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blaisee said:
The strategy of going into the draft with Pick 2 and 64 was ridiculous

Further compounded by the fact that Pick 2 was on the market for weeks, and eventually spent for a mid

Further compounded by the real need and desperation for a tall, confirmed through trading what bookies currently see as a top 4 pick in 2025 for Pick 27 in 2024, and second round pick in 2025

This is the stuff that in the real world, people get sacked for

But hey Nth fans can hope on Whitlock being the next Wayne Carey so this all makes sense

It was predictable weeks away, they put themselves in a corner, and made a massive mess, and then paid a huge price to try and fix it
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So your strategy is sell pick 2 for rubbish, yeah no. You take the best talent, who should they have taken? Literally took the guy rated 1/2 on everyones board. The mistake may have been the overs they paid for Daniel but they got a solid contributor off HB hardly a shocker. They get back a pick in the 28-32 range next year via Richmond, meaning they have two picks in this range and they can trade or draft guys there.

North will improve too, bookies area laugh they are there to make money that's it. Should be out of the bottom 4, if they aren't sack the lot of the coaches and admin. It was time to make a move and this was perfect, they have picked what could be either the forward to help Larkey OR the defender, he can play either end
 
Is Richmond taking a massive amount of picks into the draft "winning trade week" or "winning the draft"... I feel like the Tigers fans want to get credit twice.

I'm giving them the trade week award. The draft award, as always, is too soon to tell.
 

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burge13 said:
It's all fake, they just help each other out so everyone gets who they want.
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I mean, isn't that the professional thing to do?

Is the goal for the draft for every club to work together within the systems in place to achieve as many of their list goals as possible?

Or is it to be a spiteful Dodoro type who sacrifices mutually beneficial cooperation in favour of zero-sum tactics and giving your more emotionally-driven fans on forums the short-term sugar rush of "smiting your enemies"?

I'll take the former thanks.

I suspect the list management staff at clubs probably piss themselves laughing at the way some fans try to interpret and evaluate every aspect of running a football club through the lens of gladiatorial bloodsport. They look genuinely embarrased every trade period having to give the illusion of things going "down to the wire". It's WWE stuff.
 
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Hollow Knight said:
I mean, isn't that the professional thing to do?

Is the goal for the draft for every club to work together within the systems in place to achieve as many of their list goals as possible?

Or is it to be a massive spiteful Dodoro who sacrifices mutually beneficial cooperation in favour of zero-sum tactics and giving your more emotionally-driven fans on forums the short-term sugar rush of "smiting your enemies"?

I'll take the former thanks.
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No one bidding on the consensus best player in the draft until #5 is madness
 
LukeParkerno1 said:
So your strategy is sell pick 2 for rubbish, yeah no. You take the best talent, who should they have taken? Literally took the guy rated 1/2 on everyones board. The mistake may have been the overs they paid for Daniel but they got a solid contributor off HB hardly a shocker. They get back a pick in the 28-32 range next year via Richmond, meaning they have two picks in this range and they can trade or draft guys there.

North will improve too, bookies area laugh they are there to make money that's it. Should be out of the bottom 4, if they aren't sack the lot of the coaches and admin. It was time to make a move and this was perfect, they have picked what could be either the forward to help Larkey OR the defender, he can play either end
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you talk gibberish
 
burge13 said:
No one bidding on the consensus best player in the draft until #5 is madness
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What would Occam's razor suggest?

  • That football clubs have hired people who are literally insane to manage their list management?
  • These professional people made rational and strategic decisions based on their short and long term goals?

No one bidding on Ashcroft might mean that the current system and rules are "madness"... but the list managers are bound by and operate within the rules as they are. Clearly they felt it was beneficial to not bid in that context.
 
LukeParkerno1 said:
They are backing themselves to rise a bit, if they finish 3rd last the whole joint should be fired on the spot. They are surely 14th at worst so say pick 6 next year for 27 this year and lets say pick 30 (tigers second)

It's hardly a shocker but there is a risk.
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5th-last this year (Melbourne) won 11 games and had a percentage of 98. 4th last (Adelaide) won 8.5 games and had a % of 99.

North this year won 3 games and had a percentage of 63.

They could improve SIGNIFICANTLY and still finish 3rd-last next year. Especially playing home games in WA.

So they’ve likely traded pick 3 or 4 in the open draft for picks 27 and 25ish.
 
aussierulesrules said:
5th-last this year (Melbourne) won 11 games and had a percentage of 98. 4th last (Adelaide) won 8.5 games and had a % of 99.

North this year won 3 games and had a percentage of 63.

They could improve SIGNIFICANTLY and still finish 3rd-last next year. Especially playing home games in WA.

So they’ve likely traded pick 3 or 4 in the open draft for picks 27 and 25ish.
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They lost a lot of close games, Parker, Daniels in might help there. They only have to turn over half those silly losses like the Pies game to be 14th or so. That should be the minimum next year as a Roos fans. Anything more is a bonus.
 
If I was Richmond, I would've gone:
Pick 1: Sam Lalor
Pick 7: Alix Tauru
Pick 12: Joe Berry
Pick 14: Harrison Oliver
Pick 21: Jesse Dattoli
Pick 23: Harry Armstrong
Pick 27: Thomas Simms

See how it goes in 5 years.
 
Gotta love how the AFL are trying to smooth out their corruption by allowing the Dees access to Riak Andrew, a lowly rated prospect. As if fans are going to forget the straight up dog act by the AFL to lose us Mac Andrew. It wouldn't surprise me if the Dees pick up Riak Andrew only for a "The AFL has chosen to match the bid and give him to the Gold Coast, next pick remains at Melbourne, you're on the clock".

So sick of this corrupt and uneven comp and people like Laura Kane who's got no idea what she's doing. Yeah let's not change points system despite everyone knowing it's grossly unfair. Yeah let's not allow 2 years of future trading even though all the clubs and fans want it. She's so inept.
 

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LukeParkerno1 said:
So your strategy is sell pick 2 for rubbish, yeah no. You take the best talent, who should they have taken? Literally took the guy rated 1/2 on everyones board. The mistake may have been the overs they paid for Daniel but they got a solid contributor off HB hardly a shocker. They get back a pick in the 28-32 range next year via Richmond, meaning they have two picks in this range and they can trade or draft guys there.

North will improve too, bookies area laugh they are there to make money that's it. Should be out of the bottom 4, if they aren't sack the lot of the coaches and admin. It was time to make a move and this was perfect, they have picked what could be either the forward to help Larkey OR the defender, he can play either end
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The Daniel trade becomes a shocker the second the overpay to get M Whitlock at 27.
Two picks from where the Daniel pick would have been.

Either they believe they have the young talent required, and feel like its time to get senior plays to fill the gaps... or you still have gaps like the need for a young developing key back. it cannot be both.

If they stayed firm with the bulldogs, they could have selected M Whitlock at 29 tonight and then maybe a more ready type like bice at 64. There was always expected to be talls available at this range of the draft (Mraz, Barrat, M Whitlock). Their desire to use a F1 to get this player makes the decision to bring daniel in look disjointed and confused.
 
PeasFC said:
The Daniel trade becomes a shocker the second the overpay to get M Whitlock at 27.
Two picks from where the Daniel pick would have been.

Either they believe they have the young talent required, and feel like its time to get senior plays to fill the gaps... or you still have gaps like the need for a young developing key back. it cannot be both.

If they stayed firm with the bulldogs, they could have selected M Whitlock at 29 tonight and then maybe a more ready type like bice at 64. There was always expected to be talls available at this range of the draft (Mraz, Barrat, M Whitlock). Their desire to use a F1 to get this player makes the decision to bring daniel in look disjointed and confused.
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Yeah the Daniel trade looks abysmal right now. They’ve essentially traded what is likely to be a top 4 pick in the open draft next year for Daniel (who cost them about the same as M Whitlock) and a future mid-20’s pick.

That’s what giving up 24 for him has cost them. For a 28yo who spent half the year as sub, or in the VFL.
 
Nvent said:
Maybe they had Whitlock as a top 10 talent.
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Then looking at other pick trades that happened prior to the draft, they could have got a very juicy pick this year and split it, getting Whitlock and another highly rated prospect.

Yes it's all hindsight, but so is most draft/trade analysis.
 

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