Choppers]

Why Simpson over Angwin?

Not saying you are wrong, I can't decide so interested in your reasoning?

I'd be interested as well...

 

[Scythe94]

Why Simpson over Angwin?

Not saying you are wrong, I can't decide so interested in your reasoning?

Seemingly higher ceiling, more appealing draw.

But the main thing for me is that, if Simpson has a good game this week, he's unobtainable next week and there's no clear cut bubble rookies for downgrades.

If you bring Simpson in and Angwin plays well, he shouldn't cost much more than what Simpson does now. Happy to miss that first price rise to grab an extra rook this week and get another look at him.

 

[Makeshift Park]

Just imo, but Luke Ryan, famous burn man, seems a bigger risk than Drury to me. Freo are going terribly, they have to changes things soon. Must effect his scoring.

Ryan could be a disaster but Drury won't. Can't lose money on a 102k player - just a trade! In any case, as someone who's watched Drury a bit in the VFL, I think its unlikely he spuds up, and as discussed in the rookie thread, there is essentially no internal competition for his position. For goodness sake, Turner - a player pilloried by many for his continued selection despite his extraordinary limitations, and the player who Drury will be most likely replacing - even he managed to average 42 this season. If Drury got a 42 average, with his good JS he will earn his owners more than 100k! Not too shabby at this stage of proceedings.

Personally I've got Ryan pencilled down after his r12 bye as my last defensive recruit - if he continues performing at this level.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

I've moved heaven and earth to get Oliver in this week, but had to sacrifice Estava to do it. A little nervous not having ruck coverage now though!!

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Seemingly higher ceiling, more appealing draw.

But the main thing for me is that, if Simpson has a good game this week, he's unobtainable next week and there's no clear cut bubble rookies for downgrades.

If you bring Simpson in and Angwin plays well, he shouldn't cost much more than what Simpson does now. Happy to miss that first price rise to grab an extra rook this week and get another look at him.

My thinking as well on Simpson .....that should have you worried

Also, Bailey Humphrey looks the goods, loosing money each week .....which I know is contradictory, but he passes the eye test & GC are persevering with him

Another R13 Bye Rookie I'm looking at .....anything with a pulse

 

[SELFCONFESDAFLNERD]

Im seriously considering trading to Drury as i need someone under 140k to get Ridley up to Stewart. I dont like Angwin's chances of playing 4+ games more than Drury's. I'd like to keep my boost and im happy to keep all my rookies bar Greene.

Greene > Drury & Ridley > Stewart & bank 40k

 

[nicK_]

Thoughts on the following?




21 Trades left & 1 boost left

 

[BrutThough]

Steele and Cincotta locked in.

But is it better to trade out the dead rookie in Roberts and be left with nothing in my cap? Or trade out Phillipou/Greene who are playing but likely to drop in value and leaves me with 100k next week?

Looking at my current on field rookies I've got 2 on each line with 1 green dot on the bench so not too bad overall but with so few rookie on the horizon, it might be better to keep someone who is playing over the extra cash.

Def - McKenna, Wilmot/Mitchell
Mid - Ashcroft, McVee/Phillipou
Fwd - Sheezel (does he event count?), Greene/Davey.

 

[Maybe Tomorrow]

Ryan could be a disaster but Drury won't. Can't lose money on a 102k player - just a trade! In any case, as someone who's watched Drury a bit in the VFL, I think its unlikely he spuds up, and as discussed in the rookie thread, there is essentially no internal competition for his position. For goodness sake, Turner - a player pilloried by many for his continued selection despite his extraordinary limitations, and the player who Drury will be most likely replacing - even he managed to average 42 this season. If Drury got a 42 average, with his good JS he will earn his owners more than 100k! Not too shabby at this stage of proceedings.

Personally I've got Ryan pencilled down after his r12 bye as my last defensive recruit - if he continues performing at this level.

Do you think Hall gets dropped this week?

I'm not worried about Drury, although I agree with Scythe about not getting him yet. Sure we need downgrades, but we really need cash gen most and it's safer to hold that trade for 2 weeks if possible.

 

[BrutThough]

Thoughts on the following?

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21 Trades left & 1 boost left

Would you be better off trading Phillips or Phillipou instead of Greene? Greene's breakeven of 57 is more achievable.

 

[Nelso]

Seemingly higher ceiling, more appealing draw.

But the main thing for me is that, if Simpson has a good game this week, he's unobtainable next week and there's no clear cut bubble rookies for downgrades.

If you bring Simpson in and Angwin plays well, he shouldn't cost much more than what Simpson does now. Happy to miss that first price rise to grab an extra rook this week and get another look at him.

Same rationale for me although I must admit I have not seen Angwin play at all so I don't know anything about him.

Simpson has been in the system longer. I think his ceiling is higher because he will get on the end of a few goals by playing in a better team than Angwin. Although you run the risk of another head knock to Simpson and he will be gone for a long time.

But as mentioned above, we can get another look at Angwin this week.

 

[Dogs54]

Perhaps it was a bit blunt, you're right. But with the rookie graveyard that nearly all of us have on our benches, trading in a basement player two weeks before a potential price rise is extremely risky. It's bad enough dealing with dead rookies that are around the 150-180k mark, let alone ones that you would have to spend cash on to sideways trade.

Agree its risky as with all unknown rookies but less risky than bringing in a $166k player who after 7+ years for geelong has played 15 games.

 

[swindle]

Thoughts on the following?

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21 Trades left & 1 boost left

Trade out Pou not Wilmot imo, also worth considering another Mid if you care about byes Oliver, Laird and Trac all share Rd 14