Ultimate Glory 2023 Trade speculation and Shinbeggars discussion

[burner1]

Its a thing. Been in the background a while with a few clubs approached . May not necessarily be Haynes either if it happens.
Nothing will progress for now as they have finals and feel a real chance to take it all out

Any idea what comes with the dump though? GWS pretty categoric that not a first round pick.

 

[SodaPop]

Any idea what comes with the dump though? GWS pretty categoric that not a first round pick.

We’ll they’re way over the cap. No club will be that charitable and take on a salary dump for a 2nd round pick. They dug their hole.

They have 6 and 13 both of which will be pushed back. 13 may be enticing for some clubs?

 

[user33]

We’ll they’re way over the cap. No club will be that charitable and take on a salary dump for a 2nd round pick. They dug their hole.

They have 6 and 13 both of which will be pushed back. 13 may be enticing for some clubs?

Perhaps something like our second for 13 and a salary dump. We are losing our second anyway. That would give us 2 top 15 picks plus McCabe

 

[HairyO]

We’ll they’re way over the cap. No club will be that charitable and take on a salary dump for a 2nd round pick. They dug their hole.

They have 6 and 13 both of which will be pushed back. 13 may be enticing for some clubs?

They always are over yet only ever offload who they want.

 

[FB19]

Perhaps something like our second for 13 and a salary dump. We are losing our second anyway. That would give us 2 top 15 picks plus McCabe

29 is the pick that gives us the chance with our f1 to get suns pick 4. Happy to get 13 but need a different offset.

 

[user33]

29 is the pick that gives us the chance with our f1 to get suns pick 4. Happy to get 13 but need a different offset.

Yeah agreed there, it has better use but may be a plan b or c to move up before the McCabe bid

 

[Gene Simmons]

Unless we got Mackay for unders (which won't be the case) I am not a fan. He is slow and has the turning circle of a ship (A defensive version of Ty Vickery).. I'd rather persist with developing Blanck.

Happy to be proven wrong.

 

[peetoo]

With Blanck frost Weddle DGB even Jeka or kosi seems to be plenty of cover down back

For Lewis, not so much

 

[The Spirit of Cricket]

With Blanck frost Weddle DGB even Jeka or kosi seems to be plenty of cover down back

For Lewis, not so much

mate when you list them out like that it's pretty clear to me we have the worst KPD stocks in the comp.

KPF ain't much better but Lewis alone probably puts us above a team like Melbourne lol

 

[The Kipster]

Interested to see if we enquire about Waterman and use Brocky as a player who can be part of that trade

Oh gawd no, we would be going backwards.

 

[The Kipster]

Waterman for Brocky actually makes alot of sense.

You have no idea how crap Waterman is, he didn't get consistent game time at the Chooks for nothing, he could even carve up the Eagles seconds...CRAB

 

[wahawk]

Perhaps something like our second for 13 and a salary dump. We are losing our second anyway. That would give us 2 top 15 picks plus McCabe

I’m not disagreeing with your suggestion but we do still need picks to match for McCabe

 

[Roger Rogerson]

Oh gawd no, we would be going backwards.

Yep he's bog average and that's being kind.

 

[SSSSSS]

I like how we're trying to replace Kosi with players who are crapper than Kosi.

 

[Judd2Sewell]

With Blanck frost Weddle DGB even Jeka or kosi seems to be plenty of cover down back

For Lewis, not so much

Frost is not good enough and is old. DGB and Jeka have proven nothing to date and the latter will likely be delisted. Kosi may be moved on and hasn't played in defence for years, though having said that I wouldn't mind seeing it happen. Weddle isn't a KPD.

Blanck, the only player we could consider a likely long-term KPD is only 20 games into his career and was dropped at points this season.

We most certainly need another KPD.

 

[The Golden Glenferrie]

You have no idea how crap Waterman is, he didn't get consistent game time at the Chooks for nothing, he could even carve up the Eagles seconds...CRAB

I'd rather take Petrevski-Seton as a DFA and give them Brockman vs Waterman

 

[Platten44]

mate when you list them out like that it's pretty clear to me we have the worst KPD stocks in the comp.

KPF ain't much better but Lewis alone probably puts us above a team like Melbourne lol

North say hi

 

[Topiary]

North say hi

I am not concerned about North. Get it through your head, the HFC key defensive stocks are poor, very poor before we even talk about a KPF to support an injury prone Lewis.

Those who say we can just draft our way out of this are living in la la land.
It takes time, usually 2-3 years for for KPP’s to develop enough.

 

[Dewnior]

You have no idea how crap Waterman is, he didn't get consistent game time at the Chooks for nothing, he could even carve up the Eagles seconds...CRAB

You'd think Mitch would have a pretty good idea if Waterman is any good

 

[Dewnior]

I'd rather take Petrevski-Seton as a DFA and give them Brockman vs Waterman

 

[TylerDurden]

 

[WWSD]

We need a key forward more so than a key defender. Missing out on Riccardi hurts, as he would’ve been perfect. Ryan & Ramsden aren’t really the players that will dominate as key forwards.

I really hope MM has some sort of plan B. We’ve already seen the impact Lewis has on this team. When he gets injured the whole structure goes out the window.

If we can somehow acquire an additional first round pick in this years draft, I would have no hesitation in selecting a key forward.

 

[Platten44]

I am not concerned about North. Get it through your head, the HFC key defensive stocks are poor, very poor before we even talk about a KPF to support an injury prone Lewis.

Those who say we can just draft our way out of this are living in la la land.
It takes time, usually 2-3 years for for KPP’s to develop enough.

So we need to draft some as you can’t force players to join us and you can’t overpay for list cloggers.
If fully fit our backline as a whole is far from the worst.

 

[CaptainWorpedo]

I am not concerned about North. Get it through your head, the HFC key defensive stocks are poor, very poor before we even talk about a KPF to support an injury prone Lewis.

Those who say we can just draft our way out of this are living in la la land.
It takes time, usually 2-3 years for for KPP’s to develop enough.

An sometimes longer

 

[triple treat]

You have no idea how crap Waterman is, he didn't get consistent game time at the Chooks for nothing, he could even carve up the Eagles seconds...CRAB

I must be completely out of whack with my talent meter, cause I think Waterman is a decent 3 rd tall option in a fwd line! I mean he’s never gonna be a Gunston but IMO he’s a very handy (tricky to match up on) 3rd tall.