Ultimate Glory 2023 Trade speculation and Shinbeggars discussion

[burner1]

He's not looked good at all today. Positioning has been terrible.

Was the high risk pick at time that suns shouldn’t make as their development is poor. Andrew still looks super skinny.

 

[Bugs1977]

He's not looked good at all today. Positioning has been terrible.

How much does he weigh? Looks like he's in the mid 70 kgs but to hold his ground in the contest he would need to get himself into the mid 80 kgs.

 

[killerspud]

Mac Andrew looks rubbish

He's a second year player. And a skinny key position at that. People thinking he's going to set the world on fire are in dreamworld. But to say he's rubbish after one match is premature. Time and the right development he could be anything. Don't always be so quick to deride

 

[TDS7]

He's a second year player. And a skinny key position at that. People thinking he's going to set the world on fire are in dreamworld. But to say he's rubbish after one match is premature. Time and the right development he could be anything. Don't always be so quick to deride

These are the same people saying DGB not getting games means he'll never make it.

 

[hawkmang]

These are the same people saying DGB not getting games means he'll never make it.

Wrong - I think DGB will make it and think we should be playing him right now.

You can be undersized and show intent. Andrew looked like he was on a stroll at times during the game today, wasn’t pressuring to tackle and seemed to be watching the game. DGB for better or worse always has a crack.

 

[killerspud]

These are the same people saying DGB not getting games means he'll never make it.

Yeah and that annoys the shit out of me as think of any key defender - off the top of my head Steven May, Aliir Aliir, Darcy Moore, Jacob Weitering - they all took at least 3-4 years in the system before they were regular first team players. This is Denver's third year he's what not yet 22 and people think that at 22 he's not going to make it.
Time and development. Training, skills, weights programs. There are very very few players who come in as teenageras and make immediate impact. The taller they are the longer they'll take to develop. It astounds me that people don't get that

Also those same people who say he won't make it then think we can trade him for a first round pick?!?!?!?

 

[Dewnior]

Even if you had picks 3 and 5 before it and were guaranteed a FS who was potential top 20?

a stockpiling of one type of player just because they are best available might be leaving you with a hole in your list - I'm not saying you'd go for a player slated to go above top 15 but if you got two tall key position players 3 and 5 and had McCabe coming in pick 6 would be for the best available small forward

This is all hypothetical and hopefully we get Watson. Moir is another we should look at if The Wiz is off the table

Then you'd trade pick 6 and slide down the order to where the next best small forward is rated and hopefully pick up a future first along with it.

Or as SYL said, just take the best available at 6

 

[naysayer]

Unfortunately for freo their pick is off to Melbourne and gives them a shot at landing Reid.

I mentioned mac Andrew a couple weeks back as kpd option , back into the side today and keen to see how he goes. He is Very good friends with cmac and then there is the cj connection.

MM: Does he have "Mac" in his name?
GC: Yes, his first name is Mac.
MM: How do you feel about Ned Long?
GC: Is he Michael Long's son?
MM: Yes

 

[FB19]

MM: Does he have "Mac" in his name?
GC: Yes, his first name is Mac.
MM: How do you feel about Ned Long?
GC: Is he Michael Long's son?
MM: Yes

Was disappointed we didn’t pick up Noah Long last year for that reason…

 

[BIGHAWK23]

Ricarddi

 

[Mojo]

Some interesting comments regarding Jake Riccardi in this thread:

Recommitted - Jake Riccardi [Re-signed to 2026]

What's the go with this guy? Out of contract and can't get a game at GWS. I always like him, reckon he'd be a good cheap pickup. Averaging 16 disposals, 7 marks and 3 goals a game in the VFL. Is he likely to re-sign? What's he worth at the trade table? I'd say an early 3rd rounder at best...

www.bigfooty.com

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

 

[Billyc]

Riccardi is a great target for us - capable of playing key position at either end.

 

[TylerDurden]

Perfect target.

 

[Billyc]

Need him to stop playing well though

 

[HeHateMe]

Would be interesting if the AFL allow pick purchasing and let us include Riccardi in the deal. Hand over a mill and get pick 7 or 8 + Riccardi. Would we need to also send back a future pick?

 

[smish]

Would be interesting if the AFL allow pick purchasing and let us include Riccardi in the deal. Hand over a mill and get pick 7 or 8 + Riccardi. Would we need to also send back a future pick?

F4 if using the precedent from last year

 

[Ballsontheline]

I've been mentioning Riccardi on here for so long. It's a no brainer, cheap get and the perfect age profile for us.
A position that we are sreaming out for.
He will love what he's seeing with us right now.

 

[Books]

What would Riccardi cost?

Until his recent good form, a 3rd rounder may have been enough.

Now, knowing how much GWS love early picks, I can see them asking for pick 3 (our first) for Riccardi and one of their firsts (currently 8 and 10).

 

[Books]

This report says yet to be offered a contract. Earlier in the year I read that he had put talks on hold.

 

[I got the outside word]

What would Riccardi cost?

Until his recent good form, a 3rd rounder may have been enough.

Now, knowing how much GWS love early picks, I can see them asking for pick 3 (our first) for Riccardi and one of their firsts (currently 8 and 10).

Out of contract I think? We’ll tack on another $38 to the salary dump and they can chuck him in. So we take $1,000,0038, they send us pick 8 and Riccardi.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

I didn’t watch his game on the weekend but prior to playing seniors he’d been kicking bags at VFL level.

I see him as a very similar type of player to Lewis, but maybe it would work.

 

[WWSD]

I didn’t watch his game on the weekend but prior to playing seniors he’d been kicking bags at VFL level.

I see him as a very similar type of player to Lewis, but maybe it would work.

Would Riccardi be a better fit than Koschitzke as the centre half forward for Hawthorn? Having watched Riccardi play live in the VFL a couple of times before he was drafted, he knows how to take marks on the lead and has good leading patterns as a forward. That is something Koschitzke struggles with.

 

[MrPremiership]

Is Riccardi an upgrade on Kosi? Yes.

But by how much? That will determine whether we're prepared to pay whatever the price will be

 

[Holy Rioli]

Is Riccardi an upgrade on Kosi? Yes.

But by how much? That will determine whether we're prepared to pay whatever the price will be

More flexible? Can play both ends.