List Mgmt. 2023 Trade & List Management discussion

[Tom14]

Id prefer Matho to Lyons but Lyons is contracted

 

[JasRulz63]

Player movements
IN - Doedee (FA), Ryan (trade), Joyce (SSP)
OUT - Rich (ret), Adams (ret), Fullarton (trade), Gunston (trade), Cockatoo (ret)
OOC - B. Coleman, Zorko, Mathieson (cat A), Michael (cat A), Brain (cat B), McDowell-White Jnr (cat B)

Current list numbers
Primary list (36-38) - 34
Rookie list - category A (4-6) - 6
Rookie list - category B (0-2) - 2
Total (44) - 42 (2 available)

Draft picks
2023 - 30, 39, 51, 54
2024 - 1st, 3rd, 4th (Haw), 4th, 5th

 

[briztoon]

Port have cleared out of 2 consecutive drafts. Risky.

And have traded our their future first as well.

 

[Dalions]

And have traded our their future first as well.

Was that in the Soldo trade?
What kinda crazy shit is that?

 

[Hollow Knight]

Hello darkness my old friend…

 

[JasRulz63]

Was that in the Soldo trade?
What kinda crazy s**t is that?

They split their future first with Freo, and then traded the two picks away (with other picks) for Ratugolea, Sweet and Soldo.

 

[3KZ is Football]

Still celebrating finishing second I see.

LEGEND.

 

[WhiteLionFeva]

Gresham wants to play in front of big crowds. Good luck buddy. He will find big Essendon crowds are a different sort of beast when you don't produce the goods.

 

[3KZ is Football]

Hodge, Birchall and Gunston all Lions legends.

PRODUCTIVE STAGE: Hodge
DIMINISHING RETURNS: Birchall
NEGATIVE RETURNS: Gunston

 

[rye]

thank god we will never see that photo of fagan and gunston hugging posted on the board again

 

[JasRulz63]

View attachment 1834924PRODUCTIVE STAGE: Hodge
DIMINISHING RETURNS: Birchall
NEGATIVE RETURNS: Gunston

Slowly getting younger with our Hawthorn recruits. Hodge was 34yo, Birchall was 32yo and Gunston was 31yo when they debuted for us.

 

[martinson]

The end comes quicker for a lot of players than many think. The projections on some of ours are on the optimistic side imo. Our best players are as good as they'll ever get now.

Freaks like Pendlebury , Burgoyne and Mundy can go on for a long time but they're the vast exception to the rule and still needed matchwinners around them to play the important roles they did.

This is the pointy end of our window. We missed out by a kick this year. Next year is what I think will be another 2 shots.

I don't mind bringing Ryan in because he's 25 and we'll know soon enough whether he can value add to the team.

I think Zorks should retire. Even though we're still a player or two lacking in the M/F it's time for Bailey ,Rayner ,Berry ?? , somebody to step up and give us some extra grunt there for longer periods.

 

[Pride of lions]

Player movements
IN - Doedee (FA), Ryan (trade), Joyce (SSP)
OUT - Rich (ret), Adams (ret), Fullarton (trade), Gunston (trade)
OOC - B. Coleman, Zorko, Mathieson (cat A), Michael (cat A), Brain (cat B), McDowell-White Jnr (cat B)

Current list numbers
Primary list (36-38) - 34
Rookie list - category A (4-6) - 6
Rookie list - category B (0-2) - 2
Total (44) - 42 (2 available)

Draft picks
2023 - 30, 39, 51, 54
2024 - 1st, 3rd, 4th (Haw), 4th, 5th

Cockatoo has also retired

 

[JasRulz63]

Cockatoo has also retired

Whoops, thanks. Edited.

 

[briztoon]

Was that in the Soldo trade?
What kinda crazy s**t is that?

No. They traded their future first to Fremantle for Fremantle’s 2023 & 2024 second round picks. Traded 1 for Ratugolea, not sure who they traded the other for.

 

[BuntonRules]

The end comes quicker for a lot of players than many think. The projections on some of ours are on the optimistic side imo. Our best players are as good as they'll ever get now.

Freaks like Pendlebury , Burgoyne and Mundy can go on for a long time but they're the vast exception to the rule and still needed matchwinners around them to play the important roles they did.

This is the pointy end of our window. We missed out by a kick this year. Next year is what I think will be another 2 shots.

I don't mind bringing Ryan in because he's 25 and we'll know soon enough whether he can value add to the team.

I think Zorks should retire. Even though we're still a player or two lacking in the M/F it's time for Bailey ,Rayner ,Berry ?? , somebody to step up and give us some extra grunt there for longer periods.

No one else sees, and kicks like him. Role player/sub with a weapon. If he is prepared to play VFL if required, play on.

 

[Hollow Knight]

 

[JasRulz63]

No. They traded their future first to Fremantle for Fremantle’s 2023 & 2024 second round picks. Traded 1 for Ratugolea, not sure who they traded the other for.

The Freo 2024 second round pick was involved in the Soldo trade.

 

[Section 5]

Only 2 clubs got an A trade rating by foxsports this year.
Those being Swans and Bombers
Lions got a B

Trade report card: Every AFL club graded after hectic finish to 2023 exchange period

Trade stunner to spark finals push; ‘swing and miss’ amid rival ‘game-changer’: Report Card

www.foxsports.com.au

BRISBANE LIONS

Who left: Tom Fullarton (trade, Melbourne), Jack Gunston

19

Jack Gunston

Age

33

Ht

193cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

15.5

4star

K

10.5

4star

HB

5.0

4star

M

5.7

5star

T

2.2

4star

G

1.9

5star

D

10.6

3star

K

8.0

3star

HB

2.6

2star

M

4.3

4star

T

1.7

3star

G

1.6

5star

D

11.2

3star

K

7.0

3star

HB

4.2

4star

M

3.2

4star

T

2.6

4star

G

0.6

3star

(trade, Hawthorn)

Who arrived: Tom Doedee (free agent, Adelaide), Brandon Ryan (trade, Hawthorn)

Draft picks owned: 30, 39, 51, 54, 67

David King says: “Doedee is an obvious hole for them when you see what happened Grand Final day with Harris Andrews

31

Harris Andrews

Age

27

Ht

202cm

Wt

98kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.8

3star

K

7.4

3star

HB

5.4

4star

M

5.6

5star

T

1.6

4star

MG

151.7

2star

D

17.0

4star

K

9.0

4star

HB

8.0

4star

M

4.0

4star

T

2.0

3star

D

9.8

3star

K

5.0

2star

HB

4.8

4star

M

3.4

4star

T

1.6

4star

MG

94.0

2star

being locked away. Who else was going to be that interceptor? Kiddy Coleman did what he did as a halfback flanker but I think this is a terrific get. I like the way this guy plays. He’s fallen out of love with the Adelaide Crows and that can happen. Go to a fresh opportunity. He’s a solid citizen. He’s a heart and soul. I think it’s a great get for Brisbane.”

Leigh Montagna says: “I think when (Doedee) comes back he adds, Will Ashcroft comes back, next year’s draft they’ve got a top five pick in Levi Ashcroft – talk about father-sons! He’s almost as good as Will so that’s scary for the opposition. They are in a good position, Brisbane.”

Foxfooty.com.au trade grade: B

 

[JasRulz63]

Only 2 clubs got an A trade rating by foxsports this year.
Those being Swans and Bombers
Lions got a B

Trade report card: Every AFL club graded after hectic finish to 2023 exchange period

Trade stunner to spark finals push; ‘swing and miss’ amid rival ‘game-changer’: Report Card

www.foxsports.com.au

BRISBANE LIONS

Who left: Tom Fullarton (trade, Melbourne), Jack Gunston (trade, Hawthorn)

Who arrived: Tom Doedee (free agent, Adelaide), Brandon Ryan (trade, Hawthorn)

Draft picks owned: 30, 39, 51, 54, 67

David King says: “Doedee is an obvious hole for them when you see what happened Grand Final day with Harris Andrews being locked away. Who else was going to be that interceptor? Kiddy Coleman did what he did as a halfback flanker but I think this is a terrific get. I like the way this guy plays. He’s fallen out of love with the Adelaide Crows and that can happen. Go to a fresh opportunity. He’s a solid citizen. He’s a heart and soul. I think it’s a great get for Brisbane.”

Leigh Montagna says: “I think when (Doedee) comes back he adds, Will Ashcroft comes back, next year’s draft they’ve got a top five pick in Levi Ashcroft – talk about father-sons! He’s almost as good as Will so that’s scary for the opposition. They are in a good position, Brisbane.”

Foxfooty.com.au trade grade: B

Geelong should've got an F for all the posturing with Ratugolea just to get picks 76 and 94, and then to say they would be useful in the upcoming draft.

 

[luthor]

Geelong should've got an F for all the posturing with Ratugolea just to get picks 76 and 94, and then to say they would be useful in the upcoming draft.

Absolute self indilulgent bull from the Cats.

"Extracted" 76 and 94.

Lol!!!

May as well be 176 and 194.

Give yourselves an uppercut Geelong

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[Morbidly_Obese]

I kinda wanted us to trade for a big bodied midfielder as a backup for Dunkley but oh well.

 

[Warwick]

From afl.com:

We say: It looked like being a quiet period for the Lions before Gunston's desire to return to Victoria spiced things up. They managed to tick Doedee off early in the free agency period, and although he won't be seen until the middle of next season as he recovers from a ruptured ACL, the former Crow is expected to be a nice complement to co-captain Harris Andrews

31

Harris Andrews

Age

27

Ht

202cm

Wt

98kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.8

3star

K

7.4

3star

HB

5.4

4star

M

5.6

5star

T

1.6

4star

MG

151.7

2star

D

17.0

4star

K

9.0

4star

HB

8.0

4star

M

4.0

4star

T

2.0

3star

D

9.8

3star

K

5.0

2star

HB

4.8

4star

M

3.4

4star

T

1.6

4star

MG

94.0

2star

and Jack Payne in the key defensive posts. Although the Gunston departure was slightly unexpected, he had drifted out of Brisbane's best 22 and now the club lands the younger Ryan that it can develop over a number of years in a part of the ground they are lacking depth. – Michael Whiting

He can’t develop too slowly Fish! He’ll be 30 in a ‘number of years’.

 

[Hollow Knight]

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/afl-trade-period-2023-every-clubs-ins-outs-and-rating/news-story/884f669503803f5a7b821e64914544db?amp

Anyone able to get the Lions review from behind Murdoch's dirty paywall?

 

[NewkTheLot]

Think you have done well with the Ryan trade. Hard to tell what his ceiling is off only a couple of games but looks a clear upgrade on Fullarton, plus you’ve managed to shift Gunston who I can only assume we think can be a valuable coach to a young group.

One word of warning though - in his first two games at Box Hill Ryan kicked 1.3 and 0.6 so he can have some flaky days in front of goal!