Analysis 2024 AFL Draft General Discussion

[Jen2310]

Ah cool, thanks Jen. I saw a tweet about it today and assumed that the news was sharing something current.

They tend to rehash old stuff to make them appear new for clicks lol

 

[Johnny Bananas]

I keep hearing Taj Hotton would be a top 5 pick if not for injury. Doesn't that mean a club should go after him in the top 10 unless they believe his body is made of Swiss cheese? Particularly clubs with multiple picks like Melbourne and Richmond. Yet I keep seeing him fall to GWS in phantom drafts.

 

[Dr Tigris]

I keep hearing Taj Hotton would be a top 5 pick if not for injury. Doesn't that mean a club should go after him in the top 10 unless they believe his body is made of Swiss cheese? Particularly clubs with multiple picks like Melbourne and Richmond. Yet I keep seeing him fall to GWS in phantom drafts.

Super fast talented player - i.e. Shai Bolton. But has been injured and hasn't proved himself is what I've heard. I'd like us to take a risk on him. Seems a good shot to be valuable. But then we are building a list almost from scratch, and maybe hsi type isn't such a priority. he's one I'm really wanting to see where he will end up.

 

[Johnny Bananas]

Super fast talented player - i.e. Shai Bolton. But has been injured and hasn't proved himself is what I've heard. I'd like us to take a risk on him. Seems a good shot to be valuable. But then we are building a list almost from scratch, and maybe hsi type isn't such a priority. he's one I'm really wanting to see where he will end up.

Good talent is always a priority though. Even if a player is more of a cherry on top rather than a piece of the actual cake, I think teams would rather have a good cherry than a mediocre piece of cake..

 

[RUNVS]

I must admit this is the first time in years I have not really followed this draft as I knew Sydney would be getting some pretty bad picks late in the first round and it wasn't worth following too closely since at that point it would be impossible to predict who Beatson was going to call with picks 23 and 25 or something like that.

In saying that though, to get a bit informed, when is Twomey and Kevin Sheehan doing their mock draft they do every year?

 

[pK75]

I must admit this is the first time in years I have not really followed this draft as I knew Sydney would be getting some pretty bad picks late in the first round and it wasn't worth following too closely since at that point it would be impossible to predict who Beatson was going to call with picks 23 and 25 or something like that.

In saying that though, to get a bit informed, when is Twomey and Kevin Sheehan doing their mock draft they do every year?

Clearly you haven’t been keeping up, this is the super draft and the next Judd or Hodge will still be available at pick 27 (1st pick of the second round) and bottom 6 teams will be falling over themselves to offer a F1 to get back into this years draft.
Sydney’s picks look like being Buddy & Parker replacements.

 

[RUNVS]

Clearly you haven’t been keeping up, this is the super draft and the next Judd or Hodge will still be available at pick 27 (1st pick of the second round) and bottom 6 teams will be falling over themselves to offer a F1 to get back into this years draft.
Sydney’s picks look like being Buddy & Parker replacements.

Buddy and Lockett I am thinking. I think their replacements would work well together in the forward line.

I have heard that while there is not a lot of super top end talent in the Harley Reid mold, the draft does go deep, so the player you get at 5 isn't that much better than the player you get at 20. The drop off isn't as high as most drafts.

 

[RUNVS]

Another important question. How early in the draft will bigfooty completely crash?

 

[year of the cat]

Another important question. How early in the draft will bigfooty completely crash?

Well it’s bigger than the Paul v Tyson fight so if it’s anything like Netflix today then before the first pick is read out..

 

[Dr Tigris]

Good talent is always a priority though. Even if a player is more of a cherry on top rather than a piece of the actual cake, I think teams would rather have a good cherry than a mediocre piece of cake..

Now that is a quotable quote "would rather have a good cherry than a mediocre piece of cake". In our case I reckon you are right. But sometimes the decent role player is worth a lot to the list. Right now we need pieces to build around, so go talent.

 

[Futbolista]

I did enjoy how these guys did a live mock draft on the fly. Very slick and some interesting picks. Well done Pom and crew!

 

[Mutineer]

I understand what you are saying, but that has nothing to do with my reply to the OP.

He was saying something to the effect, that the Northern clubs do sfa for providing a pathway for kids, and their development.

I was saying that is not correct.

This is the system the AFL put in to place, we’re just playing by its rules.

Strange how the Ashcroft's and Marshall have done most of their development playing in the CTL for the Dragons, Vic's APS system and Vic Metro, I get it that the Ashcroft's are F/S but Marshall sure isn't.

 

[Jack Richards]

Wonder how concerning Trainor and his brain injuries and concussions are for clubs who draft him.

 

[dinnaz]

Should draftees be honest in interviews or not?

If a kid is dead keen to remain in his home state, for whatever reason, would you rather he be up front about it, or lie in the interview, and then request to be traded back home as his initial contract is up?

Clubs have interviews for a reason - to flag potential issues. Sure, ideally all kids would be fine moving interstate... but IRL some of them just wont be.

Dominos.
For the dogs specifically:
You could go from getting Naughton to selecting from Lochie O'Brien, Aiden Bonar, Jarrod Brander, Matthew Ling.

Imagine if Bontempelli didn't want to stay in vic so you were fored to bypass him.

You can't take players from other states either for the same reason, and you want a midfielder. So in the top 20 you only have 3 options. Reach for flanker type in Salem/Jones or take Freeman at #4.

TAS	Kade Kolodjashnij
SA	Matthew Scharenberg
SA	James Aish
Father Son	Luke McDonald F
	Christian Salem
	Nathan Freeman

WA	Dominic Sheed
Fwd	Ben Lennon
WA	Patrick Cripps
WA	Cameron McCarthy
	Zak Jones
Fwd	Darcy Lang
Tall	Michael Apeness
SA	Luke Dunstan
WA	Blake Acres

 

[Lingsface]

2024 FAN-TOM draft

tradablebits.com

 

[Lingsface]

I think this is the most exciting unpredictable draft since I can remember!
So many potential top 15 picks of clubs decide to go certain directions.

 

[Dudoro]

Does anyone feel this draft hasn’t had much hype? Barely any media coverage

 

[Cubs2Lions]

Feels like it a bit but maybe it's because no one knows who the clear number 1 is compared to past editions and it's quite an even draft from the Top 20 as well:

Did have an educated guess of what the Top 40 would be providing draft picks don't get traded from now on but didn't know where to post it exactly so hopefully this is the right place to do so:

Pick 1 - Sam Lalor (Richmond)
Pick 2 - Alix Taura (North Melbourne)
Pick 3 - Levi Ashcroft (Brisbane)*
Pick 4 - Finn O’Sullivan (Carlton)
Pick 5 - Jagga Smith (Adelaide)
Pick 6 - Harvey Langford (Melbourne)
Pick 7 - Sid Draper (Richmond)
Pick 8 - Leo Lombard (Gold Coast)^
Pick 9 - Issac Kako (Essendon)^
Pick 10 - Murphy Reid (St. Kilda)
Pick 11 - Harry Armstrong (St. Kilda)
Pick 12 - Jobe Shanahan (Melbourne)
Pick 13 - Josh Smilie (Richmond)
Pick 14 - Bo Allen (Richmond)
Pick 15 - Luke Trainor (West Coast)
Pick 16 - Xavier Lindsay (Port Adelaide)
Pick 17 - Tobie Travaglia (Fremantle)
Pick 18 - Sam Marshall (Brisbane)^
Pick 19 - Taj Hotton (GWS)
Pick 20 - Ollie Hannaford (GWS)
Pick 21 - Jesse Dattoli (Footscray)
Pick 22 - Alex Dodson (Richmond)
Pick 23 - Jack Whitlock (Sydney)
Pick 24 - Jonty Faull (Richmond)
Pick 25 - Lachie Jaques (GWS)
Pick 26 - Angus Clarke (Sydney)
Pick 27 - Harrison Oliver (Richmond)
Pick 28 - Joe Berry (Richmond)
Pick 29 - Josh Dolan (Footscray)
Pick 30 - James Barrat (West Coast)
Pick 31 - Cooper Hynes (Port Adelaide)
Pick 32 - Matthew Whitlock (Fremantle)
Pick 33 - Adrian Cole (St. Kilda)^
Pick 34 - Harry O’Farrell (Hawthorn)
Pick 35 - Christian Moreas (Footscray)
Pick 36 - Ben Camporeale (Carlton)*
Pick 37 - Charlie Nicholls (Port Adelaide)
Pick 38 - Logan Smith (GWS)^
Pick 39 - Rhys Unwin (Sydney)
Pick 40 - Xavier Ivisic (Geelong)

* - Father / Son Selection
^ - NGA Selection

 

[Jeremias]

Feels like it a bit but maybe it's because no one knows who the clear number 1 is compared to past editions and it's quite an even draft from the Top 20 as well:

Did have an educated guess of what the Top 40 would be providing draft picks don't get traded from now on but didn't know where to post it exactly so hopefully this is the right place to do so:

Pick 1 - Sam Lalor (Richmond)
Pick 2 - Alix Taura (North Melbourne)
Pick 3 - Levi Ashcroft (Brisbane)*
Pick 4 - Finn O’Sullivan (Carlton)
Pick 5 - Jagga Smith (Adelaide)
Pick 6 - Harvey Langford (Melbourne)
Pick 7 - Sid Draper (Richmond)
Pick 8 - Leo Lombard (Gold Coast)^
Pick 9 - Issac Kako (Essendon)^
Pick 10 - Murphy Reid (St. Kilda)
Pick 11 - Harry Armstrong (St. Kilda)
Pick 12 - Jobe Shanahan (Melbourne)
Pick 13 - Josh Smilie (Richmond)
Pick 14 - Bo Allen (Richmond)
Pick 15 - Luke Trainor (West Coast)
Pick 16 - Xavier Lindsay (Port Adelaide)
Pick 17 - Tobie Travaglia (Fremantle)
Pick 18 - Sam Marshall (Brisbane)^
Pick 19 - Taj Hotton (GWS)
Pick 20 - Ollie Hannaford (GWS)
Pick 21 - Jesse Dattoli (Footscray)
Pick 22 - Alex Dodson (Richmond)
Pick 23 - Jack Whitlock (Sydney)
Pick 24 - Jonty Faull (Richmond)
Pick 25 - Lachie Jaques (GWS)
Pick 26 - Angus Clarke (Sydney)
Pick 27 - Harrison Oliver (Richmond)
Pick 28 - Joe Berry (Richmond)
Pick 29 - Josh Dolan (Footscray)
Pick 30 - James Barrat (West Coast)
Pick 31 - Cooper Hynes (Port Adelaide)
Pick 32 - Matthew Whitlock (Fremantle)
Pick 33 - Adrian Cole (St. Kilda)^
Pick 34 - Harry O’Farrell (Hawthorn)
Pick 35 - Christian Moreas (Footscray)
Pick 36 - Ben Camporeale (Carlton)*
Pick 37 - Charlie Nicholls (Port Adelaide)
Pick 38 - Logan Smith (GWS)^
Pick 39 - Rhys Unwin (Sydney)
Pick 40 - Xavier Ivisic (Geelong)

* - Father / Son Selection
^ - NGA Selection

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[pK75]

Feels like it a bit but maybe it's because no one knows who the clear number 1 is compared to past editions and it's quite an even draft from the Top 20 as well:

Did have an educated guess of what the Top 40 would be providing draft picks don't get traded from now on but didn't know where to post it exactly so hopefully this is the right place to do so:

Pick 1 - Sam Lalor (Richmond)
Pick 2 - Alix Taura (North Melbourne)
Pick 3 - Levi Ashcroft (Brisbane)*
Pick 4 - Finn O’Sullivan (Carlton)
Pick 5 - Jagga Smith (Adelaide)
Pick 6 - Harvey Langford (Melbourne)
Pick 7 - Sid Draper (Richmond)
Pick 8 - Leo Lombard (Gold Coast)^
Pick 9 - Issac Kako (Essendon)^
Pick 10 - Murphy Reid (St. Kilda)
Pick 11 - Harry Armstrong (St. Kilda)
Pick 12 - Jobe Shanahan (Melbourne)
Pick 13 - Josh Smilie (Richmond)
Pick 14 - Bo Allen (Richmond)
Pick 15 - Luke Trainor (West Coast)
Pick 16 - Xavier Lindsay (Port Adelaide)
Pick 17 - Tobie Travaglia (Fremantle)
Pick 18 - Sam Marshall (Brisbane)^
Pick 19 - Taj Hotton (GWS)
Pick 20 - Ollie Hannaford (GWS)
Pick 21 - Jesse Dattoli (Footscray)
Pick 22 - Alex Dodson (Richmond)
Pick 23 - Jack Whitlock (Sydney)
Pick 24 - Jonty Faull (Richmond)
Pick 25 - Lachie Jaques (GWS)
Pick 26 - Angus Clarke (Sydney)
Pick 27 - Harrison Oliver (Richmond)
Pick 28 - Joe Berry (Richmond)
Pick 29 - Josh Dolan (Footscray)
Pick 30 - James Barrat (West Coast)
Pick 31 - Cooper Hynes (Port Adelaide)
Pick 32 - Matthew Whitlock (Fremantle)
Pick 33 - Adrian Cole (St. Kilda)^
Pick 34 - Harry O’Farrell (Hawthorn)
Pick 35 - Christian Moreas (Footscray)
Pick 36 - Ben Camporeale (Carlton)*
Pick 37 - Charlie Nicholls (Port Adelaide)
Pick 38 - Logan Smith (GWS)^
Pick 39 - Rhys Unwin (Sydney)
Pick 40 - Xavier Ivisic (Geelong)

* - Father / Son Selection
^ - NGA Selection

Berry killed your cat?

 

[Cubs2Lions]

Berry killed your cat?

Not exactly, the cat killed Berry's first-round hopes instead and is running with murder as we speak

From the vision though, Berry looks like a nice small forward to me and any club (similar to Dylan Moore mold) and whoever drafts him will have an excellent player at their disposal for years to come, wouldn't be shocked if he was selected between pick 10-20.

However in recent years at the draft, usually 1-2 (or more) players that are projected to be in first round calculations by draft experts then get taken up much later in the second and third rounds and we see bolters come in the late first round instead that not many experts would have been predicted.

Don't have any examples on me at the moment given I'm multitasking but you could also mount a case for this year with Moreas as well being picked up much earlier than my pick at 35 as well as Gross not being selected at all in my Top 40, when he could be very well selected in the 15-25 range.

Who knows what will happen though and maybe I'll look like an idiot at the end of the day but it's what makes the draft so fun to predict and watch with pure interest.

 

[Blackhawk42]

Not exactly, the cat killed Berry's first-round hopes instead and is running with murder as we speak

From the vision thugh, Berry looks like a nice small forward to me and any club (similar to Dylan Moore mold) and whoever drafts him will have an excellent player at their disposal for years to come, wouldn't be shocked if he was selected between pick 10-20.

However in recent years at the draft, usually 1-2 (or more) players that are projected to be in first round calculations by draft experts then get taken up much later in the second and third rounds and we see bolters come in the late first round instead that not many experts would have been predicted.

Don't have any examples on me at the moment given I'm multitasking but you could also mount a case for this year with Moreas as well being picked up much earlier than my pick at 35 as well as Gross not being selected at all in my Top 40, when he could be very well selected in the 15-25 range.

Who knows what will happen though and maybe I'll look like an idiot at the end of the day but it's what makes the draft so fun to predict and watch with pure interest.

Zac Taylor comes to mind.

Slipped into the 40's when most phantoms had him going well inside 30.

Looks at home at AFL level now he's finally been given am opportunity too.

 

[Cubs2Lions]

Zac Taylor comes to mind.

Slipped into the 40's when most phantoms had him going well inside 30.

Looks at home at AFL level now he's finally been given am opportunity too.

Archie Roberts Draft Profile

Archie Roberts is an aggressive rebounder out of the back half with penetrative kicking and a strong speed-endurance mix.

central.rookieme.com

While the jury is out on if he'll be a good long-term player for Essendon but Archie Roberts was one from last year as well that I can remember clearly who was predicted to be selected in the 15-25 range but then wasn't picked until pick 54.

 

[weltschmerz]

Feels like it a bit but maybe it's because no one knows who the clear number 1 is compared to past editions and it's quite an even draft from the Top 20 as well:

Did have an educated guess of what the Top 40 would be providing draft picks don't get traded from now on but didn't know where to post it exactly so hopefully this is the right place to do so:

Pick 1 - Sam Lalor (Richmond)
Pick 2 - Alix Taura (North Melbourne)
Pick 3 - Levi Ashcroft (Brisbane)*
Pick 4 - Finn O’Sullivan (Carlton)
Pick 5 - Jagga Smith (Adelaide)
Pick 6 - Harvey Langford (Melbourne)
Pick 7 - Sid Draper (Richmond)
Pick 8 - Leo Lombard (Gold Coast)^
Pick 9 - Issac Kako (Essendon)^
Pick 10 - Murphy Reid (St. Kilda)
Pick 11 - Harry Armstrong (St. Kilda)
Pick 12 - Jobe Shanahan (Melbourne)
Pick 13 - Josh Smilie (Richmond)
Pick 14 - Bo Allen (Richmond)
Pick 15 - Luke Trainor (West Coast)
Pick 16 - Xavier Lindsay (Port Adelaide)
Pick 17 - Tobie Travaglia (Fremantle)
Pick 18 - Sam Marshall (Brisbane)^
Pick 19 - Taj Hotton (GWS)
Pick 20 - Ollie Hannaford (GWS)
Pick 21 - Jesse Dattoli (Footscray)
Pick 22 - Alex Dodson (Richmond)
Pick 23 - Jack Whitlock (Sydney)
Pick 24 - Jonty Faull (Richmond)
Pick 25 - Lachie Jaques (GWS)
Pick 26 - Angus Clarke (Sydney)
Pick 27 - Harrison Oliver (Richmond)
Pick 28 - Joe Berry (Richmond)
Pick 29 - Josh Dolan (Footscray)
Pick 30 - James Barrat (West Coast)
Pick 31 - Cooper Hynes (Port Adelaide)
Pick 32 - Matthew Whitlock (Fremantle)
Pick 33 - Adrian Cole (St. Kilda)^
Pick 34 - Harry O’Farrell (Hawthorn)
Pick 35 - Christian Moreas (Footscray)
Pick 36 - Ben Camporeale (Carlton)*
Pick 37 - Charlie Nicholls (Port Adelaide)
Pick 38 - Logan Smith (GWS)^
Pick 39 - Rhys Unwin (Sydney)
Pick 40 - Xavier Ivisic (Geelong)

* - Father / Son Selection
^ - NGA Selection

If Berry was available and we took Datoli I would consider rioting.