Ultimate Glory 2023 Trade speculation and Shinbeggars discussion

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Pass. $tains in dire need of a key defender and Gould not getting games. Do the math.

You clearly haven’t heard of second chances and / or another coach getting the best out of a player.

Do the maths! There would be no Ablett SNR if there wasn’t a second change!

A given our position and lack of assistance we have to roll the dice !
 

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Pretty sure we picked up Steve Gilham via port as a delisted player all those years ago! Really looking for the unpopular player who has the conditioning, but hasn’t taken there chance yet.

Could Sydney’s young fella be the man? There’s talk of Gould being delisted? Only 192 but plays like key defender and could assist Blanck. A lot of ifs, but just an example

Lol fatty Gould has zero tank. It's the one reason why DGB isn't getting consistent game time and Gould makes DGB look like Kipchoge.
 
If we can't land GC pick 4 I would be looking at their package of picks this year.

North potentially offering pick 11 + 14 and Dogs 10 and 17. Add Chol into the mix and I'd be happy to give up our future 1st and change for that.

A haul of Watson/Mckercher/Zane plus somebody like a Wilson/Murphy/Caddy/O'Sullivan and a Delean/Collard/Leake would be a good haul.

Bank on some improvement from within and load up on some more talent in the forward half and KPP.
 
Lol fatty Gould has zero tank. It's the one reason why DGB isn't getting consistent game time and Gould makes DGB look like Kipchoge.
Lol! Looked like he lost a lot of weight, but then again as we know being skinny does not prove fitness ( as per DGB)
 
If we can't land GC pick 4 I would be looking at their package of picks this year.

North potentially offering pick 11 + 14 and Dogs 10 and 17. Add Chol into the mix and I'd be happy to give up our future 1st and change for that.

A haul of Watson/Mckercher/Zane plus somebody like a Wilson/Murphy/Caddy/O'Sullivan and a Delean/Collard/Leake would be a good haul.

Bank on some improvement from within and load up on some more talent in the forward half and KPP.
for both 10+17 or 11+14 ( before compo picks & bids) or just one of them.

Can't see Hawks doing f1 for just one of them.. or even both. Given how players don't want to come to the club, I would say they think we are going to be bottom 2 or even the spoon.

We may be confident but we need to highlight our spoon potential given the McKay news to increase the value of our F1. Clubs who want midfield talent will value our F1 highly.

I feel like we should shop around players of value for these pick 10 or 11 instead.
 
You clearly haven’t heard of second chances and / or another coach getting the best out of a player.

Do the maths! There would be no Ablett SNR if there wasn’t a second change!

A given our position and lack of assistance we have to roll the dice !
Nowhere near the same situation.
 

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Nowhere near the same situation.
Exactly the same, no second chance no Ablett!

No second chance no 08 premiership for Guerra, Gilham and Dew.

Everyone laughed when Clarko got dew.

My point is low cost, low risk, if we can see something in a player.

We need to look at unpopular players for play your role players.

Other wise we pay through the nose for the like Chol and f/a McKay.
 
Gould took the piss at u18 level and held his own at SANFL level but that’s his ceiling as he was already fully developed. Possibly gone backwards since then.

Also an arrogant frog. Don’t want him at Hawthorn.
 
Chol already impacting here.
I know he’s too old and not quite good enough to move the needle for us, but I like Burgess as a 2nd or 3rd tall too. Been kicking goals for years and is too good for VFL level. Can’t see us going for him but could do a lot worse as a place holder until we get better options and will probably be delisted too.
 
Brisbane have a lot of good talent and key position players. Surely we ask the question for Gardiner and some.
Gunston struggling to get a game - could be handy?
Bring TOB and Gunners home
 
I have to agree with this. It is why the HFC will find it harder and harder to climb up the ladder. Sorry for being melodramatic but the AFL is NOT going to give us anything while we are what we are, not that I disagree with our approach.

My view, it will take forever if we rely on the Draft alone or cannot attract players. Don’t worry WaHawk and others I am not about to start the subject all over again ad I am not mentally unwell, but in my view, that is the issue and from what I can tell, so it is also an issue with Sam and the HFC.

We will truck on, we will try many other players, I do realise it will take time but I am the first to concede patience is not my virtue.

You also talk kinda funny.
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Why do you think posts are laughable or ridiculous that are not your opinion and you don’t agree with. It’s posters opinion it’s not your one but that’s fine that’s what a forum is all about if everyone had the same opinions it would be a very boring forum.
So what you’re trying to say is that everyone has their own opinion, but I shouldn’t? 😂
 
Is he seriously only 27? Had assumed he wasn't getting a game as he was the wrong side of 30. Great shout!
29 next year and below average on most stats. If we target a key position player from the Lions it should be Fullarton.
 
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