Ultimate Glory 2023 Trade speculation and Shinbeggars discussion

[FB19]

We're gonna win this trade-period, aren't we?!!

D+

 

[Lickmesocks]

Only for another week-and-a-half, isn't it?

Pretty sure only picks can be traded during the draft. Any trades involving player swaps will need to be done during the Trade Period.

Yep you are right.

Pick swaps can be done on the night.

Sides accumulating picks now will use them on the night for live trading so if players are included we only need to manage that noise for the next 2 weeks .

 

[Jai Newcombes Quads]

Last time we had a Smith running on the wing we won a 3peat

 

[daniel23]

Outside of mckercher , Reid and potentially some kpd later in the first round I'm less enthusiastic about this draft then the last 2 years. If Curtin is available at 4 and westcoast come to us with there f1 + extras are we taking it?. It Would give us so many more options at the trade table next year for Smith and potential kpf.

 

[peetoo]

I just see b smith as Geelong bound somehow

 

[peetoo]

Just speculative, any Victorian eagles players with strong links to Sammy maybe come over as steak knives?


Maybe older than our target demographic, but with a view of going int coaching or something?

 

[Topiary]

He doesnt know , generalising as usual so it doesn't seem he's wrong If it doesn't work out.

Well said Daniel. This is a public forum you know and I am not going to shit on my contacts. Not for you or anyone else.

 

[Mitchell Madness]

AFL Draft: Prized prospect suffers soft-tissue setback on eve of Combine

The versatile talent is expected to go within the top five picks at this year's draft.

www.zerohanger.com

Does the fact that Curtin has a hammy injury so close to combine mean its more likely North overlook him & Wet Toast are more willing to part with Pick 1 as Curtin is more likely being available at Pick 3 (4)

Clarko loved recruiting injured players on "potential" so it probably means Curtin goes at 2

 

[The hands of stone]

Is it worth trying for a Bowes type deal with gws and taking on Haynes’s full contract and trying to get one of their first round picks? (Ideally Richmond’s that they traded for hopper last year, so pick 6-7)

Frees them up cash-wise, we get another top pick, and whilst it’s a cap hit, we keep being told we have lots of money available. We could either shuffle the exiting contracts to fit it in, or do a Geelong and offer him a second year with a small increase and smooth it over a couple of years.

Whilst we don’t need another half back, we could then trade out one of the plethora we have, say Scrimshaw, for a second round or future second round, and improve our draft hand for next year.
Now, I don’t necessarily want to lose Scrimshaw, but it seems like he’s not a guaranteed first 22 player

We were trying and had made headway but I think the salary dump deal has ground to a halt .
Sounds like we have other priorities at the moment .

 

[The hands of stone]

I just see b smith as Geelong bound somehow

Doubt it . They got told he wasn't interested.

They are shopping their pick for an experienced mid though

 

[triple treat]

Doubt it . They got told he wasn't interested.

They are shopping their pick for an experienced mid though

Worpel??

 

[Snoref]

Would pick 3, F1, brockman and DGB for pick 1 and f2 work?

 

[eldorado]

So Brocky wants to get back to WA for family reasons.

Is Freo also a realistic destination?

One would hope so.

Wanting to go home for his young family is a position I think we can all respect.

Only wanting WC, to play with Liam Ryan...I would think less so

 

[Braidz]

Worpel??

The ink has barely dried on his contract extension.

 

[KermitJagger]

WCE should either take Curtin at 1 or forget about him. I cannot see North passing on him given they are in desperate need of KPs, although they may be gun-shy after JHF (they sold him for a fair profit). North have a wealth of talent in the midfield already, so Curtin and Duursma would make sense for them.

If WCE are willing to give up on Curtin, then trading out of pick 1 would give them a greater influx of talent they so desperately need. Harley Reid is only 1 player. They need more.

Mind you, they could swap pick 1 for pick 2 plus another first rounder to ensure north get reid and WCE get Curtin.

North didn't get a profit on JHF. They started with Pick 1 in the draft, JHF (Pick 1 from the previous year) and ended with 0 Pick 1s.

 

[LunchboxLegend]

Would pick 3, F1, brockman and DGB for pick 1 and f2 work?

For us, yes. For WCE, not even close.

You don’t trade rights to a generational talent for Pick 3, a Future pick that could be as high as 10, a guy you can get for free in PSD, and a former first round pick who, to this point, hasn’t lived up to expectorations.

Remove the F2 and it’s still not enough.

 

[TazHawk15]

Put me on the record as saying “As a Hawthorn F.C member I am not happy with the sound of the price we would have to pay for Reid”

Also if we do get him, I reserve the right to be excited.

 

[Iceman!]

So Brocky wants to get back to WA for family reasons.

Is Freo also a realistic destination?

Nah, he will 100% be an Eagle. The only question mark is over what he goes for.

 

[peetoo]

The thing Brocky does is keep the lines open between hawks and eagles, if that’s even needed

Thinking out loud, where’s the eagles tpp at?

 

[hawkinoz]

DGB
Brockman
Newcombe
Day
Pick 3
Future 1st
Future 2nd

Pick 1 and future 4th coming back

Pay THE price

 

[CoagVex]

Is Cumberland available?

Kossie for Cumberland and swaps might do.

Good left peg, not sure why he fell out of favour. If it's lack of application, he and Mabs can go at it this peseason

 

[Sixpence]

North took a loss on JHF. Were offered way more a year prior.

You can't take a loss on what you never had. Doesn't matter what they were offered, the profit comes from what they got compared to what they paid.

North didn't get a profit on JHF. They started with Pick 1 in the draft, JHF (Pick 1 from the previous year) and ended with 0 Pick 1s.

Irrelevant stat. Wardlaw would have been pick 1 without the pick swapping and Sheezel won the Rising Star, their BnF and looked better than a fair few previous pick 1s. Those two plus the extra they got means they made a profit.

 

[Bee Dee 63]

Put me on the record as saying “as a Hawthorn F.C member I am not happy with the sound of the price we would have to pay for Reid”

Also if we do get him, I reserve the right to be excited.

I would be both surprised and disappointed if we offered anything more than 3, f1 and Brockman.

 

[peetoo]

You can't take a loss on what you never had. Doesn't matter what they were offered, the profit comes from what they got compared to what they paid.

Irrelevant stat. Wardlaw would have been pick 1 without the pick swapping and Sheezel won the Rising Star, their BnF and looked better than a fair few previous pick 1s. Those two plus the extra they got means they made a profit.

They are threepeat november premiers as Clarko once said

 

[Sturty]