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Rod Stroker said:
I just read that Hawthorn only got 19 for Buddy? That's piss funny if true and I'm loving the melts with us getting 3 for Ben
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Famously they got 19 while Melbourne got 2 for Hawks poaching Frawley. Both Band 1. Joking aside that’s exactly how it is meant to work - a premiership side can manage much better than a wooden spooner when they lose a player on a big contract.
 

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Rod Stroker said:
I just read that Hawthorn only got 19 for Buddy? That's piss funny if true and I'm loving the melts with us getting 3 for Ben
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Yet both were the same reward for losing a required player, a band one selection. We just happened to be second last the season prior while they were premiers.

Say that to a Hawks (or any salty oppo) supporter and…..

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ferball said:
So long as he starts running as f ast as he can once he's there.
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Yeah, tbh, i couldn't tell you who played on the other wing opposite Scott for the last two or so years, so many people who don't know how to play wing have been playing that position largely because we don't draft natural wingmen.
 
bennymate said:
Just spent the morning arguing with Pies supporters claiming that Bianco walks on to our wing.. LOL.
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I'd be surprised if any team is stupid enough to pick him up.

Too slow.
Too soft.
Too short.

Shite I think I just described myself.

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Twinkletoes said:
Yet both were the same reward for losing a required player, a band one selection. We just happened to be second last the season prior while they were premiers.

Say that to a Hawks (or any salty oppo) supporter and…..

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Fair enough. Sounds like the system is working as it should!
 
bigmikles089 said:
Afternoon all, I understand our tribes aren't exactly getting along on the forums at the moment but I had a query in relation to Jacob Edwards and why he never really got going?

I recall he was touted as a likely first round draft pick when you guys snagged him and it seems like he just hovered around for a few seasons. Was it a professionalism or form issue?
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Was 200cm and 100kg and was as soft a player that I have seen in my 50 years following football

No heart, desire or mongrel in him.



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I liked Ben McKay as a player but has anyone told Dildoro about McKays glass jaw.

Unfortunately has already been concussed 3 times from inocuous knocks.

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Sphynx said:
The pain has been worth it.

Since the years of Brad and comments by the media “North have no top end talent”
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Bit early tbh. Haven't won anything yet. Carlton, for example, had years of low and no 1 picks and their best effort was a semi final, and that was only after bringing the best mid of the modern era to the club

I'm sure they thought the same of Murphy, Gibbs, Kreuz etc as we do sheez, Wardlaw, Phillips, Reid (if we get him) etc
 


 
Tiberius said:
With the news about losing our key defensive pillar coming so completely out of the blue, who do people think we could target to fill our holes in defence?
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I am curious why everyone is happy with losing our only key defender, especially with Logue injured. I feel like we’re being set back even further if our defense looks even worse. Am I missing something?
 

AFL Trades 2023: Pick 1 chase hots up as Ben McKay compensation pick confirmed​

A compensation pick for losing Ben McKay to Essendon has armed the Kangaroos to make a bumper offer to West Coast for pick 1. Will it be enough?
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October 10, 2023 - 3:16PM
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Eagles still unsure of trading No.1 pick?

AFL: The Eagles are insisting they are still likely to retain the number one pick in this year's draft despite consistent rumours they will trade the pick to North Melbourne.


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West Coast wants to take Tongala prodigy Harley Reid with the first pick in the national draft unless North Melbourne is prepared to swap picks 2 and 3.
The Eagles have settled on Reid as their clear top target and were left impressed by his interview at the draft combine last week, with some likening his presence to Hawthorn champion Luke Hodge.
North Melbourne received pick 3 as free agency compensation for the departure of full-back Ben McKay to Essendon on Tuesday, giving the Roos a huge arsenal of draft picks, including 2, 3, 15 and 21 to strike a deal with West Coast.
But any hopes the Roos had of securing pick 1 have taken a hit as the Eagles look unlikely to cough it up unless North hands over picks 2 and 3 in return, setting a high bar for one of the biggest trades of the post-season.
That asking price could be too steep for the Kangaroos, who are believed to be looking at line-breaking left-footer Colby McKercher at pick 2 and dangerous goalkicking midfielder Zane Duursma at pick 3, according to recruiters.
It means Hawthorn could snare speedy small forward Nick Watson at pick 4, the Western Bulldogs snap up jet midfielder Ryley Sanders at pick 5, and Melbourne could look at forward Nate Caddy or key defender Daniel Curtin at pick 6.
There is a belief Western Australian Curtin could be sliding down clubs’ draft orders, meaning the Giants face the prospect of landing Curtin if he falls as far as pick 7.
Harley Reid is considered a generational talent. Picture: Graham Denholm/AFL Photos via Getty Images

Harley Reid is considered a generational talent. Picture: Graham Denholm/AFL Photos via Getty Images
Another option is for North Melbourne to acquire pick 11 in a trade with Gold Coast and offer West Coast picks 2, 11 and a future first-round pick for pick 1, but that still may not be enough to satisfy the Eagles.
Recruiting sources on Tuesday said it seemed likely West Coast would keep pick 1 rather than trade it out, unless North parted with picks 2 and 3 in one of the biggest pick swaps in AFL trade history.

The Kangaroos have four picks inside the top 21 selections to help strike a deal with West Coast after the free agency compensation for McKay went through as expected on Tuesday morning.
The Roos also have three future picks (from next year) to deal out as part of the AFL’s draft assistance package.
North did not match Essendon’s offer to McKay, which is believed to be less than $800,000 a year. The compensation selection is a reward for the way the Roos have handled McKay’s situation this year, delaying on offering the defender a new deal.
[PLAYERCARD]Ben McKay[/PLAYERCARD] is now a Bomber. Picture: Quinn Rooney/Getty Images

Ben McKay is now a Bomber. Picture: Quinn Rooney/Getty Images
Pick 3 as free agency compensation is a massive boost for North Melbourne, which could have one of the most talented lists in the competition in a few years following several drafts loading up on high-end talent.
However, clubs are certain North Melbourne coach Alastair Clarkson would love Reid, who is a powerful goalkicker and dominant forward-half ball-winner in the same mould as Dustin Martin.
The Eagles want to take Reid in the belief he is a generational talent and someone they could not pass up after two years down the bottom of the ladder.
Reid told the Eagles he would have no problems moving interstate to play AFL.
North Melbourne already has a stack of first-round players in the engine room including brilliant ballwinners Harry Sheezel, who won a best and fairest in his first year, hard nut George Wardlaw, Luke Davies-Uniacke, pick three Will Phillips, slick prime mover Tarryn Thomas and goal kicker Jaidyn Stephenson.
Plus there are high hopes for knee victim Brayden George, who the Roos took at pick 26 last year.
 
JRW9 said:
I am curious why everyone is happy with losing our only key defender, especially with Logue injured. I feel like we’re being set back even further if our defense looks even worse. Am I missing something?
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We got stupid overs and he wasn’t amazing. Does he leave a hole? No doubt about it. I wanted to keep old Benny boy, but not at the expense of pick 3.
 
Smoocher said:
I liked Ben McKay as a player but has anyone told Dildoro about McKays glass jaw.

Unfortunately has already been concussed 3 times from inocuous knocks.

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They would treat concusions worse than Poort would. Those medical reports will find their way to the shredder room.... Yes they have a room for their shredders.
 
JRW9 said:
I am curious why everyone is happy with losing our only key defender, especially with Logue injured. I feel like we’re being set back even further if our defense looks even worse. Am I missing something?
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We found out the news we had lost Ben weeks ago and have come to terms with it.
Pick 3 is awesome compensation so we are happy with it.
 
Rooboy1708 said:

AFL Trades 2023: Pick 1 chase hots up as Ben McKay compensation pick confirmed​

A compensation pick for losing Ben McKay to Essendon has armed the Kangaroos to make a bumper offer to West Coast for pick 1. Will it be enough?
Jay ClarkJay Clark
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@ClarkyHeraldSun

3 min read
October 10, 2023 - 3:16PM
News Corp Australia Sports Newsroom
1 comments




00:33
Eagles still unsure of trading No.1 pick?

AFL: The Eagles are insisting they are still likely to retain the number one pick in this year's draft despite consistent rumours they will trade the pick to North Melbourne.


Trade HQ​

Don't miss out on the headlines from Trade HQ. Followed categories will be added to My News.
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West Coast wants to take Tongala prodigy Harley Reid with the first pick in the national draft unless North Melbourne is prepared to swap picks 2 and 3.
The Eagles have settled on Reid as their clear top target and were left impressed by his interview at the draft combine last week, with some likening his presence to Hawthorn champion Luke Hodge.
North Melbourne received pick 3 as free agency compensation for the departure of full-back Ben McKay to Essendon on Tuesday, giving the Roos a huge arsenal of draft picks, including 2, 3, 15 and 21 to strike a deal with West Coast.
But any hopes the Roos had of securing pick 1 have taken a hit as the Eagles look unlikely to cough it up unless North hands over picks 2 and 3 in return, setting a high bar for one of the biggest trades of the post-season.
That asking price could be too steep for the Kangaroos, who are believed to be looking at line-breaking left-footer Colby McKercher at pick 2 and dangerous goalkicking midfielder Zane Duursma at pick 3, according to recruiters.
It means Hawthorn could snare speedy small forward Nick Watson at pick 4, the Western Bulldogs snap up jet midfielder Ryley Sanders at pick 5, and Melbourne could look at forward Nate Caddy or key defender Daniel Curtin at pick 6.
There is a belief Western Australian Curtin could be sliding down clubs’ draft orders, meaning the Giants face the prospect of landing Curtin if he falls as far as pick 7.
Harley Reid is considered a generational talent. Picture: Graham Denholm/AFL Photos via Getty Images

Harley Reid is considered a generational talent. Picture: Graham Denholm/AFL Photos via Getty Images
Another option is for North Melbourne to acquire pick 11 in a trade with Gold Coast and offer West Coast picks 2, 11 and a future first-round pick for pick 1, but that still may not be enough to satisfy the Eagles.
Recruiting sources on Tuesday said it seemed likely West Coast would keep pick 1 rather than trade it out, unless North parted with picks 2 and 3 in one of the biggest pick swaps in AFL trade history.

The Kangaroos have four picks inside the top 21 selections to help strike a deal with West Coast after the free agency compensation for McKay went through as expected on Tuesday morning.
The Roos also have three future picks (from next year) to deal out as part of the AFL’s draft assistance package.
North did not match Essendon’s offer to McKay, which is believed to be less than $800,000 a year. The compensation selection is a reward for the way the Roos have handled McKay’s situation this year, delaying on offering the defender a new deal.
Ben McKay is now a Bomber. Picture: Quinn Rooney/Getty Images

Ben McKay is now a Bomber. Picture: Quinn Rooney/Getty Images
Pick 3 as free agency compensation is a massive boost for North Melbourne, which could have one of the most talented lists in the competition in a few years following several drafts loading up on high-end talent.
However, clubs are certain North Melbourne coach Alastair Clarkson would love Reid, who is a powerful goalkicker and dominant forward-half ball-winner in the same mould as Dustin Martin.
The Eagles want to take Reid in the belief he is a generational talent and someone they could not pass up after two years down the bottom of the ladder.
Reid told the Eagles he would have no problems moving interstate to play AFL.
North Melbourne already has a stack of first-round players in the engine room including brilliant ballwinners Harry Sheezel, who won a best and fairest in his first year, hard nut George Wardlaw, Luke Davies-Uniacke, pick three Will Phillips, slick prime mover Tarryn Thomas and goal kicker Jaidyn Stephenson.
Plus there are high hopes for knee victim Brayden George, who the Roos took at pick 26 last year.
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I didn’t read the article I just want to highlight the meme potential of this photo
 
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