Ultimate Glory 2023 Trade speculation and Shinbeggars discussion

[HawksILove]

I hate waiting for the decision, come on

 

[The Golden Glenferrie]

we did this crap with Shiel, Bowes and now McKay. If anything the ITKs on here being so confident makes me less confident with most their track records. I’ll believe it when I see it

Well everything is fluid. Would not be the first time a late change was made!

 

[Thorgils]

Geez, I don’t check BF in the morning and I’m 23 pages behind? Any chance of a summary? Good news?

 

[Mr Lizard]

 

[Dewnior]

Geez, I don’t check BF in the morning and I’m 23 pages behind? Any chance of a summary? Good news?

We had McKay
Then we lost him
Then we had him again...

 

[Thorgils]

So essentially no change….

 

[derp de derp]

Well everything is fluid. Would not be the first time a late change was made!

 

[SodaPop]

Can we have a sticky on top of each page that confirms:

1. Having McKay will release Sicily to roam around the backline.
2. He's a free hit so won't cost us draft picks.
3. We have a war-chest so paying overs is a no brainer.
4. Again, He will free Sicily in the backline.

 

[Platten44]

The only one we were ever close to was Coniglio, and unfortunately that took a last minute dodgy deal to cause it to fall through. The other two we were not close, especially Lynch.

Take that one to the bank.

Yep. Lynch had a verbal agreement to join the Tigers two years out. It’s why his sister was one of the highest paid players for woman’s football before Lynch even joined.

 

[Lickmesocks]

We had McKay
Then we lost him
Then we had him again...

How can “we have him” when he is running around doing medicals and interviews with other clubs.

“Confident we can land him” is a whole new story.

At the end of the day he is down to two clubs and we are one of them so let’s see what plays out over the next 48 hours .

 

[hfc70]

Won’t believe McKay has chosen Hawks until Tom Browne tweets it

 

[The Golden Glenferrie]

Good news is that with such a long contract, if McCabe turns into a monster, we can just trade him!

 

[grumbleguts]

Can we have a sticky on top of each page that confirms:

1. Having McKay will release Sicily to roam around the backline.
2. He's a free hit so won't cost us draft picks.
3. We have a war-chest so paying overs is a no brainer.
4. Again, He will free Sicily in the backline.

And "I only like him because Big Terry likes him."

 

[pipcoo]

Hope is very dangerous ….
Reality only counts

 

[Platten44]

……

Won’t believe McKay has chosen Hawks until Tom Browne tweets it

when Tom Browne X’s he is going to Essendon then we have him

 

[Hawk Vision]

I really hope North match it, he walks into to PSD and we pick him up, they get no compo, we don’t pay massive overs.

 

[HomerJayS]

Hawks have always done very well out of trades with North Melbourne, something tells me Ben wont be apologizing to the leadership group in preseason even if the Pussycat Dolls are in town for the Spring Carnival

But it’s not a trade.

 

[Dewnior]

How can “we have him” when he is running around doing medicals and interviews with other clubs.

“Confident we can land him” is a whole new story.

At the end of the day he is down to two clubs and we are one of them so let’s see what plays out over the next 48 hours .

LMR, it was written tongue in cheek

 

[FB19]

Why do all the journos keep saying the suns will trade their pick for later picks this year that give them slightly more points? I know they did the bowes trade but surely they aren’t that dumb. Forgetting whether it is us or someone else that gets it, none of them seem to understand anything about trading. they seem to wait for Twomey (who knows draft but not trading) and then parrot his lines. I don’t know if there is a clear agenda or if they are just not that bright.

 

[Dewnior]

I really hope North match it, he walks into to PSD and we pick him up, they get no compo, we don’t pay massive overs.

Can't Norf just select him with pick 2 in the PSD?

They'll take the compo and run. Nothing surer

 

[FB19]

It seems certain that we will do a deal with GC for pick 4. The noise coming out is that McKercher is our preferred choice if available & if he is gone then Watson will be snapped up. Our midfield does need upgrading, other than Libba & Bont, the rest of our mids are outside types and we need more grunt (losing Dunkley hurt us a lot). Mitchell loves Duursma so it will be interesting to see what North do with picks 2 & 3 if they can't get a deal done with WC. I expect that if WC keep pick 1 then North will take Curtin and one of Duursma or McKercher. If they somehow get gifted Sanders as well (which I hope they don't) it would be the biggest steal ever.

Journos are saying that but they don’t know anything about trading and the draft they are Twomey parrots. Why would the suns trade their pick for slightly more points that they will get themselves via player trades? Their pick will go to the best offer of future pick(s) unless they remain as stupid as they were last year with the Bowes trade. McKercher would be ideal for you but you are relying on the kindness (and incompetence) of strangers…

 

[Roby]

He'll look much better with Sicily, Scrimshaw and Hardwick next to him.

Or he won't.

Sicily may still end up taking the same intercept marks. That may take away intercept marks away from McKay, which is the ONLY thing he does well.

What's McKay going to do if Sicily takes an intercept mark? He can't run off as an attacking defender.

I've watched a lot of North games the last couple of years and despite his massive size he gets beaten in one on ones too easily, in the air or on the ground, and gives away silly free kicks, like Frost does.

He shows little leadership in the backline and just worries about himself. He rarely comes in too cover for others. He generally stands in the zone and waits to get an intercept mark. When he has the ball he takes an eternity to get rid of it, and unlike Frost, he provides no attack. He waits for someone to be free and then does a short dinky kick, by that time the opposition defence has set and even Sicily will struggle to pick a pass by then. Why do you think North have been so shit?

 

[Hawk Vision]

Can't Norf just select him with pick 2 in the PSD?

They'll take the compo and run. Nothing surer

He could put a price on himself front ended + doubt they want a player who wants out. Risk though agree. If we lose a player like Dursma over this it would suck

 

[Judd2Sewell]

I really hope North match it, he walks into to PSD and we pick him up, they get no compo, we don’t pay massive overs.

How would that work, they have the pick before us and could just take him, right?

 

[badboybobba]

Or he won't.

Sicily may still end up taking the same intercept marks. That may take away intercept marks away from McKay, which is the ONLY thing he does well.

What's McKay going to do if Sicily takes an intercept mark? He can't run off as an attacking defender.

I've watched a lot of North games the last couple of years and despite his massive size he gets beaten in one on ones too easily, in the air or on the ground, and gives away silly free kicks, like Frost does.

He shows little leadership in the backline and just worries about himself. He rarely comes in to cover for others. He generally stands in the zone and waits to get an intercept mark. When he has the ball he takes an eternity to get rid of it, and unlike Frost, he provides no attack. He waits for someone to be free and then does a short dinky kick, by that time the opposition defence has set and even Sicily will struggle to pick a pass by then. Why do you think North have been so s**t?

I’ve always wondered why North are so s**t but mystery solved, it’s because Ben Mackay takes intercept marks