Ultimate Glory 2023 Trade speculation and Shinbeggars discussion

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The worst several teams over the last four seasons below. Maybe we should ask for some handouts too - access to 2J and an end of first round pick for some contrived reason would do nicely.

Essendon
13th - 26 - 79.2%
8th - 44 - 109.1%
15th - 28 - 83.2%
11th - 44 - 89.7%

Crows
18th - 12 - 64.4%
15th - 28 - 82%
14th - 32 - 86.7%
10th - 44 - 116.8%

GCS
14th - 22 - 90.6%
16th - 28 - 76.8%
12th - 40 - 102.8%
15th - 36 - 91.7%

Hawks
15th - 20 - 84.1%
14th - 32 - 85.2%
13th - 32 - 89.8%
16th - 28 - 80.2%

WCE
5th - 48 - 117%
9th - 40 - 93.2%
17th - 8 - 59.8%
18th - 12 - 53%

North
17th - 12 - 71.2%
18th - 18 - 70.3%
18th - 8 - 55.8%
17th - 12 - 71.5%
 
North want 3 and 11 from the AFL. They will not bid on the Gold Coast academy players if GC trade them 4 for 11 and Ports first.

North end up with 2,3 and 5.
Does it really affect us though? The McKay pick has been likely for a while. We don’t have much to offer suns other then our F1 which doesn’t sound on table. Doesn’t stop us from bidding on Walter and read with our pick.

Think we’ve known for a long time the the afl won’t give us a chop out.

Edit: only impact could north trying to play games on getting their preferred three. Ie pick curtain and duursma being confident we pick Watson so they get Colby as well.
 
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Chol looking pretty good today against Box Hill.

What exactly is the reason he is so poorly regarded in AFL circles?

A ruck/forward who can move like he does and has kicked 44 goals in a season sounds very good on paper.

I think from memory there was talk about his attitude to training / behaviour issues but he sure looks an interesting option.
 
Chol looking pretty good today against Box Hill.

What exactly is the reason he is so poorly regarded in AFL circles?

A ruck/forward who can move like he does and has kicked 44 goals in a season sounds very good on paper.

I think from memory there was talk about his attitude to training / behaviour issues but he sure looks an interesting option.
I wanted us to grab him the year he went to GOLD COAST.

Do want.
 

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Nothing surer then north being a middle of the road rebuild side and players walking in two years, I say give them more picks
 
If I was a player manager and I was dealing with Essendon, I would come to Hawthorn and promise the world then report back to Dodoro to get the deal done on better terms lol, I jest, but it seems we have lost out on a bunch of free agents and trade targets, maybe when we get closer to being a finals team, we can land a couple? good thing sleepy Mark is a good draft recruiter.
 
Surely all the other clubs express their concerns to the AFL. North will be a top 4 side in 3-4 years the way they’re building.
The problem isn’t north building to anything. It’s if them burning a ton of talent alongside what suns and giants have done bringing the level of the comp down. Alongside Tassie coming it’s going to weaken the league by a big amount.
 
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