Player Watch 2024 AFL Draft Thread

[chopflop]

I have really enjoyed not having to follow the draft this year. #Hokball
Go hawks

 

[birch]

That table shows exactly why Gerreyn would be such a good get. Strengths in power, athleticism and contested marking are key. Tank can be developed, decision making can be taught.

You’d think so, but one of the big disappointments with DGB was his inability to get his tank to AFL standard over many preseasons.
Agreed though, would take those positives over an under developed tank

 

[Philhawk]

Hope Jonty Faulls to us tonight.

 

[unitedhawk]

Hope Jonty Faulls to us tonight.

Might have to wait until tomorrow night - unless we climb up the draft ladder to 'NAB' him before he Faulls to another club.

 

[CaptainWorpedo]

Would not be at all upset if we traded out of this draft and had a strong hand in 2025 (A must keep).


I always thought Arlo Draper was very unlucky at the pies, whom took our long over Draper in the end ( not directly).

If Mitchell and Co thinks Arlo can add to our Hokball go for it! Let’s take a swing at the stumps.

You’d imagine Arlo would be AFL ready physically.


Anderson and Draper sounds alright to me. Go Hawkas!

 

[hawkinoz]

Would not be at all upset if we traded out of this draft and had a strong hand in 2025 (A must keep).

After going through most combinations, I too feel the same.

I am happy to trade out pick 33 for a F2 + XX as well, our list is well balanced and we may be happy to pick late this yr. If we have 2 F2's we can trade up to one of Suns F1 next yr as well. Draft points are limited from next yr.

Cats F2+45 for our 33 would be a decent trade. Hopefully we can add more.

I am actually convinced now on why Cal reckons a Levi bid comes only at pick 5. I feel there is understanding with both North and Blues for Lions pick 27 & 34 to be nabbed. May be dependant on if Roos are trading pick 2 or not and to whom.

Maybe pick 27 is marked for North F2( if it is available and not traded). Pick 34 may be taken by Blues for 38 + one or more 60's picks.

If Roos get Pick 27, Gerryn will get picked there before Freo has a chance. Seems like Gerryn has achieved mythical status on Roos board.

PS : the Arlo contact may well be to persuade him to play for BoxHill with chance at MSD and to also start the work on establishing contacts with Sid.

 

[HawthornHawk]

LATE MAIL PHANTOM DRAFT
1) Richmond – Sam Lalor
2) North Melbourne – Finn O'Sullivan
3) Carlton – Jagga Smith
4) Adelaide – Sid Draper
5) Brisbane – Levi Ashcroft (matching Melbourne's bid)
6) Melbourne – Harvey Langford
7) Richmond – Josh Smillie
8) St Kilda – Tobie Travaglia
9) Gold Coast – Leo Lombard (matching St Kilda's bid)
10) Essendon – Isaac Kako (matching St Kilda's bid)
11) St Kilda – Alix Tauru

Will be hilarious if none of the top mids fall to St Kilda and they are forced to take two defenders. I thought losing Battle meant loading up with much needed gun mids at the draft?

 

[PenAndPaper]

Would not be at all upset if we traded out of this draft and had a strong hand in 2025 (A must keep).


I always thought Arlo Draper was very unlucky at the pies, whom took our long over Draper in the end ( not directly).

If Mitchell and Co thinks Arlo can add to our Hokball go for it! Let’s take a swing at the stumps.

You’d imagine Arlo would be AFL ready physically.


Anderson and Draper sounds alright to me. Go Hawkas!

Arlo really struggling in the SANFL though, unfortunately just think he hasn't been cut out for AFL footy despite his u18s form

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

What a joke this is.

 

[Sturty]

What a joke this is.

What a farce.

 

[kirbatron]

not surprised happened with diacos... it's a more open field too

 

[hardway]

What a joke this is.

When will AFL clubs works out that where possible you don’t give opponents a advantage on you?

 

[Yardie]

When will AFL clubs works out that where possible you don’t give opponents a advantage on you?

I think the problem, for the first pick, lies with the bonus money the player. But after that it's pretty dumb.

 

[I got the outside word]

When will AFL clubs works out that where possible you don’t give opponents an advantage on you?

They just keep doing things the hardway!

Teams should be made to pay, they just won a premiership too.

 

[SSSSSS]

Arlo Draper was a massive slider from memory in 2021.

A lot of phantoms had him as a first round prospect.

Didn't have much luck with injury at the Pies. The talent is there.

 

[cryptor]

When will AFL clubs works out that where possible you don’t give opponents a advantage on you?

Game theory.

Yes, you want to minimize your opponent's advantage but in this scenario there are 17 opponents and any of the other 16 (realistically a lot less due to draft order) that can also perform the action required to reduce the advantage.

The main cost of performing the action yourself is that you then open yourself to be the target of retaliation in the future. Plus other secondary concerns around starting salaries and demonstrating to the player you will end up with that you don't rate the player you have no chance of actually drafting above them (even if you really do).

With such an even distribution of talent this year it makes sense that the bid won't come super early. But I still wouldn't expect him to slide too far. Clubs know Brisbane have prepared themselves to match any bid and the amount they need to pay drops off very quickly after the first couple picks.

 

[Ashman23]

Game theory.

Yes, you want to minimize your opponent's advantage but in this scenario there are 17 opponents and any of the other 16 (realistically a lot less due to draft order) that can also perform the action required to reduce the advantage.

The main cost of performing the action yourself is that you then open yourself to be the target of retaliation in the future. Plus other secondary concerns around starting salaries and demonstrating to the player you will end up with that you don't rate the player you have no chance of actually drafting above them (even if you really do).

With such an even distribution of talent this year it makes sense that the bid won't come super early. But I still wouldn't expect him to slide too far. Clubs know Brisbane have prepared themselves to match any bid and the amount they need to pay drops off very quickly after the first couple picks.

I understand what you've said.

It's kind of like all that good will we developed by being easy to trade with. /s

If I was in Richmond's shoes, I'd be calling Levi's name.

 

[cryptor]

I understand what you've said.

It's kind of like all that good will we developed by being easy to trade with. /s

If I was in Richmond's shoes, I'd be calling Levi's name.

I would too. And I'd think the same thing if it were Hawthorn with pick 1.

But it's always easier to make these types of decisions from the outside. The consequences of these decisions obviously impact list managers more complexly. And there's likely other factors at play that we aren't privy to either.

 

[hawkinoz]

You guys are missing the point made earlier & will have to wait to see if Draft pans out as I stated here

I am actually convinced now on why Cal reckons a Levi bid comes only at pick 5. I feel there is understanding with both North and Blues for Lions pick 27 & 34 to be nabbed. May be dependant on if Roos are trading pick 2 or not and to whom.

Maybe pick 27 is marked for North F2( if it is available and not traded). Pick 34 may be taken by Blues for 38 + one or more 60's picks.

If Roos get Pick 27, Gerryn will get picked there before Freo has a chance. Seems like Gerryn has achieved mythical status on Roos board.

PS : the Arlo contact may well be to persuade him to play for BoxHill with chance at MSD and to also start the work on establishing contacts with Sid.

Roos & Blues are not bidding since they will trade for Lions pics. Their list managers are switched on and extracting every benefit.

Simple game theory at play.

Why won't Crows bid though? Maybe they will get Roos pick 2 for 4+F3's and part of deal is to not make Levi bid.

PS : seems like Trades can be made even after Levi is bid on. Thought that wasn't allowed but seems like it is.

 

[DrAbs]

Surely Roughy handing over the guernsey means our first pick is a KPF.



ESPN have us taking Sims in their final phantom draft.

But I do wonder if we consider trading back for an early 3rd + F2 if he's not there at 33.

 

[MazHawk]

Surely Roughy handing over the guernsey means our first pick is a KPF.

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ESPN have us taking Sims in their final phantom draft.

But I do wonder if we consider trading back for an early 3rd + F2 if he's not there at 33.

Is tall, a booming kick and strong hands.

So has Jasper Scaife and he's not that hot-and-cold either.

We need someone who wont just stand in the square.
"Gerreyn is light on his feet, an excellent ball user, and is already well developed physically."
He's also a good kick and mark, all in all a much better option of the two.

 

[hfc70]

Pick 33 - Hawks get their man

(Can’t believe he was still there)

 

[The Golden Glenferrie]

Pick 33 - Hawks get their man

(Can’t believe he was still there)

Future captain. 200 game player.

 

[Davo-27]

Had posted below SS of another poster's take on draft talent, others can say if this is accurate. Davo-27 can you help.

Line 40 says Contested game is weakness.

If we trade down as Cal says then he is a likely target if we have done the work on him.

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Pies fan review of Stumpf

talls in our area of the draft

Jonty Faull (195cm) GWV - ended last season on fire kicking bags of goals for fun and was touted to go high, but injury like so many halted his claims as a high pick, came back halfway through the year to play 11 games for GWV at 2.5 goals a game, kicking 5 in a prelim to get them over a strong Oakleigh side who got over their early season mess, loved his game for VC u17s game, has a knack of fighting for every contest and kicking bags, i hope we get him tbh

Tom Sims (199cm) Northern - a strongly contested player, think Casboult or Treacy, averages about 1.5 goals a game, plays as a part time ruck, kindve like Chol, really good hands in the contest marking wise, decent agility but lowish speed for a big man, the reason he is at our pick is lack of goals and speed, if he was a 2 goal a game type he goes top 20 imo

Gabriel Stumpf (196cm) Northern - is a very athletic type most of his marks are on a lead where he can get separation with his elite speed, started the year slowly goal wise, but picked it up to end at 1.5 goals per game, had 2 games for 1 goal for VM without having a big game

Charlie Nicholls (197cm) Central Dist - KPF averages 2 goals a game at sanfl u18s which is a lower tier comp, 2 goals in sanfl u18s is like a bit over 1 per game at CTL footy tbh, what i noticed about him at the champs is he is a lovely mark, can take a contested mark too, but his goal kicking is horrid, moves well is an option and MM has been in SA recently so i would guess he is an option at our pick?

Floyd Burmeister (198cm) GWV - a player i have liked the look of, could be a smokey chance as a rookie? moves well, good mark, can play a bit of ruck, versatile project type? only 1 goal a game at CTL but played in multiple positions.

 

[Davo-27]

Arlo really struggling in the SANFL though, unfortunately just think he hasn't been cut out for AFL footy despite his u18s form

i wasnt a fan, Arlo Draper seemed ordinary, never got his hype tbh... people were pushing him to go in the top 10, i tried my best to rate him low and influence others to not rate him so high...