List Mgmt. 2023 Trade & List Management Thread II - Goldy&Bucket➡️✅/'24 EoFR & #44➡️Stephens&#25✅/#21&#25➡️Fisher&#17✅/'24 EoFR➡️#18✅

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Spoiler: 2023 Draft Order

Spoiler: 2024 Draft Order, aka Future Picks

Spoiler: Blue Tick Rumours

 

[Merlin007]

Good business - picks will slide around, but currently values Stephens at between 35 and 36

 

[krakouers]

They live in Western Australia, they have nothing else in life.

When I get what your point is in 20 years... ill get mad

 

[Bugz]

Apologies for the intrusion.

Does anyone else think that the last couple days of back and forth about pick 1 value has been played out in public deliberately?

If the deal is done, both clubs will be able to point out how they got more or gave less than the other wanted.

I suspect the deal is mostly done, and both sets of fans will be disappointed.

 

[Colby Cheer Squad]

Can someone please post this for the laughs. Thanks.

How many more years is Hawthorn going to sook about the Franklin compo?

 

[Horace]

I heard a caller on SEN this morning who suggested that maybe the Eagles do not intend to draft Reid, but Curtin instead, and are simply pushing hard to offload Pick 1 to any club who will provide them with two (or more) very good picks in the top few picks of the draft. It makes sense in a major rebuilding year when they need to get as many good picks as they can.

Any thoughts anyone?

 

[justroyal]

Hawthorn: Accepts three top 3 priority picks from AFL to help with their flag.
Hawthorn: Contributes to bidding war pushing McKay into Band 1
Hawthorn: Expresses frustration with band 1 compo being triggered

Ha..ha.

Has north expressed their frustration with the hawthorn saga??

 

[Sphynx]

The fisher trade is a bit of a tricky one.

I recon he is worth a pick between 30 and 35.

Carlton are lacking capital to help this deal.


Fisher & 17

for PP & 25


Values him at pick 32 on the points table if PP is Pick 20.

Not sure I'd do it though, it's overs for him. But when you factor in us having to trade these, they lose value a bit.

 

[Colby Cheer Squad]

Apologies for the intrusion.

Does anyone else think that the last couple days of back and forth about pick 1 value has been played out in public deliberately?

If the deal is done, both clubs will be able to point out how they got more or gave less than the other wanted.

I suspect the deal is mostly done, and both sets of fans will be disappointed.

How to know when it's a fair deal? When both sets of fans are disappointed.

 

[Lavy_Panther]

BRADY: “Future second rounder + Kayne Turner

28

Kayne Turner

Age

28

Ht

180cm

Wt

71kg

Pos.

D/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.3

3star

K

5.6

2star

HB

5.7

4star

M

2.6

3star

T

3.5

5star

MG

150.3

2star

No current season stats available

D

11.0

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

4.2

4star

M

3.2

4star

T

4.8

5star

for pick 1 and a future 2nd, deal?“ * spits on hand and offers it*
WEST COAST LIST MANAGER: Are you crazy?
BRADY: * grabs WC List Managers hand and tries to shake it*
WEST COAST LIST MANAGER: Brady, you’re making me uncomfortable, I need to go…
BRADY: Let’s keep in touch! * makes ‘call me’ hand gesture*

 

[justroyal]

I heard a caller on SEN this morning who suggested that maybe the Eagles do not intend to draft Reid, but Curtin instead, and are simply pushing hard to offload Pick 1 to any club who will provide them with two (or more) very good picks in the top few picks of the draft. It makes sense in a major rebuilding year when they need to get as many good picks as they can.

Any thoughts anyone?

Yeah I think we said this like 4 weeks ago. But you might have missed it because of the flock of WC posters losing their shit at the idea of that and rebutting every suggestion other than they’re taking Reid.

 

[Bugz]

How to know when it's a fair deal? When both sets of fans are disappointed.

Reading the Weagles board, they'll be apoplectic with anything less than 2 and 3

 

[HBFlanker]

How do we get 31 and 11 from GC? Maybe 15, 21/25 and the other ‘24 assistance pick? On-trade 31 for fisher

Like that a lot.

 

[The Anvil]

Now our draft hand sits at:

2023: 2, 3, 15, 21, 25, 56, 64

2024: F1, F1 (PP), F2, F3, F4

Not sure I'd do it if I was the Eagles, but 15, 21, 25, and next year's 1st assistance would provide the Eagles with a complete midfield for Pick 1.

 

[Samsquanch]

Station St, Fairfield. But I’m guessing there’s probably a heap of shops making the same claim.
One of our competitors used to make the claim on their website that they had ‘the best piano workshop in the universe’. That claim was as accurate as saying that CCJ, Keenan Reynolds and David Calthorpe are the best 3 signings in the modern age.

David Bourke and John Mossop like this.

 

[krakouers]

I heard a caller on SEN this morning who suggested that maybe the Eagles do not intend to draft Reid, but Curtin instead, and are simply pushing hard to offload Pick 1 to any club who will provide them with two (or more) very good picks in the top few picks of the draft. It makes sense in a major rebuilding year when they need to get as many good picks as they can.

Any thoughts anyone?

Would be a mid before a key back, think its McKercher

 

[giantroo]

 

[Jeremy Jordan]

BRADY: “Future second rounder + Kayne Turner for pick 1 and a future 2nd, deal?“ * spits on hand and offers it*
WEST COAST LIST MANAGER: Are you crazy?
BRADY: * grabs WC List Managers hand and tries to shake it*
WEST COAST LIST MANAGER: Brady, you’re making me uncomfortable, I need to go…
BRADY: Let’s keep in touch! * makes ‘call me’ hand gesture*

Wardlaw and Sheezle: Mr Rawlings, that story isn’t suitable for children.
Brady: Really? I keep my pants on in this version

 

[Sphynx]

We must have 18 on the table if we want it for some agreed deal.

 

[Ichiro #51]

If we're offering "4 1st round picks" like they're reporting meaning 14 + 3 PPs that is brilliant.

The classic BF spud+spud+spud+spud = gun trade re-imagined for an exciting new era. Love it!

 

[Snowy off the Tram]

Carlton are lacking capital to help this deal.


Fisher & 17

for PP & 25


Values him at pick 32 on the points table if PP is Pick 20.

Not sure I'd do it though, it's overs for him. But when you factor in us having to trade these, they lose value a bit.

I know it's that time of year when we over-rate our own players, and under-rate the opposition, but Zac Fisher is a very modestly talented player who racks up clangers and turnovers. Pick 32 is way overs ...

 

[speedy]

Not sure I'd do it if I was the Eagles, but 15, 21, 25, and next year's 1st assistance would provide the Eagles with a complete midfield for Pick 1.

Or a complete backline for us.

 

[giantroo]

Sounds like they've given up on pick 1.

Hawk see stars at top of draft pool​

By Roy Ward​

There has been plenty of talk about Hawthorn potentially trading the fourth pick in the AFL draft, but Hawks football manager Rob McCartney says they could still land a top player with the pick.

McCartney said the Hawks were confident there were “five to six” standout players at the top of the draft.

“It’s around picking the best talent,” McCartney told SEN 1116 on Wednesday.

“We’re really comfortable that there’s five or six really, highly talented players at the top end and then there’s another step to the next group.

“Whether it’s a small forward or a key defender or key back or a midfielder – we think that high-end talent is something that we definitely want to get into our group, and it doesn’t really matter what position that is.”

 

[Roo202]

Did we just trade out one of the picks we offered the Eagles?

One of the future firsts just became pick 25 in the offer, WC better take it before it gets any worse for them!

 

[krakouers]

Carlton are lacking capital to help this deal.


Fisher & 17 & 69

for PP & 25


Values him at pick 32 on the points table if PP is Pick 20.

Not sure I'd do it though, it's overs for him. But when you factor in us having to trade these, they lose value a bit.

Pick 69 (giggty) also?

TBF a little steep but that seems right for both, Carl have it in their heads that he's worth more due to contract but they can use that PP for one of the Camporales next year

 

[Muscles Thommo]

For the love of god no.... dont waste what we have