List Mgmt. 2024 AFL Draft - November 20-21 (Picks 13, 29, 36, 50, 94, 112, 130)

[Ford Fairlane]

Thanks to Lore for this great resource

 

[Addy23]

No he's going to be there.

I will say it is bizarre but it's saying plenty about how even the draft is considered.

Those first 2 steps off the mark is the difference between Reid being pick 4 or pick 14. Coming around to the idea if Port pick him up.

Still think splitting the pick is the way to go and wouldn't be surprised if Reid being there gets us a very good deal.

If Reid is there and we split the pick I'd cry. If you really think about it, I'd say our 2 best ball users in the past decade were Gray and Houston. Neither had speed, would argue Reid is maybe quicker than Gray was too. We have plenty of speed around the park, we need players with great ball use. If Reid or Smilie don't fall to our pick, I'd try back 13 and bring up 29 o pick Hynes and Dattoli. But if either are there, we'd be silly to trade back imo

 

[240volt]

From the little I’ve seen Reid looks more like a footballer than an athlete.
We need footballers.

 

[wayb2912]

My preference of players

Smilie
Tauru
Reid
Shannahan
Armstrong
Dattoli
Hotton
Hynes
Whitlock

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[rogerjames]

This was your response to my claim that we are in a premiership window- and it’s a pile of pessimistic horseshit.

Whilst your retort is opinion, the facts indicate otherwise. Only Brisbane has a better win-loss ratio since 2020. Only Brisbane and Geelong have better percentage. In the last 4 years, there have been 4 different premiers- we have won more home-and-away games than 2 of them in the last 4 years (Collingwood, Geelong), the same as Melbourne and one less than Brisbane.

We have done that with a squad substantially younger than those 4 premiers. We had the youngest team in the 2024 finals and a number of our best players are 24 or younger- Rozee, Butters, Horne-Francis, Lukosius, Bergman and Georgiades. We have yet to see the best of young talented players like Jones, Sinn and Burgoyne.

Whilst these facts are taken from the home-and-away season, that is intentional and appropriate because it is the home-and-away season that determines whether we finish in the eight or not. Your 7th-15th prediction has no logical fact basis.

It is our poor recent finals record that is the only logical basis for claiming we are not in the premiership window. The very same record could have been leveled at Brisbane 12-24 months ago- they went out in straight sets in 2019 and 2021 (losing 3 home finals), they lost a home prelim in 2020 and an away prelim in 2022. Since then, they’ve made 2 GFs winning the second.

Your point about losing Houston just exposes the “glass half empty” attitude behind your opinion. We gained Lukosius and Richards. Butters finished third in the Brownlow and isn’t even our best clearance player by the stats- JHF at only 21 yo beat him.

All this supports my key point- we should have a mind to 2025 when we use #13.

Interesting info. And definitely a reasonable conclusion to draw. But I see a group of mentally soft players who just aren't hungry enough when it counts. Maybe they will evolve as you say.

 

[Addy23]

My preference of players

Smilie
Tauru
Reid
Shannahan
Armstrong
Dattoli
Hotton
Hynes
Whitlock

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I'd go

Tauru
Reid
Smilie
Shanahan
Hynes
Dattoli
Hotton
Gross
Hannaford

If the ones in bold aren't there then trade down

 

[Ah12]

We arent getting close to Smilie surely he is well gone by our pick.

 

[all seeing eye]

Not popular obviously with many here , but the safest bet to me at 13 remains x lindsay. Moving up the order in recent weeks and will probably be gone. Reid and him have the proven pedigree, elite juniors over many years , aa at u16 and u18, happy with either.

 

[Ford Fairlane]

PORT ADELAIDE

Luke Trainor (KEY DEF; Sandringham Dragons)

Port Adelaide holds Pick 13 — a selection it received from Collingwood (via Gold Coast) as part of the Dan Houston

5

Dan Houston

Age

27

Ht

186cm

Wt

88kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

18.2

5star

K

11.8

4star

HB

6.4

4star

M

4.9

5star

T

3.0

5star

MG

289.2

4star

D

17.6

4star

K

11.6

4star

HB

6.0

3star

M

3.3

3star

T

3.4

4star

MG

319.9

5star

D

16.6

4star

K

12.4

5star

HB

4.2

4star

M

7.0

5star

T

2.6

4star

MG

279.8

5star

trade — and could yet deal it before or on draft night, but if it holds firm and makes a selection, Trainor is a more-than-solid developmental prospect in the back half. The key-position stopper averaged 19.8 disposals, 5.8 marks and 4.5 intercepts in four championships games for Vic Metro, and he shapes as an ideal long-term pillar in the back half, particularly considering the ongoing scrutinisation of the club’s tall defenders. If mid-sized backman Tobie Travaglia was still available at this slot — which seems more unlikely than not — he would surely also be a consideration for a team that just lost a dual All-Australian rebounder.

 

[PortVic]

Not popular obviously with many here , but the safest bet to me at 13 remains x lindsay. Moving up the order in recent weeks and will probably be gone. Reid and him have the proven pedigree, elite juniors over many years , aa at u16 and u18, happy with either.

Yep I hadn’t given him much thought weeks ago. But i am really warming too him. I think our supporters read the descriptions of him and think Josh Sinn.

 

[Macca19]

Of my top 15, I'd say Ashcroft, Smilie, Draper, Smith, Lalor, Amrstong, O'Sullivan, Lombard, Marshall and Tauru will be 100% off the board.

That leaves my preference with pick 13 as:
1. Allan
2. Hotton
3. Shanahan
4. Reid
5. Trainor

 

[Willsy10]

Of my top 15, I'd say Ashcroft, Smilie, Draper, Smith, Lalor, Amrstong, O'Sullivan, Lombard, Marshall and Tauru will be 100% off the board.

That leaves my preference with pick 13 as:
1. Allan
2. Hotton
3. Shanahan
4. Reid
5. Trainor

No Langford or Travalgia?

 

[Macca19]

No Langford or Travalgia?

Neither are in my top 15. I've got Trevaglia 17th and Langford 21st

 

[Ford Fairlane]

Of my top 15, I'd say Ashcroft, Smilie, Draper, Smith, Lalor, Amrstong, O'Sullivan, Lombard, Marshall and Tauru will be 100% off the board.

That leaves my preference with pick 13 as:
1. Allan
2. Hotton
3. Shanahan
4. Reid
5. Trainor

Weren't you trying to warm to Berry? Just not going to happen is it?

 

[all seeing eye]

Travalgia, Allan and Hotton, as a group they are all considered poorer disposers by foot.

 

[Macca19]

Weren't you trying to warm to Berry? Just not going to happen is it?

He's down my list but I wont be upset if we pick him. I can see why we'd pick him.

 

[all seeing eye]

Interesting take from main board from another punter.
Port Adelaide -

16. Josh Smillie 18, 194cm - midfielder/utility - Eastern Ranges
31. Kayle Gerreyn 18, 199cm - ruck/forward - West Perth
36. Christian Moraes 18, 182cm - wingman - Eastern Ranges
45. Charlie Nicholls 18, 197cm - tall forward - Central Districts
82. Harry Charleson 18, 182cm - small defender - GWV Rebels

Smillie would is a great slider pick here for the Power and certainly a contrast for their midfield. He could easily go at Pick 3 without surprising, but as a I worked my way through and you have player v player discussions, other options seemed to win out. He's got a bit of David Mundy

16

David Mundy

Age

39

Ht

192cm

Wt

92kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

23.1

5star

K

11.2

4star

HB

11.8

5star

M

3.6

4star

T

4.3

5star

CL

5.1

5star

D

15.7

4star

K

6.7

3star

HB

9.0

4star

M

2.3

2star

T

2.7

4star

CL

3.7

5star

D

27.8

5star

K

15.4

5star

HB

12.4

5star

M

5.8

5star

T

6.2

5star

CL

7.2

5star

about him and if he can nuance his way around AFL players like he does juniors he will likely end up the best player from the pool. Gerreyn is a big backsided forward/ruck who has had a very productive season and could likely play straightaway for the Power as its back up ruckman/third tall forward. He will add an extra dimension to Port's big man stocks and help cover for the loss of Charlie Dixon. Moraes is a hard-running wingman and the long-term replacement for Travis Boak

10

Travis Boak

Age

36

Ht

183cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

23.7

5star

K

11.6

4star

HB

12.0

5star

M

3.7

4star

T

4.4

5star

CL

4.6

5star

D

22.0

5star

K

11.0

4star

HB

11.0

5star

M

2.4

3star

T

4.4

5star

CL

4.9

5star

D

16.4

4star

K

7.4

3star

HB

9.0

5star

M

5.4

5star

T

2.4

4star

. He could easily go much higher. As could small defender Harry Charleson, who links up with his brother Lachlan at Alberton and has shown an ability to stand up in pressure cooker situations through his top age year. Charlie Nicholls is a South Australian 197cm key position prospect who can play at both ends, either as a matchup key defender or a rangy, ground covering key forward - he has the raw tools to be a good long term prospect.

 

[Macca19]

That would be a great draft haul

 

[Ford Fairlane]

That is a really well thought through phantom draft. As I said in the thread, I would be astonished to see Smillie fall that far but their reasoning is credible. Just goes to show even if it's not Smillie, there will be a talent available at our pick.

Phantom Draft - Goodoil's Phantom Draft

My mock draft, been doing these for 25 years or so on other platforms. This year extremely tough with such a deep even pool. There will be quite a few trades and Richmond's haul like never before makes things certainly very interesting. I think more picks will be taken than thought. A lot of...

www.bigfooty.com

 

[philthy05]

Of my top 15, I'd say Ashcroft, Smilie, Draper, Smith, Lalor, Amrstong, O'Sullivan, Lombard, Marshall and Tauru will be 100% off the board.

That leaves my preference with pick 13 as:
1. Allan
2. Hotton
3. Shanahan
4. Reid
5. Trainor

I would be happy with most of those names. I’m coming around to Allan, if his floor is strong and fast defensive halfback that sounds pretty safe.

I don’t know shanahan but youve got to keep adding kfs where you can.

Trainor to be seems like a very safe bet.

Can intercept mark, find a lot of the pill, reportedly a very good kick? Sounds pretty damn good.

How do you rate trainors kicking Macca?

 

[Macca19]

Yeah there's nothing wrong with Trainors kicking

 

[VineValerian]

I want Floyd " Pink" Burmeister.

Floyd Burmeister - sounds like the the name of a 1950's American soda jerk in a TV sit com

 

[Port2Power]

Interesting take from main board from another punter.
Port Adelaide -

16. Josh Smillie 18, 194cm - midfielder/utility - Eastern Ranges
31. Kayle Gerreyn 18, 199cm - ruck/forward - West Perth
36. Christian Moraes 18, 182cm - wingman - Eastern Ranges
45. Charlie Nicholls 18, 197cm - tall forward - Central Districts
82. Harry Charleson 18, 182cm - small defender - GWV Rebels

Smillie would is a great slider pick here for the Power and certainly a contrast for their midfield. He could easily go at Pick 3 without surprising, but as a I worked my way through and you have player v player discussions, other options seemed to win out. He's got a bit of David Mundy about him and if he can nuance his way around AFL players like he does juniors he will likely end up the best player from the pool. Gerreyn is a big backsided forward/ruck who has had a very productive season and could likely play straightaway for the Power as its back up ruckman/third tall forward. He will add an extra dimension to Port's big man stocks and help cover for the loss of Charlie Dixon. Moraes is a hard-running wingman and the long-term replacement for Travis Boak. He could easily go much higher. As could small defender Harry Charleson, who links up with his brother Lachlan at Alberton and has shown an ability to stand up in pressure cooker situations through his top age year. Charlie Nicholls is a South Australian 197cm key position prospect who can play at both ends, either as a matchup key defender or a rangy, ground covering key forward - he has the raw tools to be a good long term prospect.

Instead of Nicholls if we get Charlie West with Pick 45 can play both ends of the ground and great at contested marking I'd be happy with that.

 

[Wargreymon90]

Smilie sliding that far would be ridiculous

 

[Brian McGee]

Would be so happy with that draft haul. I said it in his thread but swap out Moraes for Hannaford and we have covered every base we need to.

 

[Holden Hillbilly]

This year’s National Draft is touted as one of the best in recent years and with that comes some potential gems in the third and fourth rounds.
Vic Metro coach Rob Harding has named midfielder Luke Kennedy as potentially one of those late-draft players who could rise up the rankings in re-drafts down the line.

The 181cm Sandringham Dragons midfielder is rated as being able to kick on both feet, clean hands and a two-way endurance runner.
SEN’s 2024 Phantom Draft has him falling to GWS at pick 63 and Harding is bullish about what he could become at AFL level.
“I will have to go into my own region (to answer this), but I have a player at the Dragons named Luke Kennedy who played senior footy as a 15-year-old, won the best and fairest in the seniors as a 16-year-old and just happened to be in a year where the top midfielders were Levi Ashcroft, Jagga Smith, Josh Smillie, Murphy Reid – they were probably preordained from 12-18 months ago,” Harding told SEN’s Sportsday.
“Luke has just played consistently great footy over the last two years. He was in the Vic Metro train-on squad that we had. Didn’t get a game unfortunately, but he has gone up against these top-end draft picks and done a really good job against them.
“He’s a classic six-foot midfielder who is clean on both sides. He’s going to get picked in the 40s or 50s, I think, and he’s going to end up being a really good player.

The sleeper in this year's AFL Draft who could be a gun midfielder down the road

“He’s going to get picked in the 40s or 50s I think and he’s going to end up being a really good player.”

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