Michaels
Brownlow Medallist
- Feb 4, 2006
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- Richmond
How far ahead would you put him of the others?I just love the way FOS moves. He’s the one IMO.
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How far ahead would you put him of the others?I just love the way FOS moves. He’s the one IMO.
Fans consensus, don't take much notice of the media nuffies but Cal (who's the best of them) has us taking Lalor as well.Is this Richmond fans consensus? Or more broadly?
I’m no expert but he looks like the best of the lot by a margin. Looks the most well rounded. Skills, pace, agility, marking, vision, inside-outside game, everything. Moves like a more athletic and agile version of LDU.How far ahead would you put him of the others?
I have 2 knocks on FOS - his kicking runs very hot and cold and his inside game, due to injury he hasn’t been able to stamp himself as a genuine ball winner.I’m no expert but he looks like the best of the lot by a margin. Looks the most well rounded. Skills, pace, agility, marking, vision, inside-outside game, everything. Moves like a more athletic and agile version of LDU.
My top 3 too.I have 2 knocks on FOS - his kicking runs very hot and cold and his inside game, due to injury he hasn’t been able to stamp himself as a genuine ball winner.
I think he’s more of a Butters type than a LDU, and if we’re lowering the bar maybe even more Zac Bailey with better marking?
If I had a good assessment on Langford’s speed and Lalor’s speed/endurance I’d have those both over FOS because they win the ball in tight and kick the ball better.
But it could just be injuries and lack of opportunity to play full midfield games impacting FOS. They are the clear top 3 of the open draft pool.
Do you think you take him at 1? I luv Lalor as well, but FOS looks the safer bet to be a consistent star.I see alot of Isaak Heeney in FOS
Maybe it might be because thats what i want to see
With Lalor injuries and no testing i think FOS is the more proven and know quality and has been top pick last 2 years we would have to go with FOS. But as a Richmond supporters would always have a bias to a bloke that has some Dusty like traits you would think.Do you think you take him at 1? I luv Lalor as well, but FOS looks the safer bet to be a consistent star.
I remember Dusty’s draft video, as North were slated to take him at pick 5, in the Sunday draft footy show that used to be on, for most of the year…….He always looked like the player he became. Kicking ability was insane. Probably my only knock on Lalor from the highlights. Doesn’t drill em like Dusty, ball floats a bit. Kid can play though.
Personally I don’t think Langford or Jagga could go pick 1, well definitely not Langford, Jagga with a push, but it’d be a massive call. I think there’s a gap, but each to their own. He’s a talent though.With Lalor injuries and no testing i think FOS is the more proven and know quality and has been top pick last 2 years we would have to go with FOS. But as a Richmond supporters would always have a bias to a bloke that has some Dusty like traits you would think.
But not sure the club would see it that way and there is a lot of noise around Langford & Jagga also
This is whats strange about this draft there are 4-5 players that could go 1 or 5
Agree with most of that but got to take issue with saying Smillie not physical. He definitely is.Personally I don’t think Langford or Jagga could go pick 1, well definitely not Langford, Jagga with a push, but it’d be a massive call. I think there’s a gap, but each to their own. He’s a talent though.
Most of the good players tipped to go early are either a bit on the small side or super tall but not physical, like Smillie.
Langford looks a competitor though, but his wheels, or lack of, worry me.
I’m not a believer that it’s as stacked a draft as they say either…….some great prospects, but all with caveats attached like always. Feels very even, especially in the talls. Be great if one of them looked an absolute gun or beast like a Walter or Darcy. I hope if we end up with a tall he’s super physical, unlike Larks.
I’m sure all clubs will be “wrapt our guy was still there at our pick”, of course.
The bolded is why we won't waste a top-2 pick on him and neither will anyone else.Most of the information out there for the draft has Tigers taking FOS or Lalor 1 which I get. I’m always just a little surprised at the disrespect for Jagga. I think with Taranto and Hooper in the Tigers midfield Smith could be the perfect partner. I think he has a low ceiling but high floor in terms of talent.
I agree that’s what it comes down to. Just feel for him. This season him and Ashcroft have been the most consistent.The bolded is why we won't waste a top-2 pick on him and neither will anyone else.
I wouldn't feel too bad for him. He's still going to go top-10 and get paid six figures to play footy as a 19-year-old.I agree that’s what it comes down to. Just feel for him. This season him and Ashcroft have been the most consistent.
Oh I haven’t noticed that, geez I hope he is, be pretty hard to contend with at that size and skill set.Agree with most of that but got to take issue with saying Smillie not physical. He definitely is.
I change my mind every day
Yesterday I was trade for 2=6+18....... Tauru and Faull.
Today I am take one of the big 4 with 2 and trade into 2nd round with F2 and F3.
I wonder what I will be tomorrow
Can't wait to find out !!
Yeah, that ain't happening.Today I am take one of the big 4 with 2 and trade into 2nd round with F2 and F3.
He probably could use it more than he does now, but he does enjoy the physical stuff. My knocks on him when he was talked about as pick 1 were his poor handle at lawn height and lack of overhead marking, but at 6 I love him. If we keep 6 I'll be rapt with him or Langford (or Tauru) and probably just prefer him to Langford.Oh I haven’t noticed that, geez I hope he is, be pretty hard to contend with at that size and skill set.
It’s definitely a knock on him, that he doesn’t use his size to advantage. You’d think he’d be smashing blokes in his age group. Could be a serious player if was a brute like Cripps etc.
Yeah diffently don't need to feel sorry for him it's the business. He will still go top 6 can't see Melbourne passing on him if he slipsI agree that’s what it comes down to. Just feel for him. This season him and Ashcroft have been the most consistent.
He can’t really win in that respect though because if he was doing that you can guarantee that there’d be stacks of posts in here about how he’s a man child who uses his size to bully others that he won’t be able to do in the AFLOh I haven’t noticed that, geez I hope he is, be pretty hard to contend with at that size and skill set.
It’s definitely a knock on him, that he doesn’t use his size to advantage. You’d think he’d be smashing blokes in his age group. Could be a serious player if was a brute like Cripps etc.
I am waiting for the RMC rankings for October to update the consensus rankings. I have The Age, AFL and ESPN for October. Can't get past the paywall to view the Heraldsun's top 60 for October. If anyone can post that will be much appreciated.Does anyone have an updated ranking sheet of the draft. The below one is few months old and seems out of date based on Cal's latest draft rankings where Barrat has jumped 30 spots up which means lots of club are linked to him.
Hopefully a bit more longer list, top 60? since the draft seems deep.
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Interesting that a large portion of the top rated mids are on the shorter side, FOS, Smith, Draper, Reid, Lombard, Ashcroft.Does anyone have an updated ranking sheet of the draft. The below one is few months old and seems out of date based on Cal's latest draft rankings where Barrat has jumped 30 spots up which means lots of club are linked to him.
Hopefully a bit more longer list, top 60? since the draft seems deep.
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